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Vaerana Myshtana
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Posted - 2013.04.26 02:43:00 -
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5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak4q wrote:How do you think Dust will stand up against Destiny?
Honestly, from what I've seen of Destiny, it looks like a pretty MMORPG with FPS as its primary fight mechanic.
That's not a bad thing, just different.
On the other hand, Destiny is being created from whole cloth and it shows. For instance, The Hive looks like the most generic space zombie I can think of. I don't yet get the feel of a well-developed world and backstory, i.e.- they don't have a ten-year history and they didn't hire me to do the worldbuilding.
It is also worth noting that Dust can be wildly successful with a tenth of the userbase that Destiny will need to break even. Bungie's bloated a bit since the days of Myth. |
Vaerana Myshtana
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.04.26 02:46:00 -
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5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak4q wrote:I mean look at the speed CCP do things. They need months or even years to implement a TINY feature. They won't survive in the real world.
Um... Do you hear that? I think it's History come a-knocking to point out that a no-name game of Internet space spreadsheets is celebrating its ten anniversary of constant growth in defiance of every critic who predicted its death. |
Vaerana Myshtana
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.04.26 02:58:00 -
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5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak4q wrote:I mean look at proper PS4 titles here. These are what REAL games look like. Dust is just a gimmicky FPS that will probably survive by leaching a small amount of loyal player base for a very long time. But it probably won't become mainstream in any sort of way.
Many of us are well aware of CCP's history.
Many of use are also aware of the history of those "proper" games' developers.
- Bungie- WTF was Myth III farmed out?! What happened with the promised awesome of ONI? Why did the "AAA" shooter Halo have so many issues as an MMOFPS?
- EA- 'Nuff said about them
- Ad nauseum.
Game companies, like most companies, disappoint.
What is remarkable is that CCP manages to do so much with so little. The graphics shown for Uprising really push the boundaries of the PS3's abysmal hardware limitations. Everyone knows that they are also "secretly" making sure that things like art assets are ready for Unreal Engine 4 and PS4 deployment.
So, really what it comes down to is that Bungie likely heard rumblings of EVE getting a persistent-world FPS when it was first floated years ago and said, "Hey, we could do that!".
The difference is that CCP is already doing it and Destiny can't do crap for real players until the PS4 comes out.
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Vaerana Myshtana
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.04.26 03:09:00 -
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5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak4q wrote:Exactly the point I am trying to make. EVE has always been a niche game. CCP is not ready for an AAA game.
AAA has come to mean more about quality than size of the developer.
Take Star Citizen and Shroud of the Avatar for example. Both are widely being considered AAA games based on the previous work of their lead designers (and development screenshots, etc.) even though both are being made by small, crowdfunded corps. |
Vaerana Myshtana
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.04.26 03:10:00 -
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5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak4q wrote:But Dust probably need another 12 months time or more to launch, and by that time PS4 has already came out, Destiny adverts will keep people waiting, and nobody is gonna pay attention to dust.
Can I have yer stuff? |
Vaerana Myshtana
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.04.26 03:17:00 -
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Protoman Is God wrote:Vaerana Myshtana wrote:
What is remarkable is that CCP manages to do so much with so little. The graphics shown for Uprising really push the boundaries of the PS3's abysmal hardware limitations.
You need to get your eyes checked.
You need to understand rendering load. Opening up the terrain alone is scary, scary, terrifying load on the GPU. Think about how many extra polygons have to be loaded, tracked, textured, shaded, raytraced, filtered, etc. in real time.
My dupa is overheating just trying to imagine it. I need a cooling fan back there.
Add on top of that the massive improvements in general look-and-feel and I stand by my original statement.
Just because some other game looks prettier in its fishbowl doesn't mean that that games' devs pushed the limits of the hardware.
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Vaerana Myshtana
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.04.26 03:19:00 -
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Aighun wrote:He's the marketing guy. He always says that. This thread is about as fresh as ... something that isn't very fresh...
a three day old half drank up beer you find behind the couch after the hangover from a major weekend rager has finally faded into memory?
But I will consider DUST 514 a AAA game the day I can walk into Walmart and buy myself a copy.
PS don't drink that beer. Even if it seems like it's free. Finding opened beers that you've left around the house is not the same as finding money in the pockets of some jeans you haven't worn for a while.
Are you talking trash about Free Beers?
He will find you. And he will kill you.  |
Vaerana Myshtana
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Posted - 2013.04.26 03:45:00 -
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BlG MAMA wrote:it was sarcasm 
Well, really just word play, but yeah. I was just cracking a joke. |
Vaerana Myshtana
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Posted - 2013.04.26 03:48:00 -
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Three Double-A Batteries wrote:Turd 514 a AAA shooter?
And they said Mittens spoke crap when handed a microphone.
Shh... People will see your ^Real Identity^...  |
Vaerana Myshtana
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Posted - 2013.04.26 03:49:00 -
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Aighun wrote:Vaerana Myshtana wrote:BlG MAMA wrote:it was sarcasm Well, really just word play, but yeah. I was just cracking a joke. Look, all I was trying to say was DON"T DRINK THE BEER!!!! IT"S MADE OUT OF PEOPLE!!!!
Yeah, Free Beers. |
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Vaerana Myshtana
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Posted - 2013.04.26 12:30:00 -
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Alan-Ibn-Xuan Al-Alasabe wrote:Vaerana Myshtana wrote:
- Bungie- WTF was Myth III farmed out?!
I know this is going kind of a long ways back to respond to what isn't really a particularly relevant point, but yes, yes Myth III was farmed out. It was developed by MumboJumbo, and Bungie had no hand in it.
Sorry, I meant that in the sense of Why The *kitten* was it farmed out. I suppose I should've been clear.
I guess I've just been very disappointed in Bungie ever since they got big investors.  |
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