Many of us are well aware of CCP's history.

Many of use are also aware of the history of those "proper" games' developers.

- Bungie- WTF was Myth III farmed out?! What happened with the promised awesome of ONI? Why did the "AAA" shooter Halo have so many issues as an MMOFPS?
- EA- 'Nuff said about them
- Ad nauseum.

Game companies, like most companies, disappoint.

What is remarkable is that CCP manages to do so much with so little. The graphics shown for Uprising really push the boundaries of the PS3's abysmal hardware limitations. Everyone knows that they are also "secretly" making sure that things like art assets are ready for Unreal Engine 4 and PS4 deployment.

So, really what it comes down to is that Bungie likely heard rumblings of EVE getting a persistent-world FPS when it was first floated years ago and said, "Hey, we could do that!".

The difference is that CCP is already doing it and Destiny can't do crap for real players until the PS4 comes out.

Exactly the point I am trying to make. EVE has always been a niche game. CCP is not ready for an AAA game.

But Dust probably need another 12 months time or more to launch, and by that time PS4 has already came out, Destiny adverts will keep people waiting, and nobody is gonna pay attention to dust.

I mean look at the speed CCP do things. They need months or even years to implement a TINY feature. They won't survive in the real world.

You need to get your eyes checked.

He's the marketing guy. He always says that. This thread is about as fresh as ... something that isn't very fresh...

a three day old half drank up beer you find behind the couch after the hangover from a major weekend rager has finally faded into memory?

But I will consider DUST 514 a AAA game the day I can walk into Walmart and buy myself a copy.

PS don't drink that beer. Even if it seems like it's free. Finding opened beers that you've left around the house is not the same as finding money in the pockets of some jeans you haven't worn for a while.

Turd 514 a AAA shooter?

And they said Mittens spoke crap when handed a microphone.

I'd prefer being able to play on either and then slowly transition all the way to the ps4. Changing instantly will cut off a lot of players

Are you talking trash about Free Beers?

He will find you. And he will kill you.

it was sarcasm

How do you think Dust will stand up against Destiny?

Well, really just word play, but yeah. I was just cracking a joke.

Turd 514 a AAA shooter?

And they said Mittens spoke crap when handed a microphone.

Look, all I was trying to say was DON"T DRINK THE BEER!!!!

IT"S MADE OUT OF PEOPLE!!!!

One thing about CCP is that they will "aspire" to do something, and then do it really slowly, and then stops at 10%.

This is not something I made up. The history of EVE is full of unfinished ideas. There is simply too many of them.

One example would be "walking in station". Several years ago they started the project, and then worked very slowly.

They finally settled with a character creation, a room to walk in, and nothing else.

The way CCP works: inject hopes and dreams into the player, do a little bit to keep them hooked over a long period of time, and then never finish the idea and leave the player "hoping for more". CCP essentially tell lies to make money. This is an essential part of their business model and they simply don't have the right people to launch an "AAA" title.

I mean look at proper PS4 titles here. These are what REAL games look like. Dust is just a gimmicky FPS that will probably survive by leaching a small amount of loyal player base for a very long time. But it probably won't become mainstream in any sort of way.

Look, all I was trying to say was DON"T DRINK THE BEER!!!!

IT"S MADE OUT OF PEOPLE!!!!

- Bungie- WTF was Myth III farmed out?!

How do you think Dust will stand up against Destiny?

Can I have yer stuff?

I know this is going kind of a long ways back to respond to what isn't really a particularly relevant point, but yes, yes Myth III was farmed out. It was developed by MumboJumbo, and Bungie had no hand in it.

discuss amongst yourselves as to the validity of this statement

Dust is just a gimmicky FPS that will probably survive by leaching a small amount of loyal player base for a very long time. But it probably won't become mainstream in any sort of way.