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Alcare Xavier Golden
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.04.10 13:00:00 -
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DUST University Press Release: Hedaleolfarber III Claimed as Academic Planet
With reports that planetary conflicts have spread to the region of Molden Heath, board members of DUST University have unanimously voted in favor of staking claim to Hedaleolfarber III as an academic planet. Extending their hand in mutual cooperation to other academic corporations, such as BojoGÇÖs School of the Trades, the university is asking them to join in the endeavor to bring premium education to the newest warriors across New Eden. As tensions between the assorted factions escalate, the demand for trained mercenary forces will only increase. DUST University, and corporations of like mind, strives to meet this demand in earnest!
DUST University, in conjunction with other education corps, plans to stake claim to the planet. Each school will claim an equal number of sovereign districts totaling one to three districts. The remaining unclaimed districts on the planet will be used for training matches between the academic corps to fine tune potential graduates in the specifics of planetary conquest. Additionally, other corps may be invited to participate in training at the non-sovereign districts.
The university will remain neutral in all engagements. We will not seek out to conquer additional planetary districts without the owning corporationGÇÖs consent as part of a training exercise. If DUST University does win a district as part of these training exercises the district will be returned to the original owner.
DUST University reserves the right to defend their districts against any hostile forces by whatever means are at their disposal.
Though we seek the support of the community as a whole in this grand effort, no formal alliances, nonaggression pacts or defense contracts are being made in an effort to maintain our policy of neutrality, with the exception that we will respect the sovereign districts of other training corporations. Any material support received to pursue this mission or to maintain ownership in the future will have been strictly voluntary and unsolicited by DUST University.
Alcare Xavier Golden
Chief Diplomat
Director of Communications |
ReGnUM Public Relations
Imperfects Public Relations
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Posted - 2013.04.10 13:25:00 -
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Well...ahhhh.... that might be a problem.
The Imperfects also want Hedaleolfarber III. Maybe we can make some arrangement like renting space... etc. If not see you on the battlefield. |
Seed Dren
L.O.T.I.S.
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Posted - 2013.04.10 13:33:00 -
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I'm gonna go and guess...... annnnnd...... not gonna happen. You just might have to wait till more territories become available. (Just guessing) |
Halador Osiris
Dead Six Initiative
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Posted - 2013.04.10 16:25:00 -
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ReGnUM Public Relations wrote:Well...ahhhh.... that might be a problem.
The Imperfects also want Hedaleolfarber III. Maybe we can make some arrangement like renting space... etc. If not see you on the battlefield.
BTW I am always open for suggestion, so suggest away.
ReGnYuM
Destroyer of Worlds/ Leader of Imperfect A Team
Director of Public Relations The more I hear about Imperfects the less I like them. |
Karl Koekwaus
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.04.10 16:34:00 -
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I don't see how you can remain a neutral entity and claim a planet. Those two things seem mutually exclusive.
If you want to be like EVE Uni, just ask corps who own Districts to give lectures about them or lead squads into battle on uni sponsored contracts.
Instead of claiming stuff with a Holier than thou attitude.
seems like dust uni just want things handed over to them, which makes me sad, as that is not in the spirit of the eve universe or the eve university. |
Moochie Cricket
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.04.10 16:36:00 -
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I called it first, so you can't have it |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.04.10 16:37:00 -
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Loling that this region is likely not going to be it and that ccp is purposely trolling people away from the real region. |
howard sanchez
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
477
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Posted - 2013.04.10 16:41:00 -
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And thus was born The Dojo Planet, as it would be known for ages since.
Because no one could say Hedaleolfarber anyway.
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Alcare Xavier Golden
DUST University
Ivy League
147
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Posted - 2013.04.10 16:42:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Loling that this region is likely not going to be it and that ccp is purposely trolling people away from the real region.
It certainly wouldn't surprise me  |
Krythor Motrec
Mobile Life Security Systems
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Posted - 2013.04.10 16:42:00 -
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Don't make me take my railgun and go home. It is MINE!! |
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gbghg
L.O.T.I.S.
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Posted - 2013.04.10 16:44:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Loling that this region is likely not going to be it and that ccp is purposely trolling people away from the real region.
well apparently foxfour got angry and said CCP could change the region anytime when he heard over irc that vaerana had found the region. |
Alcare Xavier Golden
DUST University
Ivy League
147
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Posted - 2013.04.10 16:44:00 -
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howard sanchez wrote:And thus was born The Dojo Planet, as it would be known for ages since.
Because no one could say Hedaleolfarber anyway.
+1...had the same reaction to the name... |
Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc
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Posted - 2013.04.10 16:45:00 -
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Nothing wrong with claiming a planet and remaining neutral. The Swiss have had territory for a very long time and are always neutral. Don't let the naysayers get ya. Anyways Dust Uni has like 700 people, I'm sure they can hold it.
gbghg wrote: well apparently foxfour got angry and said CCP could change the region anytime when he heard over irc that vaerana had found the region.
That doesn't sound very nice. |
Zekain Kade
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
1207
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Posted - 2013.04.10 16:48:00 -
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Daedric Lothar wrote:Nothing wrong with claiming a planet and remaining neutral. The Swiss have had territory for a very long time and are always neutral. Don't let the naysayers get ya. Anyways Dust Uni has like 700 people, I'm sure they can hold it. gbghg wrote: well apparently foxfour got angry and said CCP could change the region anytime when he heard over irc that vaerana had found the region. That doesn't sound very nice.
Numbers are. Nowhere near as important in dust as they are in eve. |
Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc
173
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Posted - 2013.04.10 16:53:00 -
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Zekain Kade wrote: Numbers are. Nowhere near as important in dust as they are in eve.
In the 16v16 you are correct, however numbers also mean more $$ which means they can buy more clone packs, field better gear and pay people to kill whoever messes with them. |
Alcare Xavier Golden
DUST University
Ivy League
147
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Posted - 2013.04.10 16:53:00 -
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Darn double post... |
Alcare Xavier Golden
DUST University
Ivy League
147
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Posted - 2013.04.10 16:55:00 -
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Karl Koekwaus wrote:I don't see how you can remain a neutral entity and claim a planet. Those two things seem mutually exclusive.
If you want to be like EVE Uni, just ask corps who own Districts to give lectures about them or lead squads into battle on uni sponsored contracts.
Instead of claiming stuff with a Holier than thou attitude.
seems like dust uni just want things handed over to them, which makes me sad, as that is not in the spirit of the eve universe or the eve university.
There is neither attitude or ego in our announcement.
We reached out to the community as well as debated internally for as many viewpoints as possible and you certainly are free to you own opinion. As part of our reach out to the community,we promised transparency...and that is the sole purpose of this announcement.
The community will do with this Information as they wish. We will continue to drive our mission regardless of the success of our PC aspirations. |
Zekain Kade
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
1207
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Posted - 2013.04.10 16:58:00 -
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Daedric Lothar wrote:Zekain Kade wrote: Numbers are. Nowhere near as important in dust as they are in eve. In the 16v16 you are correct, however numbers also mean more $$ which means they can buy more clone packs, field better gear and pay people to kill whoever messes with them.
Just because you can buy more clones, and better gear with you nets still does note an you'll win. |
Kevall Longstride
DUST University
Ivy League
164
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Posted - 2013.04.10 17:06:00 -
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We have had open dialogue with the rest of the community for a number of weeks and the idea of a planet for the use of the training corps actually came from the community.
We believe, as do others, that this will be of a long time benefit to the whole of the community and ask that any other corps of a similar mission goal to join us on Hedaleolfarber III to that end.
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Alcare Xavier Golden
DUST University
Ivy League
148
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Posted - 2013.04.10 17:06:00 -
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Daedric Lothar wrote:Zekain Kade wrote: Numbers are. Nowhere near as important in dust as they are in eve. In the 16v16 you are correct, however numbers also mean more $$ which means they can buy more clone packs, field better gear and pay people to kill whoever messes with them.
>.>
<.<
Our stance is neutral because we targeting a specific district sans politics. We have an objective. We will attempt to accomplish it..
If that involves throwing isk at the problem I'll let the CEO make the decision. |
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Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc
175
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Posted - 2013.04.10 17:10:00 -
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Zekain Kade wrote: Just because you can buy more clones, and better gear with you still does note an you'll win.
Well, I'll be watching the planet on the map them, lets see if you are right. I always liked Eve Uni so I'll root for Dust Uni to see if they pull it off. |
howard sanchez
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
477
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Posted - 2013.04.10 17:14:00 -
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Alcare Xavier Golden wrote:Daedric Lothar wrote:Zekain Kade wrote: Numbers are. Nowhere near as important in dust as they are in eve. In the 16v16 you are correct, however numbers also mean more $$ which means they can buy more clone packs, field better gear and pay people to kill whoever messes with them. >.> <.< Our stance is neutral because we targeting a specific district sans politics. We have an objective. We will attempt to accomplish it.. If that involves throwing isk at the problem I'll let the CEO make the decision.
Congrats to DUST Uni for building castles in the sandbox.
Every sandbox has its bullies who believe it to be thier sole purpose to tear down castles built by others.
But we all knew that when Mommy dropped us off in this box.
I wholeheartedly support DUST Uni ( and any other community growth focused organizations') attempts to create something other than sand. |
Free Beers
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
1329
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Posted - 2013.04.10 17:19:00 -
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howard sanchez wrote:
Congrats to DUST Uni for building castles in the sandbox.
Every sandbox has its bullies who believe it to be thier sole purpose to tear down castles built by others.
But we all knew that when Mommy dropped us off in this box.
I wholeheartedly support DUST Uni ( and any other community growth focused organizations') attempts to create something other than sand.
So many griefing targets, so few clones 
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Laheon
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
433
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Posted - 2013.04.10 17:24:00 -
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I think Dust Uni will be very hard pressed to keep any "PC aspirations" they may have, unless, of course, they have some very good players.
But then, those good players may just want to go fight for a nullsec alliance, or for FW, instead of periodically defending a sole planet.
Apologies to the both of you, but New Eden has no honour. Soon enough, a "pirate" corp, or possibly the goons, will take you over to prove a single point: that things won't be handed to you on a silver platter simply because you want it to be so, or even because its in the name of a good cause.
This is the same universe which has hulkageddon. It's not going to be easy on newbies, and it's not going to be easy on corporations. Want bunnies to get used to the game? Then play in pubs, in highsec. I've seen a quote of something like 8 million isk per district per day. No one's going to sit back and let you make that passively. |
Alcare Xavier Golden
DUST University
Ivy League
152
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Posted - 2013.04.10 17:32:00 -
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Our goal isn't to build an empire...it's to pass along the tools to help present and future empire builders!
Because our goals are different, you can attempt to grief us but it won't be successful in the traditional sense. We may be inconvenienced but we'll just shake our heads and move on. It's kind of like our philosophy on spies....when you don't have anything to hide you don't stress about them.
tl;dr - griefing DUNI gets no QQs |
howard sanchez
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
477
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Posted - 2013.04.10 17:38:00 -
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This is also the same universe that spawned a myriad of corporations like The Privateers, who for many many months made it thier personal agenda to relentlessly attack and WarDec EveUni.
Dust Uni, I expect, are fully aware of the mob of trolls and grief ears and ePeen swinging forum warriors lining up in response to thier announced intention.
Sandcastles are made of sand. The Mob exists to destroy the positive efforts of others.
Conflict. Protagonist. Antagonist. Working as intended.
It is, however, given the prolific and self-aggrandizing nature of the Mob, very encouraging to see someone take hold of the Flag and lift it up. Knowing full well that the hateful gaze of the Mob will turn immediately to the flag bearer.
Step forth, Uni. Fight on! There are many that will rally to your call |
Alcare Xavier Golden
DUST University
Ivy League
152
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Posted - 2013.04.10 17:41:00 -
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*Looks over at Kevall*
At any point, did we ask for a hand out? I'm pretty sure we didn't...
We said:
1) We claim this as our spot that we hope like minded people will want to use for the same purpose as us...
2) If you try to take our spot we'll attempt to take it back. (Fair notice in the interests of neutrality).
I can't speak for every member of DUST University...but I can say you certainly aren't going to see any tears from DUNI management if the district is taken. We will attempt to take it back and if unsuccessful move on to other plans. When we say we seek support from the community we're asking if we're serving our purpose, do you find value in our mission...etc.
End of debate about handouts |
Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc
175
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Posted - 2013.04.10 17:44:00 -
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Alcare Xavier Golden wrote: We will attempt to take it back and if unsuccessful move on to other plans.
This doesn't look right, DustUni from what I understand is about learning. I don't know about you, but the fastest way I learn is to get my teeth kicked in again and again and again. I don't like playing decent players. If I'm a newbie I wanna play the best guy ever and let him do hideous things to me.
Never give up, never surrender. If they take your district, then attack it another 365 times this year lol
[Edit]: Plus, hey, its your job to learn, what have you got to lose by throwing away clones, but if you keep attacking whoever takes it then I'm sure they will eventually get fed up they never make any ISK because you keep attacking them and eventually give it to you. |
Jaiden Longshot
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
Noir. Mercenary Group
275
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Posted - 2013.04.10 17:45:00 -
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Good Luck with said plan when we will be confined to one region with several power blocks already formed. |
Alcare Xavier Golden
DUST University
Ivy League
152
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Posted - 2013.04.10 17:54:00 -
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Daedric Lothar wrote:Alcare Xavier Golden wrote: We will attempt to take it back and if unsuccessful move on to other plans. This doesn't look right, DustUni from what I understand is about learning. I don't know about you, but the fastest way I learn is to get my teeth kicked in again and again and again. I don't like playing decent players. If I'm a newbie I wanna play the best guy ever and let him do hideous things to me. Never give up, never surrender. If they take your district, then attack it another 365 times this year lol [Edit]: Plus, hey, its your job to learn, what have you got to lose by throwing away clones, but if you keep attacking whoever takes it then I'm sure they will eventually get fed up they never make any ISK because you keep attacking them and eventually give it to you.
It's a cost/benefit issue. If the benefits continue to outweigh the costs we would move on...as long as we feel we're coming out ahead on the benefit scale I'm sure we'll continue to move forward. |
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