DUST Search - Age old Question for a Sniper Assault or Logi?

0 Try Harder wrote:

Matticus Monk wrote:

People say the scout is terrible at everything. It wins hands down for one thing above all other suits though - giving yourself a challenge.

I love that quote. Scout dropsuits are loads of fun too.

It also makes me feel bad when I see a good one. They are moving everywhere running, strafing, doing everything. Then I see them, and they see me, and they start bouncing around. I imagine the scout is thinking: LOL I am a scout! I am so fast! U CAN'T TOUCH THIS and then I come in and it's like, LOL I CAN AIM.

Oh yah, another type-A scout dropped by Assault - Frontline

They really need to buff those things -.-

So there's a guy in my corp, Xero, who is pretty good with the scout suit. There was another scout running around who has always given him a run for his money. Before the new patch, Xero started playing around with a type-II assault just to see what would happen. The guy in the scout suit was rocking proto everything, and xero was just in a type-II with a GEK (that's the adv AR). They got into a couple of fights, and xero just dropped the guy like he was a first day player in all MLT gear and xero was in full proto with officer weapons.

I am skeptical that CCP will be able to balance the scout in the next build, and allow it to compete on an equal level with other suits at the proto level. I think they were balanced around the STD/ADV level of gear. The amount of damage that people can put out on the proto level is just so much higher that scouts cannot stand a chance. Especially when the skill levels are factored in, like L5 AR proficiency and the like.

I believe that the limited mod slots also restrict the options that a scout can have. Assault and logi suits can go multiple different ways, the logi being the most versatile in a large part due to higher PG, CPU and 8 mod slots and plenty of equipment slots. Speed does matter a lot, so perhaps a minimatar assault will help to balance things out. If the assault suit was faster with better stamina control than logi, it would probably be better or at the same level as the current proto vk.1 logi dropsuit.

IMO it is bad that there is one suit with the best or second best in almost everything. Even the base stats can be looked at to realize this. Best mod slots? (4/4 check!) Best speed? Comes in second to scout. Best stamina control? (check!) Best CPU/PG for what is required? (check!) Highest number of equipment slots? (check!)

-.-

btw I rage a lot @ the logi suits, but I use them on almost all of my guys, so it's not like I'm angry because I feel as though the suits are better than what I already have. I have everything but heavy, because I hate heavies!


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Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 20	Posted - 2013.04.23 10:09:00 - [1] - Quote Poison Prey wrote: I originally spec'd out for the Assault suit, but with the re-spec (I guess?) coming up May 6th I am tempted to go Logi. I can shoot fine in close quarters with a Sniper Rifle, so not really finding a need for a side arm. My main goal of course is using those high slots for 3 light complex damage modifiers. So for me personally Armor is the preferred defense. With everyone advancing in skills, it is getting harder and harder to kill you'all in one shot, so have I have to focus on killing with speed. You guys have been great with your opinions, and it highly appreciated As others have mentioned it depends on your playstyle. Many endorse the Logi as sniper... I have tried it and found for sniping the lack of a sidearm is a killer. Eventhough you say you can shoot fine in CQC w/ the rifle, consider it's not just about aim but in a bad situation where someone sneaks up on you (or more than one person mob you) it's about reload time, number of shots in the clip, and rate of fire. If you engage more than one opponent or even one at a bad time (less than 3-5 rnds in the clip) you may be wishing for that sidearm. Personally I'd go w/ Assault for armor, mobility, slots.... (proto to get nanohives and drop in one suit) unless you stay on the redline as others have mentioned and thereby negate your need for a sidearm or at least maximize your chances of only facing a minimal number of opponents. Actually, really personally I'd go for scout proto. Almost same number of slots, more mobility, better scan precision and range to help you avoid people sneaking up on you. People say the scout is terrible at everything. It wins hands down for one thing above all other suits though - giving yourself a challenge. (I recall seeing you in various matches, BTW - I enjoy going against you)
Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 22	Posted - 2013.04.24 07:52:00 - [2] - Quote 0 Try Harder wrote: Matticus Monk wrote: People say the scout is terrible at everything. It wins hands down for one thing above all other suits though - giving yourself a challenge. I love that quote. Scout dropsuits are loads of fun too. It also makes me feel bad when I see a good one. They are moving everywhere running, strafing, doing everything. Then I see them, and they see me, and they start bouncing around. I imagine the scout is thinking: LOL I am a scout! I am so fast! U CAN'T TOUCH THIS and then I come in and it's like, LOL I CAN AIM. Oh yah, another type-A scout dropped by Assault - Frontline They really need to buff those things -.- So there's a guy in my corp, Xero, who is pretty good with the scout suit. There was another scout running around who has always given him a run for his money. Before the new patch, Xero started playing around with a type-II assault just to see what would happen. The guy in the scout suit was rocking proto everything, and xero was just in a type-II with a GEK (that's the adv AR). They got into a couple of fights, and xero just dropped the guy like he was a first day player in all MLT gear and xero was in full proto with officer weapons. I am skeptical that CCP will be able to balance the scout in the next build, and allow it to compete on an equal level with other suits at the proto level. I think they were balanced around the STD/ADV level of gear. The amount of damage that people can put out on the proto level is just so much higher that scouts cannot stand a chance. Especially when the skill levels are factored in, like L5 AR proficiency and the like. I believe that the limited mod slots also restrict the options that a scout can have. Assault and logi suits can go multiple different ways, the logi being the most versatile in a large part due to higher PG, CPU and 8 mod slots and plenty of equipment slots. Speed does matter a lot, so perhaps a minimatar assault will help to balance things out. If the assault suit was faster with better stamina control than logi, it would probably be better or at the same level as the current proto vk.1 logi dropsuit. IMO it is bad that there is one suit with the best or second best in almost everything. Even the base stats can be looked at to realize this. Best mod slots? (4/4 check!) Best speed? Comes in second to scout. Best stamina control? (check!) Best CPU/PG for what is required? (check!) Highest number of equipment slots? (check!) -.- btw I rage a lot @ the logi suits, but I use them on almost all of my guys, so it's not like I'm angry because I feel as though the suits are better than what I already have. I have everything but heavy, because I hate heavies!