That's what everybody else on the forum wants, anyway, to be able to solo Suryas and Sagaris' with militia swarm launchers, so just give them what they want and get rid of tanks completely. I can't make one circuit around a map without half the enemy team magically becoming AV professionals without a prior need (none of my team has LAVs).

Why CCP? Why do you listen to people that want things done their way, which results in the useless of an entire class? Just get rid of tanks already, it'll give you guys less of a headache as well.

Next up on the chopping block, all things heavy-related.

Anybody that whines about tanks has never had the satisfaction of destroying one.
I noticed an increase in tanks, I picked up forge gun skills.
Let the burgesses go back to playing Crawl in Dookie or Farmville.

Like I always say, if you are in a HAV and you can get even 1 person to swap up to a AV weapon, thats a win. If you make 2 people spawn as AV then your doing awesome you can drive away and come out ahead. The more people who come up as AV the less people can shoot at your blues.

Protect the Blues!

Every tool has it's use; you just don't know how to use it.

I usually don't use vehicles but the other day playing OMS I was in a squad with a tank driver. The squad leader put defend order on the tank and 3 of us jumped in and went to town. We got and used 3 orbitals before the end of the match. Tell me how that's useless compared to the average of one OB for infantry? And just imagine when there's 6-man squads that happen to be 2 tanks crews; the sky will never stop falling.

Guns are really OP too, remove guns, CCP

But that's the problem, THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON and so don't kill those that are going AV. If you've come up against at least a decent heavy with a forge gun that knows how to use it for anti-personnel, then you'd know just how difficult it can be to take out a forge gunner, especially if they have a height advantage.

"All men can see these tactics whereby I conquer, but what none can see is the strategy out of which victory is evolved."

~ Sun Tzu

Also, as someone who avidly hates tanks, and has campaigned against them in the past.....yea, they're way too easy to kill until they start really digging deep into their skill set. Even then, the reason you see tanks use such cheap tactics and survive, is because if they try anything else, they die a horribly violent and expensive death.

I personally refrain from any tank based balanced suggestions right now, because I suck at using them, and admit that they're actually pretty easy to kill in many situations.

I still think tanks in ambush is silly though, primarily because having a bunch of AV guys on a small map...yea, that tends to be slaughter....

You make it sound like I don't know what I'm talking about.

I've seen what tanks can and cannot do, and what they cannot do now, even with the best repper, best hardeners and best armor plate, is stand up against militia-grade AV.

Hell, when being a basic logibro was broken, I was one of those exploiting the repair points to spam 6 orbitals in a match

That's what everybody else on the forum wants, anyway, to be able to solo Suryas and Sagaris' with militia swarm launchers, so just give them what they want and get rid of tanks completely. I can't make one circuit around a map without half the enemy team magically becoming AV professionals without a prior need (none of my team has LAVs).

Why CCP? Why do you listen to people that want things done their way, which results in the useless of an entire class? Just get rid of tanks already, it'll give you guys less of a headache as well.

Next up on the chopping block, all things heavy-related.

Next up on the chopping block, all things heavy-related.

Spare us the "everybody else" crap.

You obviously don't if you think tanks are useless in this game.

Then tell me why when using the best modules I can get for my SP, which reduce a quarter of the damage taken to my armor, that militia swarm launchers still take out a ton of my armor. Same thing with militia forge guns. Not everybody has a DCMA or the DAU assault.

This is a good example that you don't know what you're talking about. I use standard + advanced grade AV and even with another AV unit it's hard to take down tanks with the best stuff unless the tank crew are complete morons. I can throw 3 AV grenades at a tank and barely put a dent in it's shields; then it's gone before I get 2 more to chunk at it from the nanohive. Then I either have to chase after it or wait for it to come back around and hope the driver sits still long enough to take it out. With swarm launcher if I'm far away I've got to hope the driver doesn't use the buildings & terrain to block the swarms; if I'm up close I've got to hope I can get a lock before the tank crew sees & kills me.

Well then, I'm sure you'll do great against my tank, because no matter what I do, I continue to get absolutely destroyed no matter what happens.

I don't see how that's relevant.

CCP, I'd like an answer to this question. Does swarm launcher damage ignore any hardeners?

Of course not. Stop QQing. You should Have known that CCP hates armor... Yet I'm guessing you specced into armor tanks...

Lol armor tanks. Also, use passive resists.

Eat cow patties you insufferable simpleton.

Then tell me why when using the best modules I can get for my SP, which reduce a quarter of the damage taken to my armor, that militia swarm launchers still take out a ton of my armor. Same thing with militia forge guns. Not everybody has a DCMA or the DAU assault.

Well then, I'm sure you'll do great against my tank, because no matter what I do, I continue to get absolutely destroyed no matter what happens..