I was agreeing with you. I was just drawing attention to the physics-defying engine of EVE. In-lore, we could explain it as this: When you equip armor plates, it comes with additional exoskeletal support, so it doesn't affect you moving normally. However, spending a significant amount of effort to move (i.e. sprinting) is hard with all that load, so that's where your stamina penalty comes from. On a side note, since shields have no drawback (no, they actually don't increase scan profile), do you think a scan profile increase should be added for extenders (5% increase in profile for basic, 7% for enhanced and 10% for complex)?

+1

As I said, even a 5% speed reduction is huge and unacceptable in my opinion.
Try to stand still and see how fast you drop.
The only reason we don't drop in less than a second is because we move.

This.

The other aspect is how little you can jump with plates on. I'm not talking "bunny hop for life" here I'm talking "I walked off a small ledge onto another small ledge and now can't get back up again because I run plates". This also applies to "I got stuck in the invisible quicksand of the terrain and can't get free because I'm unable to jump, since I equipped plates".
A honeycomb skill and/or ("and" would be better) a skill/mod which gives a slight enhancement to jump high, enough to counter some of the plate use, would be great.

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Cross

My problem is that if its just a stamina penalty I can slap two complex plates and and green vial on my scout suit then throw on a proto shield extender and complex dmg mod.

Even at 20% stam penalty I'd be around 500 stam with 300ish armor and almost 200 shields...

Running at 7 meters per second...

My problem is that if its just a stamina penalty I can slap two complex plates and and green vial on my scout suit then throw on a proto shield extender and complex dmg mod.

Even at 20% stam penalty I'd be around 500 stam with 300ish armor and almost 200 shields...

Running at 7 meters per second...

What if it were an across the boards effect? What I mean is a reduction to total and regent with a corollary increase to consumption.

Or as an alternate possibility cut all speed penalties by 50-75%, add an equal stamina penalty for the amount cut, and leave the remainder.

Alternate possibility 3, do as has been suggested elsewhere in this thread and add the armor honeycomb skill. Leave current values as is but with the ability to substantially mitigate the penalty via levels in that skill. This combined with the increased profile effect of running shields (when it's actually implemented) may establish parity.

Alternate possibility 4, add a second verity of Armor Repair mod which repairs at a lower rate but also grants a mitigating effect on the penalties applied by all plates used.


Thoughts, feedback, hurling of fruit?

Cheers,
Cross

My problem is that if its just a stamina penalty I can slap two complex plates and and green vial on my scout suit then throw on a proto shield extender and complex dmg mod.

Even at 20% stam penalty I'd be around 500 stam with 300ish armor and almost 200 shields...

Running at 7 meters per second...

eh. i'm neither here nor there on the matter

Shut up scrub!
You don't play the game enough to judge!
Oh wait, you're my EVE CEO...
Sorry Ave D:

This would work really well IMO.

I totally agree with OP. When i slap some armor on my Logi, i basically feel like a really weak heavy....that's almost as slow. And in terms of Dust, might as well be...

Bump of Armory justice.

Another bump of justice