If I felt I could actually influence you, I would tell you to get your ass out of the mountains and help out on the ground, but I know I can't so I will tell you this:

As long as you have the assault suit you have a sidearm, so if someone sneaks up on you it is possible to defend yourself, but that is basically the only major advantage of the assault suit over the logistics suit as far as sniping is concerned. A logistics suit will end up with more equipment, more mod slots(in high tiers) and a lower signature profile. This lets you carry more ammo to last longer, have more armor(the extra slot is a low slot) and keep enemies from locating you on the Neocom.

I originally spec'd out for the Assault suit, but with the re-spec (I guess?) coming up May 6th I am tempted to go Logi. I can shoot fine in close quarters with a Sniper Rifle, so not really finding a need for a side arm.

My main goal of course is using those high slots for 3 light complex damage modifiers. So for me personally Armor is the preferred defense. With everyone advancing in skills, it is getting harder and harder to kill you'all in one shot, so have I have to focus on killing with speed.

You guys have been great with your opinions, and it highly appreciated

you need the thale sniper its a normal sniper (no-charge) and does 323 damage and with 3 complex damage its like 1hit everything even if over 400 hp

I'm saving those Thales, for when actual start securing planets for FW...

Scout.

Smart man. I have no idea why people blow officer gear in pub games.



I'm not sure if you're serious or just trolling.

Either way, logi snipers are a joke.

But then I found the assault vK0. To me- this is the primo sniper suit. two equipment slots, heavy on the armor, and a sidearm. You can put 2 complex dam mods and use a charged sniper rifle FTW. I put two enhanced profile dampeners on it as well.

A charged can be used in CQC, it just takes practice. I kind of like it, but it's very good to have a backup just in case.

Logi = sniping behind the redline, IMO, solely.

I guess that's why you've been in a training corp for so long...

I'm serious.

By default, they have superior scanning stats and profile dampening- speed and stamina doesn't hurt for getting to where you need to go, either.

Either way, logi snipers are a joke. I've killed enough to know that.

Those superior scanning and profile dampening are incredibly useful... if you're worried about what's within 50 meters of you and whether or not they can see you.

It doesn't make enemies at range easier to spot, it doesn't prevent enemies at range from seeing you. It *might* give you more time to kill someone who went hunting you down, but it won't really help much in the current build. I'd rather have a Logi's extra cpu/pg and equipment slots over what a scout suit gets me.

Traditional snipers are **** anyway- if you're looking for kills, move around the battlefield. Otherwise, only overwatch snipers should be staying on a single perch- and they should also have a shitload of modules to buff scan radius and precision.

Also what is a traditional sniper, traditional being something I see as a subjective term (see Traditional Family Values) and I'd like to know how it differs from an overwatch sniper.

Why?

Wasted CPU/PG imo, should take armor repair and shield extenders before even thinking about radar scanning as it an never get to levels comparable to your line of sight. It's a far more common sight to see an enemy sniper than some Hunter in the Hills. But it depends on map and what kinds of 'nests' are available. Manus Peak? Hell no, get into one of the 7-9 good spots that have a field of view to match the one from a drop ship and keep a wary eye for movement. Skim Junction? All the action is inside the walls anyways.

Also what is a traditional sniper, traditional being something I see as a subjective term (see Traditional Family Values) and I'd like to know how it differs from an overwatch sniper.

All overwatch snipers do is tell their team about enemy movements

All overwatch snipers do is tell their team about enemy movements- they need to be able to see everything.

And the traditional sniper is a douchebag sitting on the same hill the whole battle with the sole intention of getting kills.

I guess that's why you've been in a training corp for so long...

Logi sniper is good. There are advantages and disadvantages to both. And just because you've killed something does not mean it's bad.

"Thales, other officer weapons, Proto suits, and tanks are a joke. I've killed enough to know that."



edit: I forgot to mention that scout is the worst dropsuit for sniping. Just search in the training forums for a bunch of stuff on it. There is plenty explaining why.

it really just comes down to your play style bro ;)

logi snipers are a joke. I've killed enough to know that.

"Thales, other officer weapons, Proto suits, and tanks are a joke. I've killed enough to know that."

I originally spec'd out for the Assault suit, but with the re-spec (I guess?) coming up May 6th I am tempted to go Logi. I can shoot fine in close quarters with a Sniper Rifle, so not really finding a need for a side arm.

My main goal of course is using those high slots for 3 light complex damage modifiers. So for me personally Armor is the preferred defense. With everyone advancing in skills, it is getting harder and harder to kill you'all in one shot, so have I have to focus on killing with speed.

You guys have been great with your opinions, and it highly appreciated

"Thales, other officer weapons, Proto suits, and tanks are a joke. I've killed enough to know that."

Ah, but officer weapons, proto suits, and tanks don't become completely defenseless once any scout who knows what they're doing gets into CQC

I originally spec'd out for the Assault suit, but with the re-spec (I guess?) coming up May 6th I am tempted to go Logi. I can shoot fine in close quarters with a Sniper Rifle, so not really finding a need for a side arm.

My main goal of course is using those high slots for 3 light complex damage modifiers. So for me personally Armor is the preferred defense. With everyone advancing in skills, it is getting harder and harder to kill you'all in one shot, so have I have to focus on killing with speed.

You guys have been great with your opinions, and it highly appreciated

People say the scout is terrible at everything. It wins hands down for one thing above all other suits though - giving yourself a challenge.

I love that quote. Scout dropsuits are loads of fun too.

It also makes me feel bad when I see a good one. They are moving everywhere running, strafing, doing everything. Then I see them, and they see me, and they start bouncing around. I imagine the scout is thinking: LOL I am a scout! I am so fast! U CAN'T TOUCH THIS and then I come in and it's like, LOL I CAN AIM.

Oh yah, another type-A scout dropped by Assault - Frontline

They really need to buff those things -.-

So there's a guy in my corp, Xero, who is pretty good with the scout suit. There was another scout running around who has always given him a run for his money. Before the new patch, Xero started playing around with a type-II assault just to see what would happen. The guy in the scout suit was rocking proto everything, and xero was just in a type-II with a GEK (that's the adv AR). They got into a couple of fights, and xero just dropped the guy like he was a first day player in all MLT gear and xero was in full proto with officer weapons.

I am skeptical that CCP will be able to balance the scout in the next build, and allow it to compete on an equal level with other suits at the proto level. I think they were balanced around the STD/ADV level of gear. The amount of damage that people can put out on the proto level is just so much higher that scouts cannot stand a chance. Especially when the skill levels are factored in, like L5 AR proficiency and the like.

I believe that the limited mod slots also restrict the options that a scout can have. Assault and logi suits can go multiple different ways, the logi being the most versatile in a large part due to higher PG, CPU and 8 mod slots and plenty of equipment slots. Speed does matter a lot, so perhaps a minimatar assault will help to balance things out. If the assault suit was faster with better stamina control than logi, it would probably be better or at the same level as the current proto vk.1 logi dropsuit.

IMO it is bad that there is one suit with the best or second best in almost everything. Even the base stats can be looked at to realize this. Best mod slots? (4/4 check!) Best speed? Comes in second to scout. Best stamina control? (check!) Best CPU/PG for what is required? (check!) Highest number of equipment slots? (check!)

-.-

btw I rage a lot @ the logi suits, but I use them on almost all of my guys, so it's not like I'm angry because I feel as though the suits are better than what I already have. I have everything but heavy, because I hate heavies!

Once your scout tried to nova knife my proto tank. I guess he took your advice and went CQC. Good news is he's no longer in a scout suit, bad news is that he's roadkill.

Keep doing what you're doing. Even though you are a bit far from the fight, you are a huge thorn in my team's side whenever I am against you, and difficult to find even with three coordinated snippers looking for you.

Don't know who that is directed too....But to whomever, that's a really nice compliment

But first thing I personally do is scan the horizon and look for stationary targets...Follow the terrain like you are outlining it with a pen. Then Once there are no orange dots popping up on the out line, start to take out targets of opportunity. Starting with the ones which are far from any close cover in which they can seek sanctuary .

Beware the Decoy...That usually some really greasy fast scout running top speed across a field in the open. Trying to draw out the snipers for the anti-sniper crew to eat up

Repeat and Rinse every few moments

However now that all the Suits are changing racial, after the update.... I will be curious is any of the new bonuses will change our sniper suit layouts much?

I'm serious.

By default, they have superior scanning stats and profile dampening- speed and stamina doesn't hurt for getting to where you need to go, either.

Either way, logi snipers are a joke. I've killed enough to know that.

And I believe the Answer Shall be:


AMARR LOGI