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Chris F2112
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Posted - 2013.04.30 03:56:00 -
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What should really happen is everyone should be thrown like a ragdoll over the hood taking a ton of damage. Not only would it be fun to watch an LAV zoom through a ton of people throwing them up into the air, it would provide a mechanic where it is not always a one hit kill.
But to be honest all I care about is seeing mercs thrown over the hood of my car as I laugh like a maniac. |
Val'herik Dorn
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
484
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Posted - 2013.04.30 03:57:00 -
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How about when I jump the things in a scout suit... why do I still die? |
Jakar Umbra
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
71
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Posted - 2013.04.30 03:58:00 -
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Chris F2112 wrote:What should really happen is everyone should be thrown like a ragdoll over the hood taking a ton of damage. Not only would it be fun to watch an LAV zoom through a ton of people throwing them up into the air, it would provide a mechanic where it is not always a one hit kill.
But to be honest all I care about is seeing mercs thrown over the hood of my car as I laugh like a maniac.
I am in total agreement with this. CCP could we also get vanity plates and custom horns while you're working on this? Pretty please? I have bacon. |
Crazed Capitalist
Militaires Sans Jeux
4
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Posted - 2013.04.30 03:59:00 -
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Heathen Bastard wrote: yes, it takes out your knee, you hit the floor, they come back around and park on the side of your head, Then floor it. or even just hit you dead on, stop while you slide off the hood and then nice and slow(per your request) go over you and crush you like a grape.
or if they're me, they powerslide into you at about 45, and laugh at your impotent swarms and tears.
Alright, you do all that to kill one guy while the other team is blowing you up. Just as long as we agree that one impact at a relatively low speed won't kill the guy. |
Jakar Umbra
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
72
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Posted - 2013.04.30 04:00:00 -
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Val'herik Dorn wrote:How about when I jump the things in a scout suit... why do I still die?
Guess the achilles heel of a scout is its achilles heel.
Ba dump tsk. |
Val'herik Dorn
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
484
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Posted - 2013.04.30 04:08:00 -
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Jakar Umbra wrote:Val'herik Dorn wrote:How about when I jump the things in a scout suit... why do I still die? Guess the achilles heel of a scout is its achilles heel. Ba dump tsk.
You sir get a like...
It may be the case of beer I just drankcbut that made me lol... the bar got quiet too funny looks were had... no one else thought it wss that funny... jerks... |
Don Von Hulio
Not Guilty EoN.
179
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Posted - 2013.04.30 04:12:00 -
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I love these threads when people try to act like things in game are real and they know all the intricate specs of whatever they are talking about like they took a class on it. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1122
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Posted - 2013.04.30 04:21:00 -
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Don Von Hulio wrote:I love these threads when people try to act like things in game are real and they know all the intricate specs of whatever they are talking about like they took a class on it. I took a class in Forum Warrioring and Lawyering, that's got to count for something. |
Heathen Bastard
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
234
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Posted - 2013.04.30 04:21:00 -
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Crazed Capitalist wrote:Heathen Bastard wrote: yes, it takes out your knee, you hit the floor, they come back around and park on the side of your head, Then floor it. or even just hit you dead on, stop while you slide off the hood and then nice and slow(per your request) go over you and crush you like a grape.
or if they're me, they powerslide into you at about 45, and laugh at your impotent swarms and tears.
Alright, you do all that to kill one guy while the other team is blowing you up. Just as long as we agree that one impact at a relatively low speed won't kill the guy.
in the game mechanics it does, and in physics, that much hitting your spine will paralyze you for life. effectively ending any kind of mercenary job on the spot.
so yes, one won't kill you, but it will take you out of the fight, which as a clone will trigger you or your employers to hit the kill-switch and pop you in fresh.
and the enemy team blowing me up? I laugh at that. took a swarm, got knocked into 2 proxy mines, and that only killed my gunner(alas poor blueberry, I never knew or cared about you.) I then drove away backwards at 60 MpH and got behind a box before the next could even be launched. |
Rupture Reaperson
Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION
106
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Posted - 2013.04.30 04:38:00 -
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Chris F2112 wrote:What should really happen is everyone should be thrown like a ragdoll over the hood taking a ton of damage. Not only would it be fun to watch an LAV zoom through a ton of people throwing them up into the air, it would provide a mechanic where it is not always a one hit kill.
But to be honest all I care about is seeing mercs thrown over the hood of my car as I laugh like a maniac.
I dig it. |
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Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S.
479
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Posted - 2013.04.30 07:01:00 -
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Reiki Jubo wrote:its just a question, what do you think? it just seems weird because we're these mercs with armor and shields who can take half a clip from plasma rfles. it also really doesnt matter how fast im going if I make impact with someone they die. should it be autodeath or is that bad gameplay?
more importantly, if the LAV should be, why does the tank push you when its tracks should crush you?
Tin cans with wheels AKA jeeps a OHK?? HELLLL NOOOO!!!
Got my POWERED exosuit with dual or triple hydrogen advanced fuel cells and some fool in a jeep runs me over?? The fuelcell goes BOOOOOOOOOMMMM!!! I got time to eject a fuel cell and say to the FOOL in the jeep: Your terminated.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vCLeV7PfJs |
Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
109
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Posted - 2013.04.30 07:53:00 -
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you can actually tank up a LAV enough to absorb a forge gun hit or swarms and still move on. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S.
1302
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Posted - 2013.04.30 10:09:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:you can actually tank up a LAV enough to absorb a forge gun hit or swarms and still move on. You can also untank a saga enough to make it an aerial vehicle capable of barrel rolls and flying onto buildings. And it still OHK's infantry. |
crazy space 1
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
1041
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Posted - 2013.04.30 10:13:00 -
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Actually I think A New mechanic should be introduced. Heavies can activate their internal dampeners while crouched. So just press triangle and you are stuck in place, but if an LAV hits you they won't run you over they will get damaged a bit, not much.
Basically the Suit is so heavy that if you drop to your knees in a stable position , you could be able to knock a light car off the road. A heavy suit weights 5 tons according to lore for gods sake. It most likely weights more than the LAV come to think of it... weird.
Basically mass should play the biggest role in collsion damage and the postiton your in should help your mass. |
The Robot Devil
BetaMax. CRONOS.
147
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Posted - 2013.04.30 10:14:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:I thought you were talking about how Militia LAVs only take one hit to destroy If you are dumb enough to get run over at a slow speed you deserve that death. If you didn't look twice before crossing that road you deserve to die. If you decided to bring the Stay-Puft Marshmallow suit out to use an HMG, you deserve to be roadkill. If you create a show of golden sparks and get stuck in my axle, you sure are dead.
"The sparks keep me warm" Bender |
crazy space 1
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
1041
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Posted - 2013.04.30 10:16:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Reiki Jubo wrote:its just a question, what do you think? it just seems weird because we're these mercs with armor and shields who can take half a clip from plasma rfles. it also really doesnt matter how fast im going if I make impact with someone they die. should it be autodeath or is that bad gameplay?
more importantly, if the LAV should be, why does the tank push you when its tracks should crush you? Tin cans with wheels AKA jeeps a OHK?? HELLLL NOOOO!!! Got my POWERED exosuit with dual or triple hydrogen advanced fuel cells and some fool in a jeep runs me over?? The fuelcell goes BOOOOOOOOOMMMM!!! I got time to eject a fuel cell and say to the FOOL in the jeep: Your terminated. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vCLeV7PfJs
You know, it would be kinda cool if we blew up and did AOE damage every time we died. Powered suits and all. Then running someone over, their bodiy sticks to you and in a few seconds BOOM, you take some damage. Maybe 25% shields worth just to add to the awesome factor of running people over, and having builds around tanking dropsuits you squash. |
Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
110
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Posted - 2013.04.30 10:16:00 -
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crazy space 1 wrote: Basically the Suit is so heavy that if you drop to your knees in a stable position , you could be able to knock a light car off the road. A heavy suit weights 5 tons according to lore for gods sake. It most likely weights more than the LAV come to think of it... weird.
if the heavy weights 5 tons, how much would a heavy tanked LAV would weight (especially when a heavy is inside)? it is build for war after all, not for cruising around.
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fred orpaul
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
247
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Posted - 2013.04.30 11:10:00 -
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E=mc^2 oh and unlike a bullet all of that energy is transferring into you.
you are instantaneously accelerating from 0-35mph suit is probably just fine, thats a lot of energy for the shields so they might collapse but the suit is ok, but we have to represent some how that your insides are scrambled.
agreed tanks should run over every thing instead of crashing but the games physics are crap, and if a tank hits you fast enough you go splat.
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Tolen Rosas
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
115
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Posted - 2013.04.30 11:27:00 -
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Heathen Bastard wrote:Crazed Capitalist wrote:Heathen Bastard wrote: yes, it takes out your knee, you hit the floor, they come back around and park on the side of your head, Then floor it. or even just hit you dead on, stop while you slide off the hood and then nice and slow(per your request) go over you and crush you like a grape.
or if they're me, they powerslide into you at about 45, and laugh at your impotent swarms and tears.
Alright, you do all that to kill one guy while the other team is blowing you up. Just as long as we agree that one impact at a relatively low speed won't kill the guy. in the game mechanics it does, and in physics, that much hitting your spine will paralyze you for life. effectively ending any kind of mercenary job on the spot. so yes, one won't kill you, but it will take you out of the fight, which as a clone will trigger you or your employers to hit the kill-switch and pop you in fresh. and the enemy team blowing me up? I laugh at that. took a swarm, got knocked into 2 proxy mines, and that only killed my gunner(alas poor blueberry, I never knew or cared about you.) I then drove away backwards at 60 MpH and got behind a box before the next could even be launched.
u doth protest too much. sound like one of those guys who depends on the KAV to get kills.
its cheap and makes no sense since my tank cant run people over. |
The Rohypnol Kid
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2013.04.30 13:09:00 -
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Heathen Bastard wrote:Crazed Capitalist wrote:Washlee wrote:Think of it this way , should you get another chance if you get hit by a car going 60mph Am I wearing a suit packed with shields and covered in armor? does that armor un-snap your spine, and un-shatter your ribs, and un-perforate your organs?
My armour allows me to fall from the mcc, not use my inertia dampners, splat into the ground, get up and walk away whilst it fixes itself |
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2645
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Posted - 2013.04.30 14:11:00 -
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fred orpaul wrote:E=mc^2 oh and unlike a bullet all of that energy is transferring into you.
you are instantaneously accelerating from 0-35mph suit is probably just fine, thats a lot of energy for the shields so they might collapse but the suit is ok, but we have to represent some how that your insides are scrambled.
agreed tanks should run over every thing instead of crashing but the games physics are crap, and if a tank hits you fast enough you go splat. You know E=MC-¦ doesn't have any relevance to how collision damage is calculated, right?
That calculation is for working out the energy release by the breakdown of matter during nuclear fission. You know what an Atomic Bomb is? Yeah, it's that.
If your calculation was actually relevant to kinetic energy in a collision, then a person running into a parked car at 20 km/h should get just as badly injured as when they get run over by the car travelling at 120 km/h because there's no velocity variable in the calculation.
What SHOULD happen is that the two objects' RELATIVE velocity is counted, and each takes damage based on that speed combined with the mass of BOTH objects.
If a speed-tanked Scout is sprinting full-speed just ahead of an enemy LAV with armour plates to slow it down, and the LAV catches up and nudges him, it shouldn't kill the Scout outright, although it will knock him out of sprint, meaning the next impact is a higher relative velocity. If the same Scout runs headlong into a speeding shield LAV, the LAV should take more damage from the collision even as it splatters him across the map. |
Crazed Capitalist
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
5
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Posted - 2013.04.30 15:10:00 -
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Heathen Bastard wrote:Crazed Capitalist wrote:Heathen Bastard wrote: yes, it takes out your knee, you hit the floor, they come back around and park on the side of your head, Then floor it. or even just hit you dead on, stop while you slide off the hood and then nice and slow(per your request) go over you and crush you like a grape.
or if they're me, they powerslide into you at about 45, and laugh at your impotent swarms and tears.
Alright, you do all that to kill one guy while the other team is blowing you up. Just as long as we agree that one impact at a relatively low speed won't kill the guy. in the game mechanics it does, and in physics, that much hitting your spine will paralyze you for life. effectively ending any kind of mercenary job on the spot. so yes, one won't kill you, but it will take you out of the fight, which as a clone will trigger you or your employers to hit the kill-switch and pop you in fresh. and the enemy team blowing me up? I laugh at that. took a swarm, got knocked into 2 proxy mines, and that only killed my gunner(alas poor blueberry, I never knew or cared about you.) I then drove away backwards at 60 MpH and got behind a box before the next could even be launched.
Yeah, getting hit at a slow speed will not paralyze you for life, that is not how physics works. It's all together possible, but not probable in the least. According to a number of studies generally it's about 35 mph is when a regular person is probably going to die from being hit by a car. You're really going to argue that someone wearing armor and shield getting hit at 10 or 15 will be killed or paralyzed? I'm all for LAV's killing when they hit, but it should be a speed threshold, not automatic kill no matter what |
Illuminaughty-696
Omega Risk Control Services
257
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Posted - 2013.04.30 15:45:00 -
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Free starter LAVs should blow up when I look at them sideways.
Seriously, though, free LAVs should go boom to one packed AV grenade. I have, however, seen plenty of expensive, well specced LAVs take two, if not three. Seems good. This is much better than when I had an LAV with almost 6k shields and a one-shot-one-kill almost anything proto missile launcher. Two for the tough heavies. |
Z00KU
BetaMax. CRONOS.
0
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Posted - 2013.04.30 15:49:00 -
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This
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Kushmir Nadian
Valor Coalition RISE of LEGION
209
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Posted - 2013.04.30 16:03:00 -
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No.
Like everything else in this game LAV impacts should have a FIXED DAMAGE. Auto-kills are a no-no...If the damage exceeds the target's total health? FINE--he's dead.
I'm sorry but going 5mph and OHK a guy is lame.
Also, tanks should be able to run people over rather than bumping them. |
SickJ
French unchained corporation Squale Operation Empire
58
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Posted - 2013.04.30 16:35:00 -
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Chris F2112 wrote:What should really happen is everyone should be thrown like a ragdoll over the hood taking a ton of damage. Not only would it be fun to watch an LAV zoom through a ton of people throwing them up into the air, it would provide a mechanic where it is not always a one hit kill.
But to be honest all I care about is seeing mercs thrown over the hood of my car as I laugh like a maniac. This. So much. Awesome. |
ugg reset
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
264
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Posted - 2013.04.30 16:38:00 -
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SickJ wrote:Chris F2112 wrote:What should really happen is everyone should be thrown like a ragdoll over the hood taking a ton of damage. Not only would it be fun to watch an LAV zoom through a ton of people throwing them up into the air, it would provide a mechanic where it is not always a one hit kill.
But to be honest all I care about is seeing mercs thrown over the hood of my car as I laugh like a maniac. This. So much. Awesome.
Ya, could this be a thing. |
Xender17
Oblivion S.G.X
37
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Posted - 2013.04.30 16:53:00 -
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On the day I put my dog down.... I didn't need to see this... |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
210
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Posted - 2013.04.30 17:13:00 -
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scouts should be able to lay flat on their back and plant remote explosives on the undercarriage of the LAV as it tries to run them over
make it happen CCP |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1140
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Posted - 2013.04.30 17:25:00 -
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Kushmir Nadian wrote:No.
Like everything else in this game LAV impacts should have a FIXED DAMAGE. Auto-kills are a no-no...If the damage exceeds the target's total health? FINE--he's dead.
I'm sorry but going 5mph and OHK a guy is lame.
Also, tanks should be able to run people over rather than bumping them. First of all, a 5 mph bump will just damage you, not kill you... unless you're a scout.
Secondly, if you get hit by an LAV going at 5MPH, then you deserve instant death anyway. |
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