LazOrs are not OP, its the combination of LazOrs and damage mods.

Please come up with a more eloquent argument other then "LazOr lights everywhere like a club is silly"

Hint : shield mods are better than damage mods nearly always.

Hint : shield mods are better than damage mods nearly always.

Here, I did your work for you.

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=68744

If you would just stop spawning in front of me I wouldn't have to melt your face.

Would be cool if there was a reverse Laser rifle... Stronger up close.

takes no skill to use them..

Sounds like a shotgun.

Would be cool if there was a reverse Laser rifle... Stronger up close.

You want something that takes no skill to use? Assault rifles. Doesn't matter how you play, if you spray enough bullets at someone's general direction, they are going to die. The same cannot be said for any other weapon.

SMG, HMG.... need i say more?

Depends, the excellent range of the LR makes it particularly abusable with damage mods as the AR builds usually need to get in just a bit closer and alot of times do indeed need the shield mods.


Edit: Oh and umm. There is more then 1 game mode. Skirmish is not superior to Ambush. If a weapon is unbalanced in 1 and not the other then it needs to be fixed. Thanks for your opinion however.

Personally, I think if the damage build up only applied if the lazer is fixed on the target it would solve alot of problems.

This would make the laser useless.

The laser is a pretty bad general purpose weapon as it is. Yes, it shines at it's optimal range, but so do nearly all of the weapons. Stop trying to defeat a weapon at it's optimal range, that's just poor tactics.

so tired of playing matches and lookin like you are in some club with laser lights going off everywhere. Nerf or get rid of them all together.. takes no skill to use them.

too over powered ..

Then perhaps as has been suggested before buff damage and remove build up.
I just personally dont think a heavy should be dying about a second after an assault would in much circumstances, but I digress.

Stop being terrible.

No, seriously. Just stop being terrible.

Ignore that guy, he's nuts. A lot of us have been trying to get damage build-up tied to time-on-target ever since those were released, and they would in NO way make lasers useless. They would just solve the ability to miss your target for everything except that last swipe over the head that wastes them instantly because the damage builds with the heat level, which honestly doesn't make any sense from a physics standpoint.

Making the damage build-up depend on keeping the beam on target, and maybe having the damage level fall the longer the beam is off the target would in no way impede the skilled users. Honestly, I think it would eliminate most of the complaints we get about the weapon.

Lol, no. The laser is of marginal use now. The only reason people ***** about it is because they don't understand it's limitations, and ambush plays out mostly within the 10m or so of the optimal range on the laser. This is why you rarely see it in skirmish, unless one team is red lined, again causing the game to play out at that exact range.

If we happen to get a weapon that has a slightly longer range than the laser, but still useful in a run and gun type situation, you will see the laser disappear almost entirely.

Get out of optimal.

Lol, no. The laser is of marginal use now. The only reason people ***** about it is because they don't understand it's limitations, and ambush plays out mostly within the 10m or so of the optimal range on the laser. This is why you rarely see it in skirmish, unless one team is red lined, again causing the game to play out at that exact range.

If we happen to get a weapon that has a slightly longer range than the laser, but still useful in a run and gun type situation, you will see the laser disappear almost entirely.

Get out of optimal.

You want something that takes no skill to use? Assault rifles. Doesn't matter how you play, if you spray enough bullets at someone's general direction, they are going to die. The same cannot be said for any other weapon.

Stop being terrible.

No, seriously. Just stop being terrible.
[quote=Spademan][quote=Buster Friently][quote=Spademan]Personally, I think if the damage build up only applied if the lazer is fixed on the target it would solve alot of problems.

You want something that takes no skill to use? Assault rifles. Doesn't matter how you play, if you spray enough bullets at someone's general direction, they are going to die. The same cannot be said for any other weapon.