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Anmol Singh
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
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Posted - 2013.04.10 01:35:00 -
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ArE ThEy OvErPrIcEd?? YeS ThEy ArE OvErPrIcEd BeCaUsE tHeY DoNt LaSt LoNg In A MaTcH AlSo ThEy DoNt GiVe AnY WaR PoInTs.... ThIeR Is No PoInT iN SkIlLiNg iN ThEm, EvEn If YoU HaVe ThE BeSt DrOpShIp, YoU'rE GoNnA gEt ShOt DoWn LiKe CaKe!!!
CaaaKKKeee!!! |
copy left
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
82
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Posted - 2013.04.10 01:36:00 -
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Honestly dropships should be a 4th of their price , and on top of that, there should be a weak bpo dropship so that we can get some pilots in this game. |
Anmol Singh
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
10
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Posted - 2013.04.10 01:38:00 -
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copy left wrote:Honestly dropships should be a 4th of their price , and on top of that, there should be a weak bpo dropship so that we can get some pilots in this game.
drop ships are Overpriced and underpowerd... seriously my stock sica can take down a pro dropship in only a few seconds... |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
2444
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Posted - 2013.04.10 01:39:00 -
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I hate you.
That is all. |
Anmol Singh
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
10
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Posted - 2013.04.10 01:40:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:I hate you.
That is all.
why, i cant even fly... :(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((( |
Ion Crush
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
39
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Posted - 2013.04.10 01:45:00 -
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Funny, I've seen DS last all match long while taking out tanks, installations, other DS, all the little bunnys running around on the ground. Pilot gets tons of SP cause hes SQ lead and has the defend order on the DS.
The real problem is they can be difficult to learn, so there aren't many good pilots. And you NEED gunners who can shoot. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1199
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Posted - 2013.04.10 01:46:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Are they overpriced?? Yes, they are overpriced because they don't last long in a match. Also, they don't give any war points.... there is no point in skilling into them, since even if you have the best dropship, you're going to get shot down like cake!!!
CaaaKKKeee!!! Translated.
Despite the best efforts by the OP, this thread holds some very valid points. Seems to me that whenever I try using a dropship, blueberries never get in, but it seems to be priority 1 to destroy. Maybe we can use the hate for dropships as a distraction on the battlefield! |
Anmol Singh
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
11
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Posted - 2013.04.10 01:54:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:I hate you.
That is all.
:( |
Nguruthos IX
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
193
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Posted - 2013.04.10 01:57:00 -
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copy left wrote:Honestly dropships should be a 4th of their price , and on top of that, there should be a weak bpo dropship so that we can get some pilots in this game.
no bpo's ever.
makes 2 million isk ds cannon fodder for one hit ko suicide air collisions.
no.
no.
no.
no.
no. |
Anmol Singh
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
11
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Posted - 2013.04.10 01:58:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:copy left wrote:Honestly dropships should be a 4th of their price , and on top of that, there should be a weak bpo dropship so that we can get some pilots in this game. no bpo's ever. makes 2 million isk ds cannon fodder for one hit ko suicide air collisions. no. no. no. no. no.
what is bpo? |
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Sylvana Nightwind
Expert Intervention Caldari State
218
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Posted - 2013.04.10 02:01:00 -
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Dropships are OP. They can fly. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
357
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Posted - 2013.04.10 02:05:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:Are they overpriced?? Yes, they are overpriced because they don't last long in a match. Also, they don't give any war points.... there is no point in skilling into them, since even if you have the best dropship, you're going to get shot down like cake!!!
CaaaKKKeee!!! Translated. Despite the best efforts by the OP, this thread holds some very valid points. Seems to me that whenever I try using a dropship, blueberries never get in, but it seems to be priority 1 to destroy. Maybe we can use the hate for dropships as a distraction on the battlefield!
Distraction points: every time an enemy dies whilst looking at a dropship, the pilot earns 20wp. |
Anmol Singh
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
11
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Posted - 2013.04.10 02:07:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:Are they overpriced?? Yes, they are overpriced because they don't last long in a match. Also, they don't give any war points.... there is no point in skilling into them, since even if you have the best dropship, you're going to get shot down like cake!!!
CaaaKKKeee!!! Translated. Despite the best efforts by the OP, this thread holds some very valid points. Seems to me that whenever I try using a dropship, blueberries never get in, but it seems to be priority 1 to destroy. Maybe we can use the hate for dropships as a distraction on the battlefield! Distraction points: every time an enemy dies whilst looking at a dropship, the pilot earns 20wp.
make it 100, i barley see them... unless i already died to a tank pronounced (tunk) |
Anmol Singh
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
11
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Posted - 2013.04.10 02:09:00 -
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Sylvana Nightwind wrote:Dropships are OP. They can fly.
op as in overpriced or overpowerd??? |
copy left
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
83
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Posted - 2013.04.10 02:21:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:copy left wrote:Honestly dropships should be a 4th of their price , and on top of that, there should be a weak bpo dropship so that we can get some pilots in this game. no bpo's ever. makes 2 million isk ds cannon fodder for one hit ko suicide air collisions. no. no. no. no. no. I can take a free lav and ram a tank and blow it up, i can even divebomb a viper dropship into a friendly tank and blow it up. what is your point? |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax. CRONOS.
3380
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Posted - 2013.04.10 02:41:00 -
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Ion Crush wrote:Funny, I've seen DS last all match long while taking out tanks, installations, other DS, all the little bunnys running around on the ground. Pilot gets tons of SP cause hes SQ lead and has the defend order on the DS.
The real problem is they can be difficult to learn, so there aren't many good pilots. And you NEED gunners who can shoot.
I call BS on this, the last pilot that proclaimed this I wasted in one reload, I was quite sure the last two shots wheren't needed. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
2444
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Posted - 2013.04.10 02:47:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I call BS on this, the last pilot that proclaimed this I wasted in one reload, I was quite sure the last two shots wheren't needed.
As do I. I've flown so many dropships, mostly fully tanked ones, and all it takes is a little coordination from militia guys, or one dedicated AV guy, and you're toast. Unless of course you were using the old boosters, flying around in circles all match, not contributing to anything.
Dropships are easy to learn now, just expensive. In the current state of the game, they have very little use aside from being a novelty. Here's hoping they FINALLY give us some love in Uprising, but considering the trends, I anticipate more nerfs on the horizon. |
Nguruthos IX
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
194
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Posted - 2013.04.10 02:50:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:copy left wrote:Honestly dropships should be a 4th of their price , and on top of that, there should be a weak bpo dropship so that we can get some pilots in this game. no bpo's ever. makes 2 million isk ds cannon fodder for one hit ko suicide air collisions. no. no. no. no. no. what is bpo?
blue print original: Free, unlimited kamikaze spam. would ruin game. |
Krythor Motrec
Mobile Life Security Systems
3
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Posted - 2013.04.10 02:51:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:copy left wrote:Honestly dropships should be a 4th of their price , and on top of that, there should be a weak bpo dropship so that we can get some pilots in this game. no bpo's ever. makes 2 million isk ds cannon fodder for one hit ko suicide air collisions. no. no. no. no. no. what is bpo?
Blueprints
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Nguruthos IX
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
194
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Posted - 2013.04.10 02:54:00 -
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copy left wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:copy left wrote:Honestly dropships should be a 4th of their price , and on top of that, there should be a weak bpo dropship so that we can get some pilots in this game. no bpo's ever. makes 2 million isk ds cannon fodder for one hit ko suicide air collisions. no. no. no. no. no. I can take a free lav and ram a tank and blow it up, i can even divebomb a viper dropship into a friendly tank and blow it up. what is your point?
Allow me to educate you. When you crash a Lav into a tank, it does a very minimal and finite amount of damage. A good tank could shrug off an entire team of constant lav battery. BUT
A drop-ship colliding with a drop-ship is an instant 1 hit KO through all shields and armor for both parties. And not only does it bring the armor to zero but triggers the "death spiral" from which if you use a repair unit, no repair will happen. And full control is lost of the vehicle till it plummets to the earth for explosive impact.
Do you now see the difference? The problem?
Additionally a viper crashing into a tank does as much damage to the tank as a Lav. Except it cost 150k ISK and the viper will die instantly upon impact. |
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copy left
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
85
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Posted - 2013.04.10 03:35:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:copy left wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:copy left wrote:Honestly dropships should be a 4th of their price , and on top of that, there should be a weak bpo dropship so that we can get some pilots in this game. no bpo's ever. makes 2 million isk ds cannon fodder for one hit ko suicide air collisions. no. no. no. no. no. I can take a free lav and ram a tank and blow it up, i can even divebomb a viper dropship into a friendly tank and blow it up. what is your point? Allow me to educate you. When you crash a Lav into a tank, it does a very minimal and finite amount of damage. A good tank could shrug off an entire team of constant lav battery. BUT A drop-ship colliding with a drop-ship is an instant 1 hit KO through all shields and armor for both parties. And not only does it bring the armor to zero but triggers the "death spiral" from which if you use a repair unit, no repair will happen. And full control is lost of the vehicle till it plummets to the earth for explosive impact. Do you now see the difference? The problem? Additionally a viper crashing into a tank does as much damage to the tank as a Lav. Except it cost 150k ISK and the viper will die instantly upon impact.
you are wrong, I do suicide dropship bombings all the time, hell I could face you right now and your tank has no chance.
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
2449
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Posted - 2013.04.10 03:39:00 -
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copy left wrote:you are wrong, I do suicide dropship bombings all the time, hell I could face you right now and your tank has no chance.
I've had significantly more credible sources tell me otherwise, video or I just don't believe you. |
Vyzion Eyri
The Legion Academy ROFL BROS
423
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Posted - 2013.04.10 03:55:00 -
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Dropships aren't overpriced. Maps are simply undersized. Bigger maps with objectives that are a sniper's shot apart, and then we can talk about pricing. |
Skihids
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
1162
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Posted - 2013.04.10 04:08:00 -
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Maps and squad sizes are both too small to properly employ a dropship.
It's like using a Huey to move you and your friends around the schoolyard. Complete and utter overkill when you can walk almost as fast.
The DS requires a coordinated force of seven to be fully effective. The pilot and three infantry are not enough of an assault force to take a defended objective by air. It's not immediately obvious given the sixteen mercs per side, but pub matches don't contain the required "ammo" needed by a dropship.
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Nguruthos IX
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
194
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Posted - 2013.04.10 04:09:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:copy left wrote:you are wrong, I do suicide dropship bombings all the time, hell I could face you right now and your tank has no chance.
I've had significantly more credible sources tell me otherwise, video or I just don't believe you.
Copy left is talking out of his ***, Don't take my word for it. Just go spend the 300k and see for yourself.
Viper+Dropship(any type) collision = both will die.
Viper+ tank(any) collision = tank will hardly notice the cash you just threw at it. Unless it was like a militia shield tank with 200 armor and it's shield had already been ripped off or something.
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Flux Raeder
WarRavens
84
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Posted - 2013.04.10 04:20:00 -
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Okay, a couple points and a long story. Dropships are not overpriced. Simple as that. When used properly a dropship can provide a constant flow of friendlies into the weakest parts of enemy territory. I have been in a dozen games where this alone has turned the tides of an entire battle. If you don't see how that is possible I can detail exactly how hard it is for an enemy to hold ground in their own territory when they are having heavy machine-gunners dropping in around them from every direction and snipers suddenly sprouting from their own roofs. Yes, dropships are NOT the easiest things to fly, but with minimal practice you ought to be able to figure it out. To expand on both this and the distraction factor: occasionally for fun I will call in a simple militia dropship. I used to pilot a lot in the first builds so I enjoy taking these things to their limits, I have crashed a couple by doing stupid (but crazy cool!!) stunts but I have also caused such a huge distraction in some matches just with my presence that my team has won the game. A prime example of this is a game a couple months ago on manus peak. The enemy sniper coverage was insane. They had heavys rolling my team on the ground, I was running solo for once and as usual the blue-dots weren't doing ****. I decided I would have some fun rather than waste my isk and efforts on them so I called in a dropship. I began doing aerial manouvres for fun, getting as close to the ground as fast as possible and flying up the gentral road from a-c-b at top speed about two feet above the ground. This TERRIFIED the other team, every single player was suddenly armed with swarms and forges but nobody could hit me because I was putting everything I had into flying. I was squishing snipers on hills with the tip of my dropship, dodging an OB, tauntinglr flying by a foot in front of an armed railgun at top speed and generally just having an extremely enjoyable time. While I was doing this my bluedots finally took some initiative and hacked EVERYTHING. Suddenly the game that we were losing by about 75% swings around for a solid victory. This is with an un-edited militia dropship, solo on a bored night people, imagine if I'd had gunners and an uplink! Or had even practiced flying the new mechanics more than once before this? Overpriced? I don't think so. I have never laughed so hard while playing a videogame, maybe try Priceless. As for bpo, this was done in the earlier builds and was removed for MANY reasons, we've moved past this. And finally, OP: TaLkInG lIkE ThIs PiSsEs EvErYoNe OfF. It's not clever and if you want any kind of future in New Eden I'd suggest you cut it now. |
Nguruthos IX
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
195
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Posted - 2013.04.10 04:27:00 -
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Flux Raeder wrote:Okay, a couple points and a long story. Dropships are not overpriced. Simple as that. When used properly a dropship can provide a constant flow of friendlies into the weakest parts of enemy territory. I have been in a dozen games where this alone has turned the tides of an entire battle. If you don't see how that is possible I can detail exactly how hard it is for an enemy to hold ground in their own territory when they are having heavy machine-gunners dropping in around them from every direction and snipers suddenly sprouting from their own roofs. Yes, dropships are NOT the easiest things to fly, but with minimal practice you ought to be able to figure it out. To expand on both this and the distraction factor: occasionally for fun I will call in a simple militia dropship. I used to pilot a lot in the first builds so I enjoy taking these things to their limits, I have crashed a couple by doing stupid (but crazy cool!!) stunts but I have also caused such a huge distraction in some matches just with my presence that my team has won the game. A prime example of this is a game a couple months ago on manus peak. The enemy sniper coverage was insane. They had heavys rolling my team on the ground, I was running solo for once and as usual the blue-dots weren't doing ****. I decided I would have some fun rather than waste my isk and efforts on them so I called in a dropship. I began doing aerial manouvres for fun, getting as close to the ground as fast as possible and flying up the gentral road from a-c-b at top speed about two feet above the ground. This TERRIFIED the other team, every single player was suddenly armed with swarms and forges but nobody could hit me because I was putting everything I had into flying. I was squishing snipers on hills with the tip of my dropship, dodging an OB, tauntinglr flying by a foot in front of an armed railgun at top speed and generally just having an extremely enjoyable time. While I was doing this my bluedots finally took some initiative and hacked EVERYTHING. Suddenly the game that we were losing by about 75% swings around for a solid victory. This is with an un-edited militia dropship, solo on a bored night people, imagine if I'd had gunners and an uplink! Or had even practiced flying the new mechanics more than once before this? Overpriced? I don't think so. I have never laughed so hard while playing a videogame, maybe try Priceless. As for bpo, this was done in the earlier builds and was removed for MANY reasons, we've moved past this. And finally, OP: TaLkInG lIkE ThIs PiSsEs EvErYoNe OfF. It's not clever and if you want any kind of future in New Eden I'd suggest you cut it now.
Sorry but nobody is or ever has been terrified of a dropship. The fact that they all switched to AV is because they just wanted a free kill and to knock you out of 150k.
Furthermore if a single one of those players had a militia forge gun, and two opposable thumbs they could have knocked you right out of the air within the span of 4 seconds or less.
The only way for a cheap drop-ship to survive a map where one player has a militia FG is to hide behind a hill or building the entire game. FG are incredibly easy to aim too. Any player half trying could nail you at max range, first shot, no problem.
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howard sanchez
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
473
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Posted - 2013.04.10 04:28:00 -
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Tldr? |
Flux Raeder
WarRavens
84
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Posted - 2013.04.10 04:32:00 -
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PS: A dropship is only as good as it's pilot, I don't care how much money you spent on it or if it is fully maxed out, if you suck at flying it it won't make a difference. I am by no means a pro pliot, not a even a great one, but I have seen some who are. There are some pilots out there that will blow your mind with their ability to effortlessly dodge everything you throw at em while STILL providing full support for their team |
XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1410
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Posted - 2013.04.10 04:35:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:ArE ThEy OvErPrIcEd?? YeS ThEy ArE OvErPrIcEd BeCaUsE tHeY DoNt LaSt LoNg In A MaTcH AlSo ThEy DoNt GiVe AnY WaR PoInTs.... ThIeR Is No PoInT iN SkIlLiNg iN ThEm, EvEn If YoU HaVe ThE BeSt DrOpShIp, YoU'rE GoNnA gEt ShOt DoWn LiKe CaKe!!!
CaaaKKKeee!!!
Dropships are not OP good bye |
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