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LeCuch wrote:

Logi Bro wrote:

LeCuch wrote:

Void Echo wrote:

Logi Bro wrote:

I hear Madrugars will still be in the game next build....

the madrugars and gunnlogis will still be here, the marauders are being replaced by expensive militia versions that will be almost completely useless

Plus this forces everyone to be an armor tank because
A: New weapon against shield
B: Madrugar vs. Gunloggi the Madrugar will always win
C: Armor is cheaper to spec into, cheaper to use, and wins tank fights

Got to disagree.

A: There is also a weapon for armor, called swarms, they are super-effective against armor.
B: No, no....no.
C: Cheaper to spec into maybe, cheaper to use no, and does not also win all tank fights.

Dude. If you go Blaster vs. Blaster on a fully fit gunnlogi and madrugar, the madrugar will win. I've looked at every possible option for shield tanks to win, and pretty much head on they just don't. Armor swallows the bullets and the shield cant take as many hits.
Same with railgun on railgun, fully fit rail madrugar and fully fit gunnlogi with railguns the madrugar will take usually 3-4 hits and the gunnlogi will die after the 2nd, and if not, then the 3rd. Armor wins again there.
Missle vs. Missle, i have no idea, even though i use missles, i have never had a shield missle against an armor missle tank fight. I think this is the only scenario where a shield tank would beat the armor counterpart.

And swarms hurt yeah. So do AV Nades. But a proto swarm only does so much damage and shoot so fast. A Gastuns BNR Forge gun? They shoot off every like 1.2 seconds, and hit for insane amounts of damage. My Surya got killed by one the other day, took 5 shots of it, he was the only guy hitting me, even though its a shield weapon, it still hurts quite bad.

Cmon other tank drivers, you know that the best fit of a Madrugar blaster vs the best fit of a Gunnlogi blaster, the gunnlogi can't win. Surya vs. Sagaris, is a bit different. But hey they are removing those and replacing them with a crap version, so we're screwed over anyways

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Void Echo Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 65	Posted - 2013.05.02 21:34:00 - [1] - Quote Hi, I'm Void Echo, you may know about me through the forums for being a tank driver and killing almost everything in sight. I'm here to say that I might NOT be skilling up into HAVs this build, I just saw the stats of the tanks in Uprising and basically, they are worse than the militia tanks, and what doesn't make any sense at all is that they cost up to 1.5 million ISK. I don't know about the rest of my fellow tank drivers out there but I'm greatly disappointed in CCP for a few reasons: 1. They only listen to assault players that constantly whine "OP" in this game, 2. They put MORE AV weapons into Dust514 and completely nerfed HAVs to total uselessness, 3. CCP has become the assaulters' ***es in the fact that they have removed the want to become an HAV driver because the assaulters constantly complained that a 50 ton machine was killing human sized bodies in 1-25 shots while they couldn't kill us with their assault riffles, sniper riffles, smgs, hmgs and anything else that assaulters use. I am stating here publically on the forums in front of the Dust 514 community and CCP that I might refuse to skill up into HAVs now until they are revived in the next build or brought back to their former glory before Open Beta. I'm deeply saddened and disappointed that I have been forced to consider abandoning tanks and skill up into an infantry class now..... The cost of the new tanks is WAY TOO much for it to be THAT WEAK, they are now complete glass cannons thanks to the whiny assaulters crying "OP" constantly. And what is worse is that they added MORE AV equipment that does way too much damage according to their stats, why CCP, why? The ONLY way I will remain a Tank Driver is if they don't alter any of the stats for the Madrugar or Gunnlogi and or they bring back the Surya and Sagaris. If things happen the way they appear to be, I will no longer have a reason to drive tanks therefore I will either skill up into the Gallente Assault class or the Gallente Fighter when they are put into the game. Thank you Assault players of Dust 514, you have won Uprising and made this game a little more like a COD game like you want, and thank you CCP for bending over and being the Assaulters' ***es, I will never buy a merc pack or aurum, the only way youl get money from me ever again will be for the UVTs. Thank you for your time, and Goodbye for now.
Jason Pearson Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 900	Posted - 2013.05.02 21:37:00 - [2] - Quote Sad truth. People telling us to "wait" for the notes, we already know CCP dropped the ball. CCP always ** up when it comes to Vehicles, heres another ** up that we'll just have to suffer through.. So, while that's going on... World of Tanks..?
Logi Bro Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 1262	Posted - 2013.05.02 21:39:00 - [3] - Quote I hear Madrugars will still be in the game next build....
Void Echo Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 66	Posted - 2013.05.02 21:41:00 - [4] - Quote Logi Bro wrote: I hear Madrugars will still be in the game next build.... the madrugars and gunnlogis will still be here, the marauders are being replaced by expensive militia versions that will be almost completely useless
Spademan The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 42	Posted - 2013.05.02 21:45:00 - [5] - Quote The point of the new enforcer class is long range and high damage. Now, I cant say how well that will or will not work out, but you guys still have your standard tanks, which in my opinion are fine. Takes a fair bit of work to take one down.
Elijah Sol' Dzusaki Onward Defrosted Tuna Team 565	Posted - 2013.05.02 21:45:00 - [6] - Quote This thread is disappointing, there is no mention of the game referenced in the title.
LeCuch Red Star. EoN. 15	Posted - 2013.05.02 21:46:00 - [7] - Quote Void Echo wrote: Logi Bro wrote: I hear Madrugars will still be in the game next build.... the madrugars and gunnlogis will still be here, the marauders are being replaced by expensive militia versions that will be almost completely useless Plus this forces everyone to be an armor tank because A: New weapon against shield B: Madrugar vs. Gunloggi the Madrugar will always win C: Armor is cheaper to spec into, cheaper to use, and wins tank fights
BobThe843CakeMan Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 240	Posted - 2013.05.02 21:47:00 - [8] - Quote LeCuch wrote: Void Echo wrote: Logi Bro wrote: I hear Madrugars will still be in the game next build.... the madrugars and gunnlogis will still be here, the marauders are being replaced by expensive militia versions that will be almost completely useless Plus this forces everyone to be an armor tank because A: New weapon against shield B: Madrugar vs. Gunloggi the Madrugar will always win C: Armor is cheaper to spec into, cheaper to use, and wins tank fights a) new weapon is garbage b) how tht work out for u last time we met c) armor is cheaper but does not win tank fights.
Void Echo Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 67	Posted - 2013.05.02 21:48:00 - [9] - Quote Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote: This thread is disappointing, there is no mention of the game referenced in the title. you want a reference? http://www.dust514-france.fr/2013/05/videocast-tour-dhorizon-des-menus-duprising.html here you go, enjoy..
Elijah Sol' Dzusaki Onward Defrosted Tuna Team 566	Posted - 2013.05.02 21:51:00 - [10] - Quote Void Echo wrote: you want a reference? I was making a joke about the title spelling Crysis rather than crisis.

Void Echo Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 67	Posted - 2013.05.02 21:53:00 - [11] - Quote Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote: Void Echo wrote: you want a reference? I was making a joke about the title spelling Crysis rather than crisis. oh, I don't have spellcheck, so yeah
Logi Bro Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 1262	Posted - 2013.05.02 21:54:00 - [12] - Quote LeCuch wrote: Void Echo wrote: Logi Bro wrote: I hear Madrugars will still be in the game next build.... the madrugars and gunnlogis will still be here, the marauders are being replaced by expensive militia versions that will be almost completely useless Plus this forces everyone to be an armor tank because A: New weapon against shield B: Madrugar vs. Gunloggi the Madrugar will always win C: Armor is cheaper to spec into, cheaper to use, and wins tank fights Got to disagree. A: There is also a weapon for armor, called swarms, they are super-effective against armor. B: No, no....no. C: Cheaper to spec into maybe, cheaper to use no, and does not also win all tank fights.
Caeli SineDeo Imperfects Negative-Feedback 413	Posted - 2013.05.02 21:56:00 - [13] - Quote Jason Pearson wrote: Sad truth. People telling us to "wait" for the notes, we already know CCP dropped the ball. CCP always ** up when it comes to Vehicles, heres another ** up that we'll just have to suffer through.. So, while that's going on... World of Tanks..? Add me Demon_Deus
Geth Massredux Defensores Doctrina 224	Posted - 2013.05.02 21:57:00 - [14] - Quote First of all Void- Good4You... Second- even though the new tanks cost as much as the marauder class tanks you will still get money. PC will bring isk to your corp meaning your CEO/ Directors can distribute isk to each an every one of their soldiers. Oh even the tankers. Especially the tankers since they are all for vehicular combat. Its like a paycheck... It really was supposed to happen but nobody knows about it - When your corp wins a Corp match why you think you dont get paid for it.. Your CEO has to pay you a nice hansom amount of isk I hope I changed your mind about not spec'ing into tanks.... Have a nice damn day...
Beld Errmon Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 586	Posted - 2013.05.02 22:00:00 - [15] - Quote Personally I'm just gunna wait and see how things turn out, I'm hoping there are some changes that balance out what we have seen so far.
Void Echo Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 67	Posted - 2013.05.02 22:09:00 - [16] - Quote Geth Massredux wrote: First of all Void- Good4You... Second- even though the new tanks cost as much as the marauder class tanks you will still get money. PC will bring isk to your corp meaning your CEO/ Directors can distribute isk to each an every one of their soldiers. Oh even the tankers. Especially the tankers since they are all for vehicular combat. Its like a paycheck... It really was supposed to happen but nobody knows about it - When your corp wins a Corp match why you think you dont get paid for it.. Your CEO has to pay you a nice hansom amount of isk I hope I changed your mind about not spec'ing into tanks.... Have a nice damn day... you haven't changed my mind, Iv never cared about payments from corp battles.
Jason Pearson Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 906	Posted - 2013.05.02 22:17:00 - [17] - Quote Geth Massredux wrote: First of all Void- Good4You... Second- even though the new tanks cost as much as the marauder class tanks you will still get money. PC will bring isk to your corp meaning your CEO/ Directors can distribute isk to each an every one of their soldiers. Oh even the tankers. Especially the tankers since they are all for vehicular combat. Its like a paycheck... It really was supposed to happen but nobody knows about it - When your corp wins a Corp match why you think you dont get paid for it.. Your CEO has to pay you a nice hansom amount of isk I hope I changed your mind about not spec'ing into tanks.... Have a nice damn day... If a CEO pays out for the pieces of **** we're running, they're either incredibly generous or rather stupid, who in their right mind pays for such a liability? We'd all be better off going Heavy, atleast it will require teamwork to take those out.
BOZ MR Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 102	Posted - 2013.05.02 22:21:00 - [18] - Quote Jason Pearson wrote: Geth Massredux wrote: First of all Void- Good4You... Second- even though the new tanks cost as much as the marauder class tanks you will still get money. PC will bring isk to your corp meaning your CEO/ Directors can distribute isk to each an every one of their soldiers. Oh even the tankers. Especially the tankers since they are all for vehicular combat. Its like a paycheck... It really was supposed to happen but nobody knows about it - When your corp wins a Corp match why you think you dont get paid for it.. Your CEO has to pay you a nice hansom amount of isk I hope I changed your mind about not spec'ing into tanks.... Have a nice damn day... If a CEO pays out for the pieces of **** we're running, they're either incredibly generous or rather stupid, who in their right mind pays for such a liability? We'd all be better off going Heavy, atleast it will require teamwork to take those out. QFT
Geth Massredux Defensores Doctrina 224	Posted - 2013.05.02 22:23:00 - [19] - Quote Apparently nobody gets what im trying to say. All I see it as is since you dont get jack squat for playing in corp battles, its up to your CEO to pay their players. Obviously
slypie11 Planetary Response Organisation 234	Posted - 2013.05.02 22:24:00 - [20] - Quote Has anyone thought that CCP might just be trolling us extremely hard? I doubt it, but it would be hilarious.

Jason Pearson Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 910	Posted - 2013.05.02 22:28:00 - [21] - Quote Geth Massredux wrote: Apparently nobody gets what im trying to say. All I see it as is since you dont get jack squat for playing in corp battles, its up to your CEO to pay their players. Obviously Actually, if you paid attention to the PC blogs, we will be getting paid, it's a hefty sum but a fraction of what it costs to run a tank. Again, why would anyone pay for something that can be solo'd easily and is only useful sniping from the redline? We already have Snipers for Infantry, they don't need a 2mil tank to do the job of a guy that costs 100k a time. Tankers will be an expensive asset with no role other than sniping. Completely useless.
Adiran Zanzalin DUST University Ivy League 0	Posted - 2013.05.02 22:30:00 - [22] - Quote Logi Bro wrote: LeCuch wrote: Void Echo wrote: Logi Bro wrote: I hear Madrugars will still be in the game next build.... the madrugars and gunnlogis will still be here, the marauders are being replaced by expensive militia versions that will be almost completely useless Plus this forces everyone to be an armor tank because A: New weapon against shield B: Madrugar vs. Gunloggi the Madrugar will always win C: Armor is cheaper to spec into, cheaper to use, and wins tank fights Got to disagree. A: There is also a weapon for armor, called swarms, they are super-effective against armor. B: No, no....no. C: Cheaper to spec into maybe, cheaper to use no, and does not also win all tank fights. Noob question but Madrugar? Gunloggi?
LeCuch Red Star. EoN. 17	Posted - 2013.05.02 22:31:00 - [23] - Quote Logi Bro wrote: LeCuch wrote: Void Echo wrote: Logi Bro wrote: I hear Madrugars will still be in the game next build.... the madrugars and gunnlogis will still be here, the marauders are being replaced by expensive militia versions that will be almost completely useless Plus this forces everyone to be an armor tank because A: New weapon against shield B: Madrugar vs. Gunloggi the Madrugar will always win C: Armor is cheaper to spec into, cheaper to use, and wins tank fights Got to disagree. A: There is also a weapon for armor, called swarms, they are super-effective against armor. B: No, no....no. C: Cheaper to spec into maybe, cheaper to use no, and does not also win all tank fights. Dude. If you go Blaster vs. Blaster on a fully fit gunnlogi and madrugar, the madrugar will win. I've looked at every possible option for shield tanks to win, and pretty much head on they just don't. Armor swallows the bullets and the shield cant take as many hits. Same with railgun on railgun, fully fit rail madrugar and fully fit gunnlogi with railguns the madrugar will take usually 3-4 hits and the gunnlogi will die after the 2nd, and if not, then the 3rd. Armor wins again there. Missle vs. Missle, i have no idea, even though i use missles, i have never had a shield missle against an armor missle tank fight. I think this is the only scenario where a shield tank would beat the armor counterpart. And swarms hurt yeah. So do AV Nades. But a proto swarm only does so much damage and shoot so fast. A Gastuns BNR Forge gun? They shoot off every like 1.2 seconds, and hit for insane amounts of damage. My Surya got killed by one the other day, took 5 shots of it, he was the only guy hitting me, even though its a shield weapon, it still hurts quite bad. Cmon other tank drivers, you know that the best fit of a Madrugar blaster vs the best fit of a Gunnlogi blaster, the gunnlogi can't win. Surya vs. Sagaris, is a bit different. But hey they are removing those and replacing them with a crap version, so we're screwed over anyways
BobThe843CakeMan Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 240	Posted - 2013.05.02 22:33:00 - [24] - Quote LeCuch wrote: Logi Bro wrote: LeCuch wrote: Void Echo wrote: Logi Bro wrote: I hear Madrugars will still be in the game next build.... the madrugars and gunnlogis will still be here, the marauders are being replaced by expensive militia versions that will be almost completely useless Plus this forces everyone to be an armor tank because A: New weapon against shield B: Madrugar vs. Gunloggi the Madrugar will always win C: Armor is cheaper to spec into, cheaper to use, and wins tank fights Got to disagree. A: There is also a weapon for armor, called swarms, they are super-effective against armor. B: No, no....no. C: Cheaper to spec into maybe, cheaper to use no, and does not also win all tank fights. Dude. If you go Blaster vs. Blaster on a fully fit gunnlogi and madrugar, the madrugar will win. I've looked at every possible option for shield tanks to win, and pretty much head on they just don't. Armor swallows the bullets and the shield cant take as many hits. Same with railgun on railgun, fully fit rail madrugar and fully fit gunnlogi with railguns the madrugar will take usually 3-4 hits and the gunnlogi will die after the 2nd, and if not, then the 3rd. Armor wins again there. Missle vs. Missle, i have no idea, even though i use missles, i have never had a shield missle against an armor missle tank fight. I think this is the only scenario where a shield tank would beat the armor counterpart. And swarms hurt yeah. So do AV Nades. But a proto swarm only does so much damage and shoot so fast. A Gastuns BNR Forge gun? They shoot off every like 1.2 seconds, and hit for insane amounts of damage. My Surya got killed by one the other day, took 5 shots of it, he was the only guy hitting me, even though its a shield weapon, it still hurts quite bad. Cmon other tank drivers, you know that the best fit of a Madrugar blaster vs the best fit of a Gunnlogi blaster, the gunnlogi can't win. Surya vs. Sagaris, is a bit different. But hey they are removing those and replacing them with a crap version, so we're screwed over anyways stop comparing tanks with blasters. fine armor tank rail vs shield tank rail = shield tank win any day.
Otavio Martins The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 20	Posted - 2013.05.02 22:41:00 - [25] - Quote well i am an assaulter but my hobby, proffesion and love are tanks! i dont know wtf those other assaulters are complaining about, i once won a match were the enemy had two tanks and the only thing that i needed is: stay out of sight and range or AV BS cause a tank is slow almost blind fat thing and its more for open places. so if u know how to, u can do! TANKS FOREVER! p.s.: im good with the blaster canon against inf and the railgun against other veicles.
BatKing Deltor Tank Bros. DARKSTAR ARMY 15	Posted - 2013.05.02 22:56:00 - [26] - Quote Geth Massredux wrote: Apparently nobody gets what im trying to say. All I see it as is since you dont get jack squat for playing in corp battles, its up to your CEO to pay their players. Obviously My future plans is to help out to recover losses from PC battles whether it's a win or loss, depending how much isk is in the corp wallet depends how much though but I would like to do the most I can. For pc only, Regular matches my members will have to make that up themselves... When I have time to do more recruiting that is... I'm also thinking of corp pay days, not totally done on the whole details yet.
Void Echo Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 67	Posted - 2013.05.02 22:57:00 - [27] - Quote all that there will probably be will be infantry now due to CCP being the assaulters' *****es
BatKing Deltor Tank Bros. DARKSTAR ARMY 15	Posted - 2013.05.02 23:01:00 - [28] - Quote Jason Pearson wrote: Geth Massredux wrote: Apparently nobody gets what im trying to say. All I see it as is since you dont get jack squat for playing in corp battles, its up to your CEO to pay their players. Obviously Actually, if you paid attention to the PC blogs, we will be getting paid, it's a hefty sum but a fraction of what it costs to run a tank. Again, why would anyone pay for something that can be solo'd easily and is only useful sniping from the redline? We already have Snipers for Infantry, they don't need a 2mil tank to do the job of a guy that costs 100k a time. Tankers will be an expensive asset with no role other than sniping. Completely useless. If its only red lining then it would be better to just use a militia with a rail, no need to max out a tank your not taking into the center of a fight.
Galthur CrimeWave Syndicate 38	Posted - 2013.05.02 23:08:00 - [29] - Quote Hey void keep in mind CCP is testing various vehicle alternation in equivalence to say Tactical and Burst AR's, in addition to that they still have to add ALL racial vehicles, suits, weapons, even AV weapons Plasma Cannon (which is actually weak compared to current AV, it's a more Anti-Infantry AV weapon) which isn't going to mean more AV people just divides up the current people. It is stupid they removed old proto tanks but CCP will likely bring them back with time and did this to encourage usage of the new tanks. Also are you forgetting they're removing UVT's from the game?
Jason Pearson Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 912	Posted - 2013.05.02 23:12:00 - [30] - Quote BatKing Deltor wrote: Jason Pearson wrote: Geth Massredux wrote: Apparently nobody gets what im trying to say. All I see it as is since you dont get jack squat for playing in corp battles, its up to your CEO to pay their players. Obviously Actually, if you paid attention to the PC blogs, we will be getting paid, it's a hefty sum but a fraction of what it costs to run a tank. Again, why would anyone pay for something that can be solo'd easily and is only useful sniping from the redline? We already have Snipers for Infantry, they don't need a 2mil tank to do the job of a guy that costs 100k a time. Tankers will be an expensive asset with no role other than sniping. Completely useless. If its only red lining then it would be better to just use a militia with a rail, no need to max out a tank your not taking into the center of a fight. Nah, need to keep my ability to 1shot other tanks, more damage mods are needed.



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