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Sextus Hardcock
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
142
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Posted - 2013.04.10 01:29:00 -
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http://themittani.com/news/dust-514-orbital-bombardment-exploit-documented
and Respect to CCP for patching it out nice and quick.
Sex
(not sure if this is old news yet, ran a search and got nuthin) |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation
1946
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Posted - 2013.04.10 01:47:00 -
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Damn! |
Thor Odinson42
Red Star. EoN.
55
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Posted - 2013.04.10 01:48:00 -
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Props to them for not being homos and crushing everybody with it. |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1966
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Posted - 2013.04.10 01:50:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Props to them for not being homos and crushing everybody with it. And for not posting it on the forums for all to see to abuse like some other corps we know. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S.
1097
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Posted - 2013.04.10 01:51:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Props to them for not being homos and crushing everybody with it. And for not posting it on the forums for all to see to abuse like some other corps we know. oh they posted it on the forums, but only after ccp patched it |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1966
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Posted - 2013.04.10 01:53:00 -
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gbghg wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Props to them for not being homos and crushing everybody with it. And for not posting it on the forums for all to see to abuse like some other corps we know. oh they posted it on the forums, but only after ccp patched it It's strange - this is now the second piece of evidence that I.I. may actually be a good group of guys. My understanding of goons is starting to shake lol |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1199
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Posted - 2013.04.10 01:53:00 -
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Props to them.
However, this is the eve universe- they must be hiding something yet. |
Veritas Vitae
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
116
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Posted - 2013.04.10 02:33:00 -
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Wow, that could have been horribly abusive in pubs. |
Mithridates VI
DUST 411
738
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Posted - 2013.04.10 02:46:00 -
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This is II's public service announcement on the subject. |
Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
850
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Posted - 2013.04.10 03:09:00 -
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Are you rewarding someone for something they should do anyways? Just because they be gooning? Just question, no tone intended. |
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Mithridates VI
DUST 411
738
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Posted - 2013.04.10 03:11:00 -
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They're being rewarded for doing something I doubt most of the other major corps would do. |
EKH0 0ne
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2013.04.10 04:50:00 -
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Yeah really well what about props to ekho one who made a day before II? The post gets moved, then i assume deleted because i cant find it anymore. Everyone doubts me in the thread saying yeah right thats impossible. Not a single thumbs up
The same night i post and after the devs obviously saw it because they moved the thread it gets fixed. and the credit is givin to someone who posts a video the day after...wow
Your welcome |
Mithridates VI
DUST 411
740
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Posted - 2013.04.10 04:52:00 -
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EKH0 0ne wrote:Yeah really well what about props to ekho one who made a day before II? The post gets moved, then i assume deleted because i cant find it anymore. Everyone doubts me in the thread saying yeah right thats impossible. Not a single thumbs up
The same night i post and after the devs obviously saw it because they moved the thread it gets fixed. and the credit is givin to someone who posts a video the day after...wow
Your welcome
[citation needed] |
EKH0 0ne
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2013.04.10 04:55:00 -
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https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=675299#post675299 |
Mithridates VI
DUST 411
740
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Posted - 2013.04.10 05:42:00 -
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You're silly. While usually I would applaud anyone reporting issues, your expression of dissatisfaction with lack of recognition is childish and makes me hesitant to support you at all, so I won't.
You want props for your thread being first?
It wasn't. The bug was discovered at least a couple of days before your thread was created and Immobile Infantry spent a few days testing and documenting it, while reporting their progress to CCP who were alerted directly immediately.
Starting a thread because you saw someone using it? Not quite the same thing as developing and reporting a software exploit.
What people are giving props for is II having a full understanding of the bug and using it responsibly. |
Rusty Shallows
Black Jackals
40
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Posted - 2013.04.10 06:13:00 -
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And to think if the actual method was kept secret CCP would have been forced to remove free orbitals from public matches. |
Eltra Ardell
Immobile Infantry
19
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Posted - 2013.04.10 06:18:00 -
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EKH0 0ne wrote:Yeah really well what about props to ekho one who made a day before II? The post gets moved, then i assume deleted because i cant find it anymore. Everyone doubts me in the thread saying yeah right thats impossible. Not a single thumbs up
The same night i post and after the devs obviously saw it because they moved the thread it gets fixed. and the credit is givin to someone who posts a video the day after...wow
Your welcome
The glitch was discovered, explored, and reported before your thread. Please, don't be childish. What's important is that we found a glitch and it was fixed. Who found it and reported it doesn't matter, as it was reported and fixed, and not abused. Besides, it's not like CCP gave us Type II Assault BPOs in Yellow and Black stripes.
That'd be totally preferential treatment and completely impossible. |
sammus420
Immobile Infantry
40
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Posted - 2013.04.10 06:22:00 -
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Eltra Ardell wrote: The glitch was discovered, explored, and reported before your thread. Please, don't be childish. What's important is that we found a glitch and it was fixed. Who found it and reported it doesn't matter, as it was reported and fixed, and not abused. Besides, it's not like CCP gave us Type II Assault BPOs in Yellow and Black stripes.
I gotta admit, I was really hoping for those. We would have looked totally bad ass on the battlefield in them. |
Eltra Ardell
Immobile Infantry
20
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Posted - 2013.04.10 06:41:00 -
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sammus420 wrote:Eltra Ardell wrote: The glitch was discovered, explored, and reported before your thread. Please, don't be childish. What's important is that we found a glitch and it was fixed. Who found it and reported it doesn't matter, as it was reported and fixed, and not abused. Besides, it's not like CCP gave us Type II Assault BPOs in Yellow and Black stripes.
I gotta admit, I was really hoping for those. We would have looked totally bad ass on the battlefield in them. Yeah, we'd have been the definition of chic, baby.
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Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
899
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Posted - 2013.04.10 06:48:00 -
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Guess you'll just have to be happy with the AUR CCP gave you for a reward. Good job we knew about eves Plex for snitches policy eh? ;) |
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Corn In TheSkidmark
Backstabbers N Cheaters Union
84
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Posted - 2013.04.10 07:14:00 -
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Some people like to wear knee pads under desks I guess. Damn snitches. |
Kalante Schiffer
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
193
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Posted - 2013.04.10 08:07:00 -
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Veritas Vitae wrote:Wow, that could have been horribly abusive in pubs. yeah it could of had been, but this aint no cod where commentators say to their viewers on how to exploit a glitch and once the voice is heard more and more commentators get on the bandwagon and tell EVERYONE...next thing you know there is scrubs glitching all over the game, plus treyarch/infinity ward lack of f*cks given does not help the situation (even though they make billions off from their ******** sheep and commentators leeching from that youtube money who could not even afford a haircut if it was not for cod and its viewers which are 90% 9 year olds who think no scoping and hacking cod WaW is legit). CCP sure gets things done. |
Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
94
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Posted - 2013.04.10 08:07:00 -
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cool story bro
Immobile Infantry got reported to CCP staff for bugusung and now they are doing damage mitigation by saying "they were doing tests" and taking credit for bugusing in pub matches.
the irony, just check this thread: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=676057#post676057 fact is sammus420 was doing it already for ages and they dared to ask "Do you have any proof to back up your claims?" and now they post the evidence by themself
pathetic... |
Mithridates VI
DUST 411
744
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Posted - 2013.04.10 08:27:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:this is my point of view for this: Immobile Infantry got reported to CCP staff for bugusing and now they are doing damage mitigation by saying "they were doing tests" and taking credit for bugusing in pub matches. they were testing nothing, they only ruined the games of some poor new players in militia stuff. I saw sammus420 doing it several times in pub matches already last week and reported it accordingly... the irony, just check this thread: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=676057#post676057and they dared to ask "Do you have any proof to back up your claims?" and now they post the evidence by themself. if you want to test something, make a corp match instead of ruining the experience of new players
IDK if you're a student at D-UNI or better represent them but I read bullkitten like this and think less of them. There's public tweets between devs and Immobile Infantry, it was discussed in IRC, there's an easily visible conversation between the two and you're making things up because of some kind of anti-Goon agenda.
Why are you so dishonest? |
Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
94
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Posted - 2013.04.10 08:32:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:Jack McReady wrote:this is my point of view for this: Immobile Infantry got reported to CCP staff for bugusing and now they are doing damage mitigation by saying "they were doing tests" and taking credit for bugusing in pub matches. they were testing nothing, they only ruined the games of some poor new players in militia stuff. I saw sammus420 doing it several times in pub matches already last week and reported it accordingly... the irony, just check this thread: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=676057#post676057and they dared to ask "Do you have any proof to back up your claims?" and now they post the evidence by themself. if you want to test something, make a corp match instead of ruining the experience of new players IDK if you're a student at D-UNI or better represent them but I read bullkitten like this and think less of them. There's public tweets between devs and Immobile Infantry, it was discussed in IRC, there's an easily visible conversation between the two and you're making things up because of some kind of anti-Goon agenda. Why are you so dishonest? I only represent myself, also I specifically stated that this my point of view and if this is wrong then please answer those questions:
if they were testing something, please tell me why sammus was using it already last week, why have they used it in pub matches "for testing" when they could aswell make a corp match? as you can see in the thread I linked, I already knew about this before so I am not making up things. |
Mithridates VI
DUST 411
744
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Posted - 2013.04.10 08:59:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:I only represent myself, also I specifically stated that this my point of view and if this is wrong then please answer those questions:
if they were testing something, please tell me why sammus420 was using it already last week, why have they used it in pub matches "for testing" when they could aswell make a corp match? and if it was for testing why was sammus420 teamkilling other players instead of his corpmates? as you can see in the thread I linked (which ironically is about II teamkilling others and you could provoke the bug via teamkilling), I already knew about this before so I am not making up things.
I'm not a Goon, nor can I speak for them, but I imagine any abuse of the exploit was the act of an individual.
I've seen Immobile Infantry leadership very clearly, after they immediately told CCP, pass on a "stop doing this". I've seen Cerebral Wolf dismiss the idea of sharing the exploit until it's fixed. I've seen internal discussion focused on fixing a gamebreaking bug and I've seen conversations between CCP and II focused on solving the problem.
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
96
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Posted - 2013.04.10 09:45:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:Jack McReady wrote:I only represent myself, also I specifically stated that this my point of view and if this is wrong then please answer those questions:
if they were testing something, please tell me why sammus420 was using it already last week, why have they used it in pub matches "for testing" when they could aswell make a corp match? and if it was for testing why was sammus420 teamkilling other players instead of his corpmates? as you can see in the thread I linked (which ironically is about II teamkilling others and you could provoke the bug via teamkilling), I already knew about this before so I am not making up things. I'm not a Goon, nor can I speak for them, but I imagine any abuse of the exploit was the act of an individual. I've seen Immobile Infantry leadership very clearly, after they immediately told CCP, pass on a "stop doing this". I've seen Cerebral Wolf dismiss the idea of sharing the exploit until it's fixed. I've seen internal discussion focused on fixing a gamebreaking bug and I've seen conversations between CCP and II focused on solving the problem. EDIT: Also, +1 for the reasonable response to a fairly hostile post. I am always reasonable, even when I am hostile
this is my theory what actually really happened 1. some guys on II were teamkilling for fun or to punish afk people (sammus admitted it in the thread I linked that he was teamkilling) 2. during this they discovered this bug and had some fun with multiple orbitals (see the thead I linked, where I accused sammus of doing it and they asked me GÇPif I have any proofGÇ£) 3. the directors of II said to stop the teamkilling and discussed internally whats going on (again see the thread I linked were Cerebral Wolf said to stop it and discuss it internally) 4. the buguser shared the exploit with the directors 5. the directors decided to share it with CCP and claim the reward for something most likely several people already reported via the ticket system 6. II posts a thread about how it works and pretty much confirms my whole theory by posting the proof by themself.
I was randomly placed with sammus and his corp buddies into a pub match few times and saw him doing it, so that is why I guess it was actually him discovering it during a teamkilling spree and if you check the threads my theory makes a lot of sense from an outsiders point of view. Imho it does not matter if it was act of an individual, it is a difference if you have your own opinion or actually do something "bad" under the flag of someone else, II should take action and atleast apologize for someone in their corp ruining the matches of some poor players looking for fun but now the statement is "sorry bro, bad luck it was for testing, it is all fine" |
Mithridates VI
DUST 411
745
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Posted - 2013.04.10 10:06:00 -
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Cool, you can have whatever timeline you like. Here's a sequence of events based on time stamped posts.
6 Apr - Cerebral Wolf @CCP_Nullarbor Where can i send you the video of that broken thing i told @RegnerBA about? We have some insane footage with 12 of them.
7 Apr 09:09 GMT Cerebral Wolf passes on a "stop doing that" from CCP who have been advised of the exploit.
7 Apr 19:28 GMT - Jack McReady sammus420 is know for bugusing, teamkilling, several orbital strikes in 30secs of game time and so on.
EXPLOIT GETS PATCHED.
8 Apr 19:57 GMT Cerebral Wolf makes public announcement.
...but you're totally welcome to think that despite allegedly being made aware of the issue by several parties CCP decided only to reward Immobile Infantry because something something "they claimed the reward". |
Vaerana Myshtana
Bojo's School of the Trades
668
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Posted - 2013.04.10 10:19:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Are you rewarding someone for something they should do anyways? Just because they be gooning? Just question, no tone intended.
Yes, they should be reporting it anyway- but there is also the acknowledgement that they figured it out.
Discovering an exploit is worthy of praise, unless they, well... EXPLOIT it.
So it's good, pro-social behavior to laud those who figured out how to commit a crime and reported it to the authorities rather than farming it for all it's worth.
It is also the only way to avoid The Ban Hammer. |
Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
96
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Posted - 2013.04.10 10:29:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote: ...but you're totally welcome to think that despite allegedly being made aware of the issue by several parties CCP decided only to reward Immobile Infantry because something something "they claimed the reward".
that is not my point, the point is, the bug was used by a II member in pub matches before it was passed over to CCP, you cant convince anyone that teamkilling other players in pub matches to benefit from a bugand slaugher the opposition via multiple orbital strikes is for GÇPtestingGÇ£. The players affected are only left with bad experience while II got rewarded.
Funny, according to your timeline I reported I reported sammus exploiting the bug the same day ( link ), where is my reward? Not my fault that CCP is too slow at reading my rants *trollface* |
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