Well...ahhhh.... that might be a problem.

The Imperfects also want Hedaleolfarber III. Maybe we can make some arrangement like renting space... etc. If not see you on the battlefield.

BTW I am always open for suggestion, so suggest away.

ReGnYuM
Destroyer of Worlds/ Leader of Imperfect A Team
Director of Public Relations

Loling that this region is likely not going to be it and that ccp is purposely trolling people away from the real region.

Loling that this region is likely not going to be it and that ccp is purposely trolling people away from the real region.

And thus was born The Dojo Planet, as it would be known for ages since.

Because no one could say Hedaleolfarber anyway.

well apparently foxfour got angry and said CCP could change the region anytime when he heard over irc that vaerana had found the region.

Nothing wrong with claiming a planet and remaining neutral. The Swiss have had territory for a very long time and are always neutral. Don't let the naysayers get ya. Anyways Dust Uni has like 700 people, I'm sure they can hold it.




That doesn't sound very nice.

Numbers are. Nowhere near as important in dust as they are in eve.

I don't see how you can remain a neutral entity and claim a planet. Those two things seem mutually exclusive.

If you want to be like EVE Uni, just ask corps who own Districts to give lectures about them or lead squads into battle on uni sponsored contracts.

Instead of claiming stuff with a Holier than thou attitude.

seems like dust uni just want things handed over to them, which makes me sad, as that is not in the spirit of the eve universe or the eve university.

In the 16v16 you are correct, however numbers also mean more $$ which means they can buy more clone packs, field better gear and pay people to kill whoever messes with them.

In the 16v16 you are correct, however numbers also mean more $$ which means they can buy more clone packs, field better gear and pay people to kill whoever messes with them.

Just because you can buy more clones, and better gear with you still does note an you'll win.

>.>

<.<

Our stance is neutral because we targeting a specific district sans politics. We have an objective. We will attempt to accomplish it..

If that involves throwing isk at the problem I'll let the CEO make the decision.

Congrats to DUST Uni for building castles in the sandbox.

Every sandbox has its bullies who believe it to be thier sole purpose to tear down castles built by others.

But we all knew that when Mommy dropped us off in this box.

I wholeheartedly support DUST Uni ( and any other community growth focused organizations') attempts to create something other than sand.

We will attempt to take it back and if unsuccessful move on to other plans.

This doesn't look right, DustUni from what I understand is about learning. I don't know about you, but the fastest way I learn is to get my teeth kicked in again and again and again. I don't like playing decent players. If I'm a newbie I wanna play the best guy ever and let him do hideous things to me.

Never give up, never surrender. If they take your district, then attack it another 365 times this year lol

[Edit]: Plus, hey, its your job to learn, what have you got to lose by throwing away clones, but if you keep attacking whoever takes it then I'm sure they will eventually get fed up they never make any ISK because you keep attacking them and eventually give it to you.

The more I hear about Imperfects the less I like them.

Wow picking fights with a training corp.

I'm sure your elite A team will make quick work of the new players. Real tough of the imperfects.

Wow picking fights with a training corp.

I'm sure your elite A team will make quick work of the new players. Real tough of the imperfects.

@Dust UNI I am sure an arrangement over this petty matter can be made. If you would like to talk more in private here is my email.

[email protected]

Aka, instead of utilizing their skill, they'd rather pick on newer players to keep their KDR up.

Lmao, Imperfect indeed

Wow picking fights with a training corp.

And thus was born The Dojo Planet, as it would be known for ages since.

Because no one could say Hedaleolfarber anyway.

God dammit hes not even in the alliance, much less imperfects

Why does he get you guys EVERY time! Its maddening!

Just watching him steal your trix every time......

none of his statements are to be taken as fact

God dammit hes not even in the alliance, much less imperfects

Why does he get you guys EVERY time! Its maddening!

Just watching him steal your trix every time......

none of his statements are to be taken as fact

Correction, The Bojo Planet

God dammit hes not even in the alliance, much less imperfects

Why does he get you guys EVERY time! Its maddening!

Just watching him steal your trix every time......

none of his statements are to be taken as fact

If you are serious on a nickname; The Molden Training Grounds

If you are serious on a nickname; The Molden Training Grounds

That depends...Does that mean you're in?

But yeah...I like Modlen Training Grounds...little more home sweet home feel to it...

Firstly, never once did I state nor declare a attack on Dust UNI. However if agreement is not made soon, things might escalate.

Furthermore, we would never send our A-team against Dust UNI or even your Corp. Its not worth the time or the effort of our A-Team.


@Dust UNI I am sure an arrangement over this petty matter can be made. If you would like to talk more in private here is my email.

[email protected]


ReGnYuM
Destroyer of Worlds/ Leader of Imperfect A Team
Director of Public Relations

An alternative name is Campus of Heath
Also, here's Vaerana's Image of the planet in question: http://i.imgur.com/M4Yvt1E.jpg

An alternative name is Campus of Heath
Also, here's Vaerana's Image of the planet in question: http://i.imgur.com/M4Yvt1E.jpg

You sure you wouldn't send your A-team? Because that day care corp Internal Error has lost to HellStorm 3 times already. That is where you stick your B-team isn't it? Also your corp was so desperate to battle us then suddenly the desire disappeared when we were ready. Scheduling became an issue, or even better suddenly we weren't worth it.

" Its not worth the time or the effort of our A-Team." #cocky/dodging/carebear

Dust University doesn't need to make a deal with a bunch of imps. They've done a good job at painting a target on themselves. Your arrogance has made you lose before the game even started.

Actual corp battles Sota ? :]

I'm not trying to bash your corp, it's just funny seeing an imp to keep threatening a starter corp like dust uni.

It's like really? You want to bully a starter corp into paying you rent. It's a coward and pathetic thing to do.

haha - he's just trolling. A lot of us support Dust U and what they're doing. Though extorting corps will probably be something we'll be doing lolol

I'm not trying to bash your corp, it's just funny seeing an imp to keep threatening a starter corp like dust uni.

It's like really? You want to bully a starter corp into paying you rent. It's a coward and pathetic thing to do.

who will actually pay u? lol
#justcurious

You mean its the New Eden thing to do, now HTFU, if you feel that strongly about it however you can always volunteer to protect Planet ED.

Probably the goons or some rich troll lol

Bacon logic is logic beyond logic - a logic of the gods that bends all to it's will.

Leader of Imperfect A Team

goons are already payin u
im talkin about the corps u "extort" who will actually pay? lol

What happens when frieza comes along?

I think you'll have some stiff competition from EoN and CRONOS.

They all will or lose there planets lol

Imperfects/I.E. are setting themselves up to be the Saiyans of EvE. And Goku and Freeza ain't here peoples ;D

We do have a vegeta though *Looks at regnum*

I can only hope tbh. They seem more interested in collecting clone goo then anything.

u do realise ur not big enough to hold every single district right?

Bojo Proposes that a census should occur.

In all honesty, goons aside, who will attack Hedaleolfarber III even when it is known that DUNI and BSOTT seek a stake there?

As soon as we flip a district in our favor or planet we hand it over to the highest bidder. No reason to come fight us for a planet if we'll just sell it to you.

And you cannot take planets without first purchasing clones or as the forum goers call it "Clone goo." And it costs quiet a penny I hear. I expect the other top alliances won't want to mess with a group of guys who'd destroy there clone count and effectively weakening them in offense and defense.

goons are already payin u
im talkin about the corps u "extort" who will actually pay? lol

Us. Give us credit for your accomplishments as well as protection ISK and everythings cool

Legit question time:

1. then they just come and take it back
2. what makes u think some ppl will have the ISK to pay for a planet?
3. what if no one pays? ur stuck with a planet/s u cant defend effectively handing control back to someone that wants it
4. Whats stoppin everyone else from taking u off the map? thus making u have to buy clone goo

PS: boredom is a hell of a thing

Now this is a good read. Finally a reason to fight each other. Can I call my self Professor Taste if we do in fact have to acquire this university planet?

Why should they pay u protection ISK when no one is gonna attack them?

Sure, but I was thinking about attacking it on my own (as a corp I mean). But you can still be called Professor Taste.

Seems you and me thought on the same page. I asked all this as well and got these responses:
1) Clones aren't cheap, if they want to throw themselves away rather then go else where that's there call.
2 & 3) Everybody wants a planet lol but if by chance no one wants the particular planet we take - we move on.
4) No one can stop us from reviving constantly. If your alliance, by some chance, wins at taking us out of one areas - we'll just spawn and do it over somewhere else. It would take a real cool effort too and the Imps strategy is somewhat getting people together against them, otherwise they'd of joined an alliance rather then make one.

Boredom is a hell of a thing - and imps are constantly bored lol

Hope that answers your questions and I don't get in trouble with my leadership xD

Cause we will?

Well I'm not really game for some extortion, considering clones already cost so much.

then thats extortion not protection
need to get yo Mafia slang right yo

We'll keep it reasonably priced I bet. Plus some of us may volunteer to help teach around your planet. You'd be making more ISK if you had more people flocking to be taught by you guys *hint*

We'll keep it reasonably priced I bet. Plus some of us may volunteer to help teach around your planet. You'd be making more ISK if you had more people flocking to be taught by you guys *hint*

But you see, I give ISK in the school, I don't earn ISK from the school. That's why I started my pet project.

But you see, I give ISK in the school, I don't earn ISK from the school. That's why I started my pet project.

idk how ur teaching is but if i was bojo id ask for a receipt and signed contract where i can get a refund cuz yall have had some bad apples/lolcorphoppers/lolkids come out IMPSwarm

besides Zitros rates are too high, have u seen the price on his book?? >.>

i srsly hope u arent actually considering paying extortion money for a service ur providing to actually make blue dots better which in turn makes the god awful randoms better which in turn means more competition and fun for everyone

Dean ReGnUM
Professor Taste
Janitor Sota Pop
Who is the lunch lady?

TBH Mavado I'd want this backwords. Imp collaborating with Bojo to protect his world and help him in exchange get some ISK thrown our way. As it stands he'd have no protection from any corp who doesn't understand his purpose or use the forums.

actually he will have protection cuz im sure everyone in the community supports both D-UNI and Bojo without having to make ISK demands

only ppl that dont know of D-UNI and Bojo purpose would be the little guys who prob irrelevant and not even on forums and im positive if ppl see some nobody trying to disrupt what they plan to do they will lend assistance and prob free too

Awesome - then you guys can pay the extortion bill for them.

why would i pay?

Business model?

Ever heard of the term non-profit?

Though I like the idea of Dust Univ. having a planet I feel you have done your statement in the wrong way. We agree you should have a planet, as by you stating the community agrees you should. But we did not vote on which planet you get. There are going to be a finite number of planets at the beginning of the build. If there were tons of planets out there then have at it. Right now there are quite a few corps wanting planets so what your saying is we should wait not you.

WHat are the tactical advantages to this planet? If there are any should we really waste that tactical advantage on a school? Why do you want this specific planet? You didn't wait for PC to be deployed and then see which planet no one really wants. You just proclaimed a planet and expected all of us to just let you have. Yes I know you will defend and retake, yada, yada, yada. How many districts are on this planet? Should you not take the planet with the least amount of districts as to not be affecting our non neutral corps PC ambitions. Also why do you need a whole planet. Can you not do the teaching that needs to be done with one district?

To me it sounds like your saying this is where we are going to be and deal with it. That doesn't sound neutral. Neutral would be we will see which planet holds the least tactical advantage and has the least districts as to not get in the way of the real game since we are not really playing PC we are just showing people the ropes.

I hope no one is taking me seriously about extorting these guys. It's quiet the opposite - they have my full support.

Can't speak for my alliance though.

...Can this be moved to war room, please...

And thus was born The Dojo Planet, as it would be known for ages since.

Because no one could say Hedaleolfarber anyway.

Where were you when Vaerana Myshtana (look up what corp he's in BTW) discovered that Molden Heath, is the fitting region with the clues the devs gave him? Where were you when the whole community was engaged in the same thread that DUNI was making remarks on viable planets for this?

The whole how many districts is OP yada yada, we need a footing and one to get students experienced. BSOTT will be taking minimal districts I hope (2 or 3 Max), one for campus (clone stuff) and the other will be contested for training. We need a whole planet because we know that corps with a footing on the same planet are more likely to abuse the lack of travel to attack and conquer the whole planet.

The advantage of holding districts is also economical. Clone money!

But I thought it was a non profit organization? If you are producing clones and not being attacked or attacking then you are just piling up ISK. As far as where I was, taking a dump maybe I don't know. I'm just saying if there were tons of planets out there it would be fine, do what you will. But there are not there will a small finite amount. So if there is a small corp out there that has been eyeing or stratagizing the planet in the war plan shouldn't they be able to take that planet without looking like the guys picking on "school kids"? I think what you guys are doing is great! Teach new players, show them the ropes, make better and more informed players. I just feel maybe the schools should wait till there is a little more room in the galaxy for a school planet.

The non for profit is true. But Clone money means that we can become sustainable and liberal/more generous and our students can have optimum "I'm broke cuz I be learning" support.

Also, BSOTT does not share DUNI's neutrality beliefs, for the record, which we both have accepted.

That last half sounds almost like other corps "deserve" this planet more then we do. Whether that's true or not, opinionated or not, take a look at Molden heath:
http://i.imgur.com/K9l1FyR.jpg
I counted 249 districts (please forgive any human error)
That's plenty to go around. The planet we want has 12, and we might not even take all 12.

But you are saying you "deserve" these districts.

I'm saying we're going to take those districts for the best of our interests, and if you like our interests it's an FYI.

And if you don't you now know where they are and can be relaxed with the fact they probably couldn't hold there own if attacked.

The beauty of attacking a training corp: easy & controversy. With your easy victory comes frowny faces.

well apparently foxfour got angry and said CCP could change the region anytime when he heard over irc that vaerana had found the region.

The Imperfects also want Hedaleolfarber III. Maybe we can make some arrangement like renting space... etc. If not see you on the battlefield.

I wasn't trying to make anyone angry, I'm just super curious.

Maybe I should send him those hobbit foot slippers. I heard that someone stole his shoes.

On that related matter...

AB and MWD in the same fit? Overkill for Sisi don't you think?

Imperfects/I.E. are setting themselves up to be the Saiyans of EvE. And Goku and Freeza ain't here peoples ;D

We do have a vegeta though *Looks at regnum*

Is this about that crappily-animated show where guys challenge each other to endless staring contests involving dragons' balls?

Just curious.

I prefer my Godzilla metaphors, personally.

Is this about that crappily-animated show where guys challenge each other to endless staring contests involving dragons' balls?

Just curious.

I prefer my Godzilla metaphors, personally.

Who doesn't like dragon balls.

Is this about that crappily-animated show where guys challenge each other to endless staring contests involving dragons' balls?

Just curious.

I prefer my Godzilla metaphors, personally.

Though I like the idea of Dust Univ. having a planet I feel you have done your statement in the wrong way. We agree you should have a planet, as by you stating the community agrees you should. But we did not vote on which planet you get. There are going to be a finite number of planets at the beginning of the build. If there were tons of planets out there then have at it. Right now there are quite a few corps wanting planets so what your saying is we should wait not you.

WHat are the tactical advantages to this planet? If there are any should we really waste that tactical advantage on a school? Why do you want this specific planet? You didn't wait for PC to be deployed and then see which planet no one really wants. You just proclaimed a planet and expected all of us to just let you have. Yes I know you will defend and retake, yada, yada, yada. How many districts are on this planet? Should you not take the planet with the least amount of districts as to not be affecting our non neutral corps PC ambitions. Also why do you need a whole planet. Can you not do the teaching that needs to be done with one district?

To me it sounds like your saying this is where we are going to be and deal with it. That doesn't sound neutral. Neutral would be we will see which planet holds the least tactical advantage and has the least districts as to not get in the way of the real game since we are not really playing PC we are just showing people the ropes.

He came into IRC and called us all a word that the forums won't let me use.

And if you don't you now know where they are and can be relaxed with the fact they probably couldn't hold there own if attacked.

CCP has given noob and inexp players a game mode where they can exp corp battles. It's called faction warfare. End of discussion.

I like Dust-Uni and what they stand for, plus I would like to see them have the ability to teach many about PC. TCD will help with Troop support if you are ever in need of it Dust-Uni and I encourage other Corps to do the same.

No thanks, but you can pay us not to attack it on their behalf if you like.

still trying to figure out why would ppl pay u

still trying to figure out why would ppl pay u

because they want there academy safe and sound and not ablaze with Imp cannons and infantry. Or they could use there clone goo and come at us - we like that too.

Zion > What the noodle! We were in the same alliance bra!
Gunner > Are the Imps broke? First I see a thread from one worrying about Clone prices, and now you guys are trying to extort money...you can't field any clones at all can you?
Mav > No one would pay them

hope this isnt the mindset of everyone in NF lol
i mean ya they came out wrong saying they claim X planet, should of asked where they could setup and not just call dibs on a system so i guess my question is are u just planning to atk them because of the system or even if it wasnt that system u would still attack them?

there is always reasons to pay us mavado.

Imps, you can only extort one school. Which is it going to be?

Ok let's change the subject.

This planet needs to have Bacon factories. Lots of it.

Says who? but if I had to choose DustU cause I like you more

Ego: +10

If you still plan to take districts it might be a good idea to give regnum isk. As long as he feels like he beat you, he wont have the need to take your districts then sell them back to you.

What is this...? I... I... don't know!

What am I to make of this... this preemptive planetary claim... This pseudo-formal public service announcement declaring exemption from being attacked and worse, this optimistic delusion that other corps may actually comply... Such an unrealistic expectation in a video game! Laughable even!

It actually makes me want to try to take their planet...

Oh well, I am only one bunny of many in my corp and I can't ever accomplish such a thing on my own, but if I ever had to attack your planet to claim it, I'd be cracking up the entire time thinking back to the day I read this...

Imps, you can only extort one school. Which is it going to be?

Well since you worked so hard to find the PC starting area, we may even consider giving you a piece of the extortion if you play your cards right.


Besides i always wanted to donate my large endowment, but i want naming rights

Well since you worked so hard to find the PC starting area, we may even consider giving you a piece of the extortion if you play your cards right.


Besides i always wanted to donate my large endowment, but i want naming rights

Would be the strangest thing ever if Imps forced the academies to submit to them then ended up paying them instead and offer them training and exercises in there groups, lol.

I was going to propose a treaty first, but DUNI beat me to the whole announcement thing and now your comment was inevitable. Also I'm still grateful for riding in our Doped Taxi of Speed and Death

You know what, I will help you take over this planet you seek

Dean ReGnUM
Professor Taste
Janitor Sota Pop
Who is the lunch lady?

I demand a Public Forum apology or your resignation .

2 ton there is only room for 1 honest dude in imps and thats kain. unreal has spots open if you want to suck at forum pvp

The Dust 514 forum markets have been flooded with Bullshit lately, the Bullshit market has crashed as a result and I am liquidating toxic Bullshit assets

Once the price and quality of bullshit has been restored and supply and demand of bullshit normalized I will open the bullshit back up to the public sector

Sadly for now, you gotta sell bullshit somewhere else as we are all stocked up here

See what I did there?

You sound constipated lol

Dean ReGnUM
Professor Taste
Janitor Sota Pop
Who is the lunch lady?

In the 16v16 you are correct, however numbers also mean more $$ which means they can buy more clone packs, field better gear and pay people to kill whoever messes with them.

Besides i always wanted to donate my large endowment, but i want naming rights

Anyways, I am with Sota Pop on this one, I would rather pick attacking Dust University over Bojo's School Of The Trades personally.

Not to throw out some crazy logic or anything but,.... why doesn't Imp just plant their D team on Bojo III as the "aggressor" third party campus that can be used as the combat force for both schools?

This way the noobs get training, get to say they were face stomped by Imps, and all parties enjoy the ISK benefits of a school setting. Also, this would be a nearly constant boredom alleviation for the Imps. And they have clearly stated they suffer from extreme boredom induced insanity.

Imps could even play it off as they "extorted" a presence on the planet, and are "pressuring" the schools with a "hostile" presence. Everyone's happy, and the schools can use the added assistance of the conglomerate of Imp if any other corp attempts to rout the planet.


Or am I assuming too much altruism in New Eden?

Not to throw out some crazy logic or anything but,.... why doesn't Imp just plant their D team on Bojo III as the "aggressor" third party campus that can be used as the combat force for both schools?

This way the noobs get training, get to say they were face stomped by Imps, and all parties enjoy the ISK benefits of a school setting. Also, this would be a nearly constant boredom alleviation for the Imps. And they have clearly stated they suffer from extreme boredom induced insanity.

Imps could even play it off as they "extorted" a presence on the planet, and are "pressuring" the schools with a "hostile" presence. Everyone's happy, and the schools can use the added assistance of the conglomerate of Imp if any other corp attempts to rout the planet.


Or am I assuming too much altruism in New Eden?

there is always reasons to pay us mavado.

Bojo III

...I just couldn't resist giving SoTa PoP his 2,000th like....

Would be the strangest thing ever if Imps forced the academies to submit to them then ended up paying them instead and offer them training and exercises in there groups, lol.

i wonder if EVE Uni will setup a lowsec camp over this place, could be an interesting twist for everyone talking about it

i wonder if EVE Uni will setup a lowsec camp over this place, could be an interesting twist for everyone talking about it

Good Luck with said plan when we will be confined to one region with several power blocks already formed.

Remember Jaiden, the CEO maybe be willing to "throw isk at the problem" in order to attain that territory.

If that's the case, PFBHz will be more than happy to slap down anyone trying to ruin Dust Uni's sand castle.... for a price.

What gives all of you the right to claim territory that already belongs to Rotaine Shipping Inc? We called dibs on everything before dibs was even a word. I'll prob be out of town on bidnass in may, but I expect you will all do the right thing and leave my planets unoccupied until I return in June. If not, come July there will be serious repercussions for your treachery.

The moral of the story is that eve uni doesn't make competent pilots in any sense. Its hard to expect anything more from Dust Uni.

Bojo and Dust Uni, please send mails in-game to Kane Spero with your email and Skype contacts at your earliest convenience.

I suspect a lot of mercenary corps are the same. I know that the MSF would be interested in defense contracts if Dust Uni has the ISK :)

What exactly is the significance of this particular planet? If IE wants it why not take a different one?

Bojo and Dust Uni, please send mails in-game to Kane Spero with your email and Skype contacts at your earliest convenience.

For a small fee of 0.5 million ISK would you be interested in trying your hand at knocking down Imperfect* clones? D-Uni could offer this public service to the larger community. We buy the clones and supply the squad leaders, and anyone with an inclination and a little ISK gets to grief the Imperfects*.

Personally, I had hoped to see Dust Uni work a little more diplomatically on this, because in the absence of another school, I thought it made a lot of sense to try and get some other "adjunct professor" corps on the planet.

Maybe that ship has sailed, but I think it would be helpful to have some of the kaiju corps (who support our shared mission) on planet as another source of skilled fighters.

I mean, sure, we can fight the DU guys in our ways, but it would be nice to have some variety.

To my mind, the thing that is essential is that we achieve a coalition that polices the campus vs. battle district thing, makes sure that the battle districts are constantly changing hands... and holds the colleges accountable for performing their mission.

You're implying that a team of scrubs can kill a well organized team? You're definitely not going to be hiring any good players for that crap amount of ISK.

I'm just saying because although you might be able to corner, zerg, or kill some blue dots as you play against four man squad does not mean that you can do it against a well organized team. There have been a number of corp battles where one side loses at most one or two clones while red lining the opposing eight man team. Even a thale or proto forge cannot do anything against a wall of HAVs with logi support vehicles backing them up.

Depending on prices and everything, I'd say you're not going to get a decent corp to fight the Imperfects for under 400 million ISK for a victory, and 200 million ISK for a loss. That is at current market prices for a 16v16 battle only.

I believe most people do not truly understand the amount of ISK that can be lost in one match. Once you factor in additional things, like clones on top of it, you're looking at extremely expensive battles.

You made some interesting points

We're still going to F*** YOU UP

Or you'll die trying. You know which one I'm predicting, paper tiger.

Dean ReGnUM
Professor Taste
Janitor Sota Pop
Who is the lunch lady?

Not to throw out some crazy logic or anything but,.... why doesn't Imp just plant their D team on Bojo III as the "aggressor" third party campus that can be used as the combat force for both schools?

This way the noobs get training, get to say they were face stomped by Imps, and all parties enjoy the ISK benefits of a school setting. Also, this would be a nearly constant boredom alleviation for the Imps. And they have clearly stated they suffer from extreme boredom induced insanity.

Imps could even play it off as they "extorted" a presence on the planet, and are "pressuring" the schools with a "hostile" presence. Everyone's happy, and the schools can use the added assistance of the conglomerate of Imp if any other corp attempts to rout the planet.


Or am I assuming too much altruism in New Eden?

Eve uni set up a low sec camp in molden heath last year. At the time, molden heath actually had a functional ecosystem for small gang warfare. Uni popped up and tried to blob all the small gang pirates and destroy the good fights.

A corp called the Hatchery, which is from the teamliquid.net community took great offense to them shitting over good pvp and came back to their ancestral home of molden heath to help save the locals.

It led to quite a bit of hijinks which inevitably saw fleets of 30-40 eve uni pilots being camped into being permadocked by massive fleets of 2-4 guys. The killboard went so bad for eve uni that they weren't allowed to undock without permission from an fc and even then the fights were so one sided that they quickly picked up and left in complete embarrassment.

The moral of the story is that eve uni doesn't make competent pilots in any sense. Its hard to expect anything more from Dust Uni.

I try not to post on these forums, but this topic is so appalling I just can't resist.

There's a lot to say about these two corps calling dibs on something that doesn't even exist, about the neutrality claim, about the veiled and open threats from the two schools over something that they already believe belongs to them. But I'm not going to talk about that. I want to talk about their claim to transparency and their choice of planet.

They say Hedaleolfarber III was chosen because it has low strategic//economic value. This is outright ridiculous.

Strategic value - It's location in a little cul-de-sac, away from the main action, makes it the perfect spot to post up away from the main fighting, and stockpile ISK/clones, while being in relative safety from outside attack. Then once enough ISK/clones are stockpiled, its the perfect planet to expand from, simply because your main ISK/clone-making base is protected. If the expansion goes well, great. If it goes badly, you can just retreat back to Hedaleolfarber III and start the stockpiling process all over again. So this planet has probably one of the HIGHEST strategic values for that reason. If you think about it, Hedaleolfarber III is like Australia in the classic version of the Risk board-game.

Economic value - It doesn't matter whether Hedaleolfarber III has a few moons or a million of them. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the number of moons has absolutely zero impact on what happens in DUST. And the ownership of districts does not have any impact on how EVE pilots interact with these moons. Those two systems are just not connected in the Uprising build. What is important about Hedaleolfarber III is that because of its isolation, it's less likely to be attacked. Meaning, it's much easier to stockpile ISK/clones there in relative safety. So whoever holds Hedaleolfarber III during Uprising will likely be making money hand over fist. That's at least 3 months! Therefore the economic value of Hedaleolfarber III is actually VERY HIGH.

So now that we have established that Hedaleolfarber III is actually a prime piece of real estate, lets talk about the transparency that these schools are claiming. When they say "We want Hedaleolfarber III because its the worst planet, we're just being transparent," thats not being transparent. That's called trying to deceive/manipulate people to get what you want. The only other possibility is that whoever is making decisions on this honestly believes what they are saying, but is just too stupid to understand that Hedaleolfarber III is actually an amazing base for ANY corporation.

So my question to the two schools is, which one is it? Are you straight up trying to fool everyone? Or do you just not understand the big picture?