I beleive this will be changed with uprising. Especially since toons who go Gallante and Amarr will only get armor varient suites (Type 1 at lvl 1, type A at lvl 3 and Vk.0 at level 5) and Caladari and Mnmitar will only get the shield varients. (type -II, Type B and Vk.1.)

To me the major advantage to armor is the ability to stack damage mods without sacrificing the main source of your survivability.

Here are some basic maths

A type-II suit with lvl 5 Field Mechanics and Shield Control skills:

(225 x 1.25) + (105 x 1.25) = 412.5 EHP

A type-I suit:
(125 x 1.25) + (175 x 1.25) = 375 EHP

So not only are they slower, need a module to repair, and have a slower repair rate, but they also have less starting EHP.

The problem here is obvious, type-1 suits suck, they need a buff (along with many other things in the game)

Just 30 more HP would bring it up to type-II EHP levels, I'd suggest 130 shields and 200 armor. I'm also not sure why it has less PG and CPU then the type-II

need a module to repair

Clearly, the only way to balance type 1 with 2 variants is nerfing the type 2 variants

A lot of useless stuff I already know

Yes, we all know that shields regenerate. Yes, we all know that currently shield tanking is the way to go as far as assauilt suits go. But I'm not talking about tanking, or what kind of fitting you have, or what you could possibly do with the suit, I'm talking about the suit itself.

Learn how to shoot straighter?

Don't be a scout?

Exactly, but instead of nerfing Type-II, I think we should buff Type-I to bring it up to par.

There's other things that need a buff as well, like IDK... scout suits, and heavies. Seriously, this game gets flatter every day.

I was agreeing with you, and I wasn't talking about tanking, I was talking about how initial suit parameters of the Type II give it a superior edge because a majority of it's HP can be regenerated, while at the same time allowing it to be a faster suit. I'm saying that the only current method to effectively counter Type II Assault is a flux nade, very well. The severely low armor leaves the Type II suit much more exposed when shields are stripped, making it easier to destroy hence forth.

Kapish!

EDIT: A buff to the Type I is a buff to Assaults which is definitely NOT needed. The Type I is not underpowered, only in relation to a questionably overpowered counterpart, of the same Breed.

buffing the type I assault would leave a huge gap between the assault suits and all other suits imho.

The way I see it, there's two ways of balancing things. Nerfing anything that seems "too good", in this case Type-IIs, or buffing anything that isn't as good, in this case Type-1 Assaults, Scouts and Heavies.

I personally prefer buffing everything else, IMO nerfing only makes the game duller.

The way I see it, there's two ways of balancing things. Nerfing anything that seems "too good", in this case Type-IIs, or buffing anything that isn't as good, in this case Type-1 Assaults, Scouts and Heavies.

I personally prefer buffing everything else, IMO nerfing only makes the game duller.

Buffing some things is a nerf to others. For instance, say you buff every item in the game but one. Wasn't that one item nerfed? Same applies here. You want to buff the Type I, leaving the Type II alone, which is practically nerfing all the other suits by making them weaker in comparison to the whole assault class.

An assaults are UP Thread? Now I've seen it all. Two words big boy; flux nades. I see proto-kids romping around with Vk. 1's and just take out my flux nade MD suit and bam, Type II pot pie.

This isn't a problem with the type I, it's a problem with the Type II. Predominant shields to begin with is what makes the Type II so powerful, meaning you have more HP that can just regenerate. That's a problem I trust will be solved in uprising. It's not that armor tanking is weaker than shield tanking, it's just that within the simplest confines of the suit, having predominant shields is currently greater than predominant armor.

Every dropsuit needs a module to repair.

What he said. If you spend SP to increase a level that unlocks something then you should see a different function of that item. I'm not saying it needs to be superior but it does need to be different. Assault suits are made to kill - it's in the name - and should get a boost from one to two or why else do it. The suits as we know them are balanced about as much as they can be.

All the other suits have a trade off.

The heavy gets less EHP for mobility.

The Logi loses an equipment slot for mobility

I don't remember exactly what the scout does. I think it exchanges a sidearm slot for an equipment slot, but I may be mistaken.

The Assault suits are the only ones where Type-II and correlating variants are straight up better.

The way I see it, there's two ways of balancing things. Nerfing anything that seems "too good", in this case Type-IIs, or buffing anything that isn't as good, in this case Type-1 Assaults, Scouts and Heavies.

I personally prefer buffing everything else, IMO nerfing only makes the game duller.

Doing that would cause people to cry about their suit not being buffed *cough*logi*cough*

Only recently have I started using dropsuits aside from the BPO ones, I decided to purchase a small parcel of Neo A-Types to try them out and I have to say that I am happy with them. It has cause me to decide to start skilling into better dropsuits. So far, I have to admit that I haven't really missed the 3rd Equipment slot on the Type-1 Logi, though I have been putting the Type-2 Logi to a different use.

All in all, I like the idea of each unlock having a different specialization within its role, similar to the specializations within T1 ship classes in Eve.

Logi's are already good, they might even be the best class at prototype level, they don't get to cry.

Our gear costs more than Assaults and Scouts at every single class to do our job, of course we get to cry. Especially since we're always the first target.

When did this become a discussion about heavies and scouts? It is strayed.