. IMO they should give side the ability the other side fears most and let it play out..

I could see this being a possibility if the cooldown for an orbital was very long, like 15 minutes +. So yeah you can just bring in 10 ships and call in 10 orbitals. But one ship shouldnt be able to rain down orbitals at all. Orbitals should also be expensive, each shot should cost 100K or way more depending on the power of it.

This would make it so it would be expensive as hell to "buy" a win through orbital strikes.

And of course, youd need a boot on the ground to designate targets and Dusties would have to be able to fire back.

Care to explain? Why wouldnt an allied eve corp send 10 ships capable of providing orbital strikes to the planet if they have air supportity, then spend a million ISK to launch 10 strikes which will absolutely turn the tide an easily pay for itself in saved clones/biomass for the alliance?

Or, if no alliance exists, why wouldnt a DUST corp pay 2 million for those strikes, netting the EVE corp 1 million?

Why would this prevent EVE ships from flying?

Or do you mean the ability to fire back? They have already stated that would be part of the shared universe...

I read in some of the forums about people talking about if ships should be able to hit dusties with orbitals from space without any designation. And I see this answer alot. "No because you can't see it, you have to designate"

I don't understand that answer. In EVE you have ships that can scan down a ship that is about 14 AU away so finely they can warp in and get right next to them. (Thats about 2,100,000,000 kilometers or about 1,302,000,000 miles)

Now, if they can scan down a small ship from that distance, I have little doubt that an EVE ship can know exactly where you are on the surface which would only be about 110 km. Don't forget they can also scan the planet and see what minerals are under the ground, the scans even go deep into the ground!



They can see you, they can hit you. And actually alot of weapons in EVE have alot further range then 110KM. Its actually pretty lore breaking to require anything to fry your bacon.

What is the realistic alternative? You just sit there and bombard DUSTIES every 30 seconds for free, absolutely ruining the ground game with no risk?

Even ONE bombardment is a game changer on the ground, and the balance needs to reflect that.

Honestly, in your mind, how did you imagine this would work? If you remove the WP requirements and dont limit the number of bombardments coming in, there is zero reason for anyone to play DUST. Imagine bombardments coming in every 10-30 seconds. How is that a fun game for anyone?

Also on the one hand you talk about how a measeley few million in ISK isnt worth it. But then you complain about it costing a million. So either a million is negligable or its not.

Also, dont forget there are bonuses for EVE players if the district is owned by their alliance. Those bonuses would easily be worth 10-15 minutes of your time every day to keep up and running.

Im all for the eventual transition of Orbitial strikes not requiring WP.

However there needs to be mechanisms on the map that allows defenders to both protect the area from strike and to counter attack with a planetary cannon that can blow up space ships from space.

I want your titans to burn.

This didn't quite cover the most obvious disadvantage to free orbitals- just spamming the enemy spawn with OBs the whole battle.

You have a whole fleet of ships in the sky that can rain down destruction on the planet. What do you do? Well there could be shield batteries, there could be some type of STARS problem for intercepting orbital fire, there could be underground complexes you could build.

What is the realistic alternative? You just sit there and bombard DUSTIES every 30 seconds for free, absolutely ruining the ground game with no risk?

Even ONE bombardment is a game changer on the ground, and the balance needs to reflect that.

Honestly, in your mind, how did you imagine this would work? If you remove the WP requirements and dont limit the number of bombardments coming in, there is zero reason for anyone to play DUST. Imagine bombardments coming in every 10-30 seconds. How is that a fun game for anyone?

Also on the one hand you talk about how a measeley few million in ISK isnt worth it. But then you complain about it costing a million. So either a million is negligable or its not.

Also, dont forget there are bonuses for EVE players if the district is owned by their alliance. Those bonuses would easily be worth 10-15 minutes of your time every day to keep up and running.

another guy ranting without actually reading the blog. they said in the beginning that cooldowns, planetary weapons and no ground intel would make bombarding useless.

I could see this being a possibility if the cooldown for an orbital was very long, like 15 minutes +. So yeah you can just bring in 10 ships and call in 10 orbitals. But one ship shouldnt be able to rain down orbitals at all. Orbitals should also be expensive, each shot should cost 100K or way more depending on the power of it.

This would make it so it would be expensive as hell to "buy" a win through orbital strikes.

And of course, youd need a boot on the ground to designate targets and Dusties would have to be able to fire back.