so the AR got nerfed from being able to win at every range except sniper range to actually having to pick a weapon for how you want to fight? They made variety happen by taking something that was blatantly OP out of the game... I'm still not seeing a problem here.

everybody should probably postpone their celebration/mourning.

the op says from the ROOF of C, to the CRU. that's a fairly tall roof, thus increasing the total distance beyond what the top down map shows, by a fairly large amount. because, you know... angles.

If this is AR range, I'm terrified to find out what the HMG range looks like. Might as well use a shotty.

Also, to all the idiots who think I'm QQing, I'm just saying how ridiculous it is.
Unless they increased the AR damage to fit into "close range high damage", then its useless.
I'm moving to Amarr next build, the armor damage isn't that bad.
Plus I have the flaylock pistol.
kthnxbye.

Dude, are you shitting me? It's got the highest DPS in the game, second only to the HMG. No other weapon can dish out that kind of damage - I gave up trying to specialize in the CQC Scout and started using the Assault Rifle. I just hit Proficiency 1 and already I'm downing other players in as little as TEN ****ING BULLETS!

And don't even get me started on the poor Heavies who can't get out of the way of my wall of death.

Assault Rifle NEEDED this range reduction - it's not supposed to be a God Mode weapon and it sure as **** isn't meant to have 100+ meters of effective range with the kind of damage it puts out.

I changed over to the Assault Rifle and my KDR shot up DRAMATICALLY. I even went three matches in a row without dying. As a CQC Scout, that would never happen. As a Heavy, that would never happen. If anything, this just gives the players all the more reason to SPECIALIZE into a ROLE - not be a King of All Trades.

crazy how ARs had so much range now they cant shoot from C to the edge of the map and theyre crying? madness.

SS was too powerful. turned the Duvolle into a sniper.

The SMG has the same DPS lol
I do just as well with a heavy HMG, or a scout shotgun.
Both of which I have almost zero skills into, just enough to use them.

First:
Crying about a nerf before it happens? This is truly the internets.

Second:
with the range you showed, that doesn't look like a nerf to me. I don't think the regular AR that I have can shoot that far right now,

I love how everyone is mad about the AR "losing" range, when it is all weapons that are going back to their original range. The only real change is those "pro" players that had an unfair range boost due to sharpshooter proficiency 5 are going to be in range of everyone they used to kill for the simple fact the other people couldn't hit them. So enjoy these last few weeks everyone that has your immortal range increase, because come May 6th you are brought into range of everyone, and the tears are going to be delicious.

Sharpshooter nerf, great nerf. Now time to get more damage nerfs by upping the stacking modifier on multiple damage mods. The removal of the weaponry damage boost is a good first step in that area.

Dude, the AR was nerfed, I can hit targets from there with my alt who has zero sharpshooter skills.
In fact I can hit twice that range.

No it wasn't. My alt is heavy only and it can't hit **** with an AR unless it is basically right in front of it. On that same map the AR with no sharpshooter increase will barely shoot from corner to corner under the platform in the center of the map. Learn to play scrubs, your range advantage is going by-by.

I don't understand the problem.

1 - The weapon is more balanced now.

2 - If you don't like it, May 6th will be here very soon so you can respec.

http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/forums/lineharvest_skirmish_thumb.jpg

H'mm, it's kind of hard to tell, but that doesn't seem like a nerf. Has anyone tried with no points in Sharpshooter?

Anyone who says that the range isn't decreased either..
A) Never used an AR
B) Never played on that map.

I could stand on that roof and throw a grenade and almost reach that distance.

The main problem with CCP is that they only use a description of range, when every rifle in the modern world lists effective range in it's description. Range is the single most important stat after damage, and they will only HINT at what it MIGHT be.

I don't mind a distance nerf, as long as you let me KNOW THE DISTANCE OF THE WEAPONS.

If you're going to make AR guys fight that close range, it's just going to be a 100% migration to the Flaylock. And a sidearm should never trump a main weapon.

I'm happy with range nerf, if indeed sharpshooter was removed. Sorry but the skill made weapons range nonsense. ARs hitting me at my LR range. My LR hitting snipers across map. Shotguns...lol.

I'm happy with range nerf, if indeed sharpshooter was removed. Sorry but the skill made weapons range nonsense. ARs hitting me at my LR range. My LR hitting snipers across map. Shotguns...lol.