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Reiki Jubo Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 104	Posted - 2013.04.30 02:14:00 - [1] - Quote its just a question, what do you think? it just seems weird because we're these mercs with armor and shields who can take half a clip from plasma rfles. it also really doesnt matter how fast im going if I make impact with someone they die. should it be autodeath or is that bad gameplay?
Anmol Singh The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 47	Posted - 2013.04.30 02:18:00 - [2] - Quote yes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5AqupZY2aE
Scramble Scrub Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 80	Posted - 2013.04.30 02:21:00 - [3] - Quote Dust magic
Kirin Torch L.O.T.I.S. 5	Posted - 2013.04.30 02:26:00 - [4] - Quote It would better if the LAV blew up if it had less health then me on impact lol
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 1120	Posted - 2013.04.30 02:27:00 - [5] - Quote That suit won't save you from getting your internal organs crushed bro. And it's not a 1HKO at any speed, you must at least be going at 5mph
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 199	Posted - 2013.04.30 02:28:00 - [6] - Quote Who takes half a clip from a plasma rifle? With all the damage mods, I usually go down in 4 bullets.
Zion Shad ZionTCD Unclaimed. 1717	Posted - 2013.04.30 02:31:00 - [7] - Quote My Saga has 2800 HP in shields and can take a forge hit plus still run over the shooter. What kills me though is packed AV nades
Tolen Rosas Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 115	Posted - 2013.04.30 02:35:00 - [8] - Quote Not if the tank isnt a OHK.
Aqua-Regia Ahrendee Mercenaries 48	Posted - 2013.04.30 02:42:00 - [9] - Quote no, it a mmo'fps' hav & lav + dp can get bent!
Bojo The Mighty Bojo's School of the Trades 992	Posted - 2013.04.30 02:47:00 - [10] - Quote I thought you were talking about how Militia LAVs only take one hit to destroy If you are dumb enough to get run over at a slow speed you deserve that death. If you didn't look twice before crossing that road you deserve to die. If you decided to bring the Stay-Puft Marshmallow suit out to use an HMG, you deserve to be roadkill. If you create a show of golden sparks and get stuck in my axle, you sure are dead.

Heathen Bastard Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 229	Posted - 2013.04.30 02:56:00 - [11] - Quote uh yeah, I rarely hit anyone with it at less than 20-30 mph. remember, the shields you have are for stopping a bullet, not a car. significant differences there, a bullet makes a little hole, a car crushes your bones and organs.
Osiris Ausare TeamPlayers EoN. 50	Posted - 2013.04.30 03:19:00 - [12] - Quote I think it's fine, the LAV is another tool of war and if it's out on the field it can be used to run over mercs. Honestly, I think it's fun trying jump out of the way, and laugh when the LAV blows up from an AV grenade. If a player wants to bring out a murder taxi, then let them. Now if it were indestructible that would be a problem, but being able to run over mercs is fine.
DJINN Marauder Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 497	Posted - 2013.04.30 03:21:00 - [13] - Quote I think heavies should be able to take a hit from LAVs but that's just me...
SickJ French unchained corporation Squale Operation Empire 57	Posted - 2013.04.30 03:23:00 - [14] - Quote A car packs a lot more force than a bullet.
Heathen Bastard Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 230	Posted - 2013.04.30 03:23:00 - [15] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: I think heavies should be able to take a hit from LAVs but that's just me... You already make me stop like I hit a post on impact. that's enough to get me killed sometimes, and you can even be picked up after being hit.
Washlee Not Guilty EoN. 142	Posted - 2013.04.30 03:25:00 - [16] - Quote Think of it this way , should you get another chance if you get hit by a car going 60mph
Crazed Capitalist Militaires Sans Jeux 4	Posted - 2013.04.30 03:28:00 - [17] - Quote Washlee wrote: Think of it this way , should you get another chance if you get hit by a car going 60mph Am I wearing a suit packed with shields and covered in armor?
Heathen Bastard Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 230	Posted - 2013.04.30 03:30:00 - [18] - Quote Crazed Capitalist wrote: Washlee wrote: Think of it this way , should you get another chance if you get hit by a car going 60mph Am I wearing a suit packed with shields and covered in armor? does that armor un-snap your spine, and un-shatter your ribs, and un-perforate your organs?
Crazed Capitalist Militaires Sans Jeux 4	Posted - 2013.04.30 03:32:00 - [19] - Quote Heathen Bastard wrote: Crazed Capitalist wrote: Washlee wrote: Think of it this way , should you get another chance if you get hit by a car going 60mph Am I wearing a suit packed with shields and covered in armor? does that armor un-snap your spine, and un-shatter your ribs, and un-perforate your organs? Possibly. A lot of factors would need to be taken into account.
SIRAJKNIGHT KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND Lokun Listamenn 61	Posted - 2013.04.30 03:34:00 - [20] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: I thought you were talking about how Militia LAVs only take one hit to destroy If you are dumb enough to get run over at a slow speed you deserve that death. If you didn't look twice before crossing that road you deserve to die.. got that right

Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 1121	Posted - 2013.04.30 03:37:00 - [21] - Quote Crazed Capitalist wrote: Heathen Bastard wrote: Crazed Capitalist wrote: Washlee wrote: Think of it this way , should you get another chance if you get hit by a car going 60mph Am I wearing a suit packed with shields and covered in armor? does that armor un-snap your spine, and un-shatter your ribs, and un-perforate your organs? Possibly. A lot of factors would need to be taken into account. Sorry, but your suit doesn't come with built in nanite injectors.
Crazed Capitalist Militaires Sans Jeux 4	Posted - 2013.04.30 03:38:00 - [22] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: Crazed Capitalist wrote: Heathen Bastard wrote: Crazed Capitalist wrote: Washlee wrote: Think of it this way , should you get another chance if you get hit by a car going 60mph Am I wearing a suit packed with shields and covered in armor? does that armor un-snap your spine, and un-shatter your ribs, and un-perforate your organs? Possibly. A lot of factors would need to be taken into account. Sorry, but your suit doesn't come with built in nanite injectors. Doesn't need to, my suit comes with built in high quality shields and a ton of armor, you're assuming a hit from a light vehicle would automatically mean death. Considering the amount of punishment some of these heavies can take I find that odd.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 1121	Posted - 2013.04.30 03:40:00 - [23] - Quote Crazed Capitalist wrote: Doesn't need to, my suit comes with built in high quality shields and a ton of armor, you're assuming a hit from a light vehicle would automatically mean death. Considering the amount of punishment some of these heavies can take I find that odd. I feel the need to point out that my elbow can hurt you
Crazed Capitalist Militaires Sans Jeux 4	Posted - 2013.04.30 03:43:00 - [24] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: Crazed Capitalist wrote: Doesn't need to, my suit comes with built in high quality shields and a ton of armor, you're assuming a hit from a light vehicle would automatically mean death. Considering the amount of punishment some of these heavies can take I find that odd. I feel the need to point out that my elbow can hurt you and I feel the need to point out that a grenade doesn't always kill. The elbow is quite obviously a game mechanic. Same reason why Mr. Halo dies to an elbow but somehow survives the **** he does.
Heathen Bastard Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 230	Posted - 2013.04.30 03:44:00 - [25] - Quote Crazed Capitalist wrote: Doesn't need to, my suit comes with built in high quality shields and a ton of armor, you're assuming a hit from a light vehicle would automatically mean death. Considering the amount of punishment some of these heavies can take I find that odd. again, your "high quality shields and a ton of armor" are meant for stopping bullets. my car is not a bullet. and a SINGLE 60mm Polycrystalline Plate is more health than everything that isn't a heavy. so you really don't have a ton of armor.
Crazed Capitalist Militaires Sans Jeux 4	Posted - 2013.04.30 03:45:00 - [26] - Quote Heathen Bastard wrote: Crazed Capitalist wrote: Doesn't need to, my suit comes with built in high quality shields and a ton of armor, you're assuming a hit from a light vehicle would automatically mean death. Considering the amount of punishment some of these heavies can take I find that odd. again, your "high quality shields and a ton of armor" are meant for stopping bullets. my car is not a bullet. and a SINGLE 60mm Polycrystalline Plate is more health than everything that isn't a heavy. so you really don't have a ton of armor. I have enough armor and shields to survive a slow moving car.
Heathen Bastard Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 230	Posted - 2013.04.30 03:48:00 - [27] - Quote Crazed Capitalist wrote: Heathen Bastard wrote: Crazed Capitalist wrote: Doesn't need to, my suit comes with built in high quality shields and a ton of armor, you're assuming a hit from a light vehicle would automatically mean death. Considering the amount of punishment some of these heavies can take I find that odd. again, your "high quality shields and a ton of armor" are meant for stopping bullets. my car is not a bullet. and a SINGLE 60mm Polycrystalline Plate is more health than everything that isn't a heavy. so you really don't have a ton of armor. I have enough armor and shields to survive a slow moving car. not really, as it still kills you. but continue to argue that you are stronger than 2 tons(guesstimating) of metal and lulz.
Crazed Capitalist Militaires Sans Jeux 4	Posted - 2013.04.30 03:50:00 - [28] - Quote Heathen Bastard wrote: Crazed Capitalist wrote: Heathen Bastard wrote: Crazed Capitalist wrote: Doesn't need to, my suit comes with built in high quality shields and a ton of armor, you're assuming a hit from a light vehicle would automatically mean death. Considering the amount of punishment some of these heavies can take I find that odd. again, your "high quality shields and a ton of armor" are meant for stopping bullets. my car is not a bullet. and a SINGLE 60mm Polycrystalline Plate is more health than everything that isn't a heavy. so you really don't have a ton of armor. I have enough armor and shields to survive a slow moving car. not really, as it still kills you. but continue to argue that you are stronger than 2 tons(guesstimating) of metal and lulz. So you're going to tell me a truck moving, let's say 10 mph, would kill someone as decked out as a heavy? You realize an unarmored human could survive that impact, right?
Schalac 17 Expert Intervention Caldari State 45	Posted - 2013.04.30 03:51:00 - [29] - Quote You should really be able to attach remote explosives to an LAV. CCP make it happen.
Heathen Bastard Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 234	Posted - 2013.04.30 03:54:00 - [30] - Quote Crazed Capitalist wrote: Heathen Bastard wrote: Crazed Capitalist wrote: Heathen Bastard wrote: Crazed Capitalist wrote: Doesn't need to, my suit comes with built in high quality shields and a ton of armor, you're assuming a hit from a light vehicle would automatically mean death. Considering the amount of punishment some of these heavies can take I find that odd. again, your "high quality shields and a ton of armor" are meant for stopping bullets. my car is not a bullet. and a SINGLE 60mm Polycrystalline Plate is more health than everything that isn't a heavy. so you really don't have a ton of armor. I have enough armor and shields to survive a slow moving car. not really, as it still kills you. but continue to argue that you are stronger than 2 tons(guesstimating) of metal and lulz. So you're going to tell me a truck moving, let's say 10 mph, would kill someone as decked out as a heavy? You realize an unarmored human could survive that impact, right? yes, it takes out your knee, you hit the floor, they come back around and park on the side of your head, Then floor it. or even just hit you dead on, stop while you slide off the hood and then nice and slow(per your request) go over you and crush you like a grape. or if they're me, they powerslide into you at about 45, and laugh at your impotent swarms and tears.

Chris F2112 187. 74	Posted - 2013.04.30 03:56:00 - [31] - Quote What should really happen is everyone should be thrown like a ragdoll over the hood taking a ton of damage. Not only would it be fun to watch an LAV zoom through a ton of people throwing them up into the air, it would provide a mechanic where it is not always a one hit kill. But to be honest all I care about is seeing mercs thrown over the hood of my car as I laugh like a maniac.
Val'herik Dorn SyNergy Gaming EoN. 484	Posted - 2013.04.30 03:57:00 - [32] - Quote How about when I jump the things in a scout suit... why do I still die?
Jakar Umbra Militaires-Sans-Frontieres 71	Posted - 2013.04.30 03:58:00 - [33] - Quote Chris F2112 wrote: What should really happen is everyone should be thrown like a ragdoll over the hood taking a ton of damage. Not only would it be fun to watch an LAV zoom through a ton of people throwing them up into the air, it would provide a mechanic where it is not always a one hit kill. But to be honest all I care about is seeing mercs thrown over the hood of my car as I laugh like a maniac. I am in total agreement with this. CCP could we also get vanity plates and custom horns while you're working on this? Pretty please? I have bacon.
Crazed Capitalist Militaires Sans Jeux 4	Posted - 2013.04.30 03:59:00 - [34] - Quote Heathen Bastard wrote: yes, it takes out your knee, you hit the floor, they come back around and park on the side of your head, Then floor it. or even just hit you dead on, stop while you slide off the hood and then nice and slow(per your request) go over you and crush you like a grape. or if they're me, they powerslide into you at about 45, and laugh at your impotent swarms and tears. Alright, you do all that to kill one guy while the other team is blowing you up. Just as long as we agree that one impact at a relatively low speed won't kill the guy.
Jakar Umbra Militaires-Sans-Frontieres 72	Posted - 2013.04.30 04:00:00 - [35] - Quote Val'herik Dorn wrote: How about when I jump the things in a scout suit... why do I still die? Guess the achilles heel of a scout is its achilles heel. Ba dump tsk.
Val'herik Dorn SyNergy Gaming EoN. 484	Posted - 2013.04.30 04:08:00 - [36] - Quote Jakar Umbra wrote: Val'herik Dorn wrote: How about when I jump the things in a scout suit... why do I still die? Guess the achilles heel of a scout is its achilles heel. Ba dump tsk. You sir get a like... It may be the case of beer I just drankcbut that made me lol... the bar got quiet too funny looks were had... no one else thought it wss that funny... jerks...
Don Von Hulio Not Guilty EoN. 179	Posted - 2013.04.30 04:12:00 - [37] - Quote I love these threads when people try to act like things in game are real and they know all the intricate specs of whatever they are talking about like they took a class on it.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 1122	Posted - 2013.04.30 04:21:00 - [38] - Quote Don Von Hulio wrote: I love these threads when people try to act like things in game are real and they know all the intricate specs of whatever they are talking about like they took a class on it. I took a class in Forum Warrioring and Lawyering, that's got to count for something.
Heathen Bastard Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 234	Posted - 2013.04.30 04:21:00 - [39] - Quote Crazed Capitalist wrote: Heathen Bastard wrote: yes, it takes out your knee, you hit the floor, they come back around and park on the side of your head, Then floor it. or even just hit you dead on, stop while you slide off the hood and then nice and slow(per your request) go over you and crush you like a grape. or if they're me, they powerslide into you at about 45, and laugh at your impotent swarms and tears. Alright, you do all that to kill one guy while the other team is blowing you up. Just as long as we agree that one impact at a relatively low speed won't kill the guy. in the game mechanics it does, and in physics, that much hitting your spine will paralyze you for life. effectively ending any kind of mercenary job on the spot. so yes, one won't kill you, but it will take you out of the fight, which as a clone will trigger you or your employers to hit the kill-switch and pop you in fresh. and the enemy team blowing me up? I laugh at that. took a swarm, got knocked into 2 proxy mines, and that only killed my gunner(alas poor blueberry, I never knew or cared about you.) I then drove away backwards at 60 MpH and got behind a box before the next could even be launched.
Rupture Reaperson Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION 106	Posted - 2013.04.30 04:38:00 - [40] - Quote Chris F2112 wrote: What should really happen is everyone should be thrown like a ragdoll over the hood taking a ton of damage. Not only would it be fun to watch an LAV zoom through a ton of people throwing them up into the air, it would provide a mechanic where it is not always a one hit kill. But to be honest all I care about is seeing mercs thrown over the hood of my car as I laugh like a maniac. I dig it.

Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. 479	Posted - 2013.04.30 07:01:00 - [41] - Quote Reiki Jubo wrote: its just a question, what do you think? it just seems weird because we're these mercs with armor and shields who can take half a clip from plasma rfles. it also really doesnt matter how fast im going if I make impact with someone they die. should it be autodeath or is that bad gameplay? more importantly, if the LAV should be, why does the tank push you when its tracks should crush you? Tin cans with wheels AKA jeeps a OHK?? HELLLL NOOOO!!! Got my POWERED exosuit with dual or triple hydrogen advanced fuel cells and some fool in a jeep runs me over?? The fuelcell goes BOOOOOOOOOMMMM!!! I got time to eject a fuel cell and say to the FOOL in the jeep: Your terminated. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vCLeV7PfJs
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 109	Posted - 2013.04.30 07:53:00 - [42] - Quote you can actually tank up a LAV enough to absorb a forge gun hit or swarms and still move on.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. 1302	Posted - 2013.04.30 10:09:00 - [43] - Quote Jack McReady wrote: you can actually tank up a LAV enough to absorb a forge gun hit or swarms and still move on. You can also untank a saga enough to make it an aerial vehicle capable of barrel rolls and flying onto buildings. And it still OHK's infantry.
crazy space 1 ZionTCD Unclaimed. 1041	Posted - 2013.04.30 10:13:00 - [44] - Quote Actually I think A New mechanic should be introduced. Heavies can activate their internal dampeners while crouched. So just press triangle and you are stuck in place, but if an LAV hits you they won't run you over they will get damaged a bit, not much. Basically the Suit is so heavy that if you drop to your knees in a stable position , you could be able to knock a light car off the road. A heavy suit weights 5 tons according to lore for gods sake. It most likely weights more than the LAV come to think of it... weird. Basically mass should play the biggest role in collsion damage and the postiton your in should help your mass.
The Robot Devil BetaMax. CRONOS. 147	Posted - 2013.04.30 10:14:00 - [45] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: I thought you were talking about how Militia LAVs only take one hit to destroy If you are dumb enough to get run over at a slow speed you deserve that death. If you didn't look twice before crossing that road you deserve to die. If you decided to bring the Stay-Puft Marshmallow suit out to use an HMG, you deserve to be roadkill. If you create a show of golden sparks and get stuck in my axle, you sure are dead. "The sparks keep me warm" Bender
crazy space 1 ZionTCD Unclaimed. 1041	Posted - 2013.04.30 10:16:00 - [46] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Reiki Jubo wrote: its just a question, what do you think? it just seems weird because we're these mercs with armor and shields who can take half a clip from plasma rfles. it also really doesnt matter how fast im going if I make impact with someone they die. should it be autodeath or is that bad gameplay? more importantly, if the LAV should be, why does the tank push you when its tracks should crush you? Tin cans with wheels AKA jeeps a OHK?? HELLLL NOOOO!!! Got my POWERED exosuit with dual or triple hydrogen advanced fuel cells and some fool in a jeep runs me over?? The fuelcell goes BOOOOOOOOOMMMM!!! I got time to eject a fuel cell and say to the FOOL in the jeep: Your terminated. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vCLeV7PfJs You know, it would be kinda cool if we blew up and did AOE damage every time we died. Powered suits and all. Then running someone over, their bodiy sticks to you and in a few seconds BOOM, you take some damage. Maybe 25% shields worth just to add to the awesome factor of running people over, and having builds around tanking dropsuits you squash.
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 110	Posted - 2013.04.30 10:16:00 - [47] - Quote crazy space 1 wrote: Basically the Suit is so heavy that if you drop to your knees in a stable position , you could be able to knock a light car off the road. A heavy suit weights 5 tons according to lore for gods sake. It most likely weights more than the LAV come to think of it... weird. if the heavy weights 5 tons, how much would a heavy tanked LAV would weight (especially when a heavy is inside)? it is build for war after all, not for cruising around.
fred orpaul The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 247	Posted - 2013.04.30 11:10:00 - [48] - Quote E=mc^2 oh and unlike a bullet all of that energy is transferring into you. you are instantaneously accelerating from 0-35mph suit is probably just fine, thats a lot of energy for the shields so they might collapse but the suit is ok, but we have to represent some how that your insides are scrambled. agreed tanks should run over every thing instead of crashing but the games physics are crap, and if a tank hits you fast enough you go splat.
Tolen Rosas Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 115	Posted - 2013.04.30 11:27:00 - [49] - Quote Heathen Bastard wrote: Crazed Capitalist wrote: Heathen Bastard wrote: yes, it takes out your knee, you hit the floor, they come back around and park on the side of your head, Then floor it. or even just hit you dead on, stop while you slide off the hood and then nice and slow(per your request) go over you and crush you like a grape. or if they're me, they powerslide into you at about 45, and laugh at your impotent swarms and tears. Alright, you do all that to kill one guy while the other team is blowing you up. Just as long as we agree that one impact at a relatively low speed won't kill the guy. in the game mechanics it does, and in physics, that much hitting your spine will paralyze you for life. effectively ending any kind of mercenary job on the spot. so yes, one won't kill you, but it will take you out of the fight, which as a clone will trigger you or your employers to hit the kill-switch and pop you in fresh. and the enemy team blowing me up? I laugh at that. took a swarm, got knocked into 2 proxy mines, and that only killed my gunner(alas poor blueberry, I never knew or cared about you.) I then drove away backwards at 60 MpH and got behind a box before the next could even be launched. u doth protest too much. sound like one of those guys who depends on the KAV to get kills. its cheap and makes no sense since my tank cant run people over.
The Rohypnol Kid Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 7	Posted - 2013.04.30 13:09:00 - [50] - Quote Heathen Bastard wrote: Crazed Capitalist wrote: Washlee wrote: Think of it this way , should you get another chance if you get hit by a car going 60mph Am I wearing a suit packed with shields and covered in armor? does that armor un-snap your spine, and un-shatter your ribs, and un-perforate your organs? My armour allows me to fall from the mcc, not use my inertia dampners, splat into the ground, get up and walk away whilst it fixes itself

Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 2645	Posted - 2013.04.30 14:11:00 - [51] - Quote fred orpaul wrote: E=mc^2 oh and unlike a bullet all of that energy is transferring into you. you are instantaneously accelerating from 0-35mph suit is probably just fine, thats a lot of energy for the shields so they might collapse but the suit is ok, but we have to represent some how that your insides are scrambled. agreed tanks should run over every thing instead of crashing but the games physics are crap, and if a tank hits you fast enough you go splat. You know E=MC-¦ doesn't have any relevance to how collision damage is calculated, right? That calculation is for working out the energy release by the breakdown of matter during nuclear fission. You know what an Atomic Bomb is? Yeah, it's that. If your calculation was actually relevant to kinetic energy in a collision, then a person running into a parked car at 20 km/h should get just as badly injured as when they get run over by the car travelling at 120 km/h because there's no velocity variable in the calculation. What SHOULD happen is that the two objects' RELATIVE velocity is counted, and each takes damage based on that speed combined with the mass of BOTH objects. If a speed-tanked Scout is sprinting full-speed just ahead of an enemy LAV with armour plates to slow it down, and the LAV catches up and nudges him, it shouldn't kill the Scout outright, although it will knock him out of sprint, meaning the next impact is a higher relative velocity. If the same Scout runs headlong into a speeding shield LAV, the LAV should take more damage from the collision even as it splatters him across the map.
Crazed Capitalist Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 5	Posted - 2013.04.30 15:10:00 - [52] - Quote Heathen Bastard wrote: Crazed Capitalist wrote: Heathen Bastard wrote: yes, it takes out your knee, you hit the floor, they come back around and park on the side of your head, Then floor it. or even just hit you dead on, stop while you slide off the hood and then nice and slow(per your request) go over you and crush you like a grape. or if they're me, they powerslide into you at about 45, and laugh at your impotent swarms and tears. Alright, you do all that to kill one guy while the other team is blowing you up. Just as long as we agree that one impact at a relatively low speed won't kill the guy. in the game mechanics it does, and in physics, that much hitting your spine will paralyze you for life. effectively ending any kind of mercenary job on the spot. so yes, one won't kill you, but it will take you out of the fight, which as a clone will trigger you or your employers to hit the kill-switch and pop you in fresh. and the enemy team blowing me up? I laugh at that. took a swarm, got knocked into 2 proxy mines, and that only killed my gunner(alas poor blueberry, I never knew or cared about you.) I then drove away backwards at 60 MpH and got behind a box before the next could even be launched. Yeah, getting hit at a slow speed will not paralyze you for life, that is not how physics works. It's all together possible, but not probable in the least. According to a number of studies generally it's about 35 mph is when a regular person is probably going to die from being hit by a car. You're really going to argue that someone wearing armor and shield getting hit at 10 or 15 will be killed or paralyzed? I'm all for LAV's killing when they hit, but it should be a speed threshold, not automatic kill no matter what
Illuminaughty-696 Omega Risk Control Services 257	Posted - 2013.04.30 15:45:00 - [53] - Quote Free starter LAVs should blow up when I look at them sideways. Seriously, though, free LAVs should go boom to one packed AV grenade. I have, however, seen plenty of expensive, well specced LAVs take two, if not three. Seems good. This is much better than when I had an LAV with almost 6k shields and a one-shot-one-kill almost anything proto missile launcher. Two for the tough heavies.
Z00KU BetaMax. CRONOS. 0	Posted - 2013.04.30 15:49:00 - [54] - Quote This Anmol Singh wrote: yes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5AqupZY2aE
Kushmir Nadian Valor Coalition RISE of LEGION 209	Posted - 2013.04.30 16:03:00 - [55] - Quote No. Like everything else in this game LAV impacts should have a FIXED DAMAGE. Auto-kills are a no-no...If the damage exceeds the target's total health? FINE--he's dead. I'm sorry but going 5mph and OHK a guy is lame. Also, tanks should be able to run people over rather than bumping them.
SickJ French unchained corporation Squale Operation Empire 58	Posted - 2013.04.30 16:35:00 - [56] - Quote Chris F2112 wrote: What should really happen is everyone should be thrown like a ragdoll over the hood taking a ton of damage. Not only would it be fun to watch an LAV zoom through a ton of people throwing them up into the air, it would provide a mechanic where it is not always a one hit kill. But to be honest all I care about is seeing mercs thrown over the hood of my car as I laugh like a maniac. This. So much. Awesome.
ugg reset ZionTCD Unclaimed. 264	Posted - 2013.04.30 16:38:00 - [57] - Quote SickJ wrote: Chris F2112 wrote: What should really happen is everyone should be thrown like a ragdoll over the hood taking a ton of damage. Not only would it be fun to watch an LAV zoom through a ton of people throwing them up into the air, it would provide a mechanic where it is not always a one hit kill. But to be honest all I care about is seeing mercs thrown over the hood of my car as I laugh like a maniac. This. So much. Awesome. Ya, could this be a thing.
Xender17 Oblivion S.G.X 37	Posted - 2013.04.30 16:53:00 - [58] - Quote Anmol Singh wrote: yes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5AqupZY2aE On the day I put my dog down.... I didn't need to see this...
King Kobrah SyNergy Gaming EoN. 210	Posted - 2013.04.30 17:13:00 - [59] - Quote scouts should be able to lay flat on their back and plant remote explosives on the undercarriage of the LAV as it tries to run them over make it happen CCP
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 1140	Posted - 2013.04.30 17:25:00 - [60] - Quote Kushmir Nadian wrote: No. Like everything else in this game LAV impacts should have a FIXED DAMAGE. Auto-kills are a no-no...If the damage exceeds the target's total health? FINE--he's dead. I'm sorry but going 5mph and OHK a guy is lame. Also, tanks should be able to run people over rather than bumping them. First of all, a 5 mph bump will just damage you, not kill you... unless you're a scout. Secondly, if you get hit by an LAV going at 5MPH, then you deserve instant death anyway.

Jikt Terlen Certificate of Participation 11	Posted - 2013.04.30 17:51:00 - [61] - Quote Chris F2112 wrote: What should really happen is everyone should be thrown like a ragdoll over the hood taking a ton of damage. Not only would it be fun to watch an LAV zoom through a ton of people throwing them up into the air, it would provide a mechanic where it is not always a one hit kill. But to be honest all I care about is seeing mercs thrown over the hood of my car as I laugh like a maniac. That would be more fun, honestly, for everyone involved. It would also be fun to be able to punt people if you hit them just right.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. 124	Posted - 2013.04.30 18:48:00 - [62] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: I think heavies should be able to take a hit from LAVs but that's just me... No, it's not really, I agree. In fact, I think LAVs should go boom if they run into a Heavy. Heavies need some love, slower, though tougher too. I think they'd make great semi-mobile bollards that double as self-aware ground-based POS guns.
Iskandar Zul Karnain Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 345	Posted - 2013.04.30 19:47:00 - [63] - Quote Chris F2112 wrote: What should really happen is everyone should be thrown like a ragdoll over the hood taking a ton of damage. Not only would it be fun to watch an LAV zoom through a ton of people throwing them up into the air, it would provide a mechanic where it is not always a one hit kill. But to be honest all I care about is seeing mercs thrown over the hood of my car as I laugh like a maniac. Kushmir Nadian wrote: No. Like everything else in this game LAV impacts should have a FIXED DAMAGE. Auto-kills are a no-no...If the damage exceeds the target's total health? FINE--he's dead. I'm sorry but going 5mph and OHK a guy is lame. Also, tanks should be able to run people over rather than bumping them. This.
fred orpaul The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 251	Posted - 2013.05.01 00:54:00 - [64] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: fred orpaul wrote: E=mc^2 oh and unlike a bullet all of that energy is transferring into you. you are instantaneously accelerating from 0-35mph suit is probably just fine, thats a lot of energy for the shields so they might collapse but the suit is ok, but we have to represent some how that your insides are scrambled. agreed tanks should run over every thing instead of crashing but the games physics are crap, and if a tank hits you fast enough you go splat. You know E=MC-¦ doesn't have any relevance to how collision damage is calculated, right? That calculation is for working out the energy release by the breakdown of matter during nuclear fission. You know what an Atomic Bomb is? Yeah, it's that. If your calculation was actually relevant to kinetic energy in a collision, then a person running into a parked car at 20 km/h should get just as badly injured as when they get run over by the car travelling at 120 km/h because there's no velocity variable in the calculation. What SHOULD happen is that the two objects' RELATIVE velocity is counted, and each takes damage based on that speed combined with the mass of BOTH objects. If a speed-tanked Scout is sprinting full-speed just ahead of an enemy LAV with armour plates to slow it down, and the LAV catches up and nudges him, it shouldn't kill the Scout outright, although it will knock him out of sprint, meaning the next impact is a higher relative velocity. If the same Scout runs headlong into a speeding shield LAV, the LAV should take more damage from the collision even as it splatters him across the map. you are right my bad wrong equation e=mv^2. As for hitting the ground you absorb all the shock in the legs of your power assisted suit which takes the brunt of the damage, its amazing what a crumple zone can do to save your life. and yes the damgae calculations for some reason dont calculate collision damage but some stupid dragging damage ** why am I deffending this **
Llan Heindell One-Armed Bandits Atrocitas 18	Posted - 2013.05.01 01:00:00 - [65] - Quote fred orpaul wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: fred orpaul wrote: E=mc^2 oh and unlike a bullet all of that energy is transferring into you. you are instantaneously accelerating from 0-35mph suit is probably just fine, thats a lot of energy for the shields so they might collapse but the suit is ok, but we have to represent some how that your insides are scrambled. agreed tanks should run over every thing instead of crashing but the games physics are crap, and if a tank hits you fast enough you go splat. You know E=MC-¦ doesn't have any relevance to how collision damage is calculated, right? That calculation is for working out the energy release by the breakdown of matter during nuclear fission. You know what an Atomic Bomb is? Yeah, it's that. If your calculation was actually relevant to kinetic energy in a collision, then a person running into a parked car at 20 km/h should get just as badly injured as when they get run over by the car travelling at 120 km/h because there's no velocity variable in the calculation. What SHOULD happen is that the two objects' RELATIVE velocity is counted, and each takes damage based on that speed combined with the mass of BOTH objects. If a speed-tanked Scout is sprinting full-speed just ahead of an enemy LAV with armour plates to slow it down, and the LAV catches up and nudges him, it shouldn't kill the Scout outright, although it will knock him out of sprint, meaning the next impact is a higher relative velocity. If the same Scout runs headlong into a speeding shield LAV, the LAV should take more damage from the collision even as it splatters him across the map. you are right my bad wrong equation e=mv^2. As for hitting the ground you absorb all the shock in the legs of your power assisted suit which takes the brunt of the damage, its amazing what a crumple zone can do to save your life. and yes the damgae calculations for some reason dont calculate collision damage but some stupid dragging damage ** why am I deffending this ** Is that the right equation? Anyways, I agree. I think a full armor tank heavy should kill a shield tanked LAV on impact, because damn, heavies are god damn heavy. Live long and prosper, off the roads. Llan Heindell.


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