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Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.04.10 08:07:00 -
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cool story bro
Immobile Infantry got reported to CCP staff for bugusung and now they are doing damage mitigation by saying "they were doing tests" and taking credit for bugusing in pub matches.
the irony, just check this thread: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=676057#post676057
fact is sammus420 was doing it already for ages and they dared to ask "Do you have any proof to back up your claims?" and now they post the evidence by themself
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Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.04.10 08:32:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:Jack McReady wrote:this is my point of view for this: Immobile Infantry got reported to CCP staff for bugusing and now they are doing damage mitigation by saying "they were doing tests" and taking credit for bugusing in pub matches. they were testing nothing, they only ruined the games of some poor new players in militia stuff. I saw sammus420 doing it several times in pub matches already last week and reported it accordingly... the irony, just check this thread: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=676057#post676057and they dared to ask "Do you have any proof to back up your claims?" and now they post the evidence by themself. if you want to test something, make a corp match instead of ruining the experience of new players  IDK if you're a student at D-UNI or better represent them but I read bullkitten like this and think less of them. There's public tweets between devs and Immobile Infantry, it was discussed in IRC, there's an easily visible conversation between the two and you're making things up because of some kind of anti-Goon agenda. Why are you so dishonest?
I only represent myself, also I specifically stated that this my point of view and if this is wrong then please answer those questions:
if they were testing something, please tell me why sammus was using it already last week, why have they used it in pub matches "for testing" when they could aswell make a corp match? as you can see in the thread I linked, I already knew about this before so I am not making up things. |
Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.04.10 09:45:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:Jack McReady wrote:I only represent myself, also I specifically stated that this my point of view and if this is wrong then please answer those questions:
if they were testing something, please tell me why sammus420 was using it already last week, why have they used it in pub matches "for testing" when they could aswell make a corp match? and if it was for testing why was sammus420 teamkilling other players instead of his corpmates? as you can see in the thread I linked (which ironically is about II teamkilling others and you could provoke the bug via teamkilling), I already knew about this before so I am not making up things. I'm not a Goon, nor can I speak for them, but I imagine any abuse of the exploit was the act of an individual. I've seen Immobile Infantry leadership very clearly, after they immediately told CCP, pass on a "stop doing this". I've seen Cerebral Wolf dismiss the idea of sharing the exploit until it's fixed. I've seen internal discussion focused on fixing a gamebreaking bug and I've seen conversations between CCP and II focused on solving the problem. EDIT: Also, +1 for the reasonable response to a fairly hostile post.
I am always reasonable, even when I am hostile 
this is my theory what actually really happened
1. some guys on II were teamkilling for fun or to punish afk people (sammus admitted it in the thread I linked that he was teamkilling)
2. during this they discovered this bug and had some fun with multiple orbitals (see the thead I linked, where I accused sammus of doing it and they asked me GÇPif I have any proofGÇ£)
3. the directors of II said to stop the teamkilling and discussed internally whats going on (again see the thread I linked were Cerebral Wolf said to stop it and discuss it internally)
4. the buguser shared the exploit with the directors
5. the directors decided to share it with CCP and claim the reward for something most likely several people already reported via the ticket system
6. II posts a thread about how it works and pretty much confirms my whole theory by posting the proof by themself.
I was randomly placed with sammus and his corp buddies into a pub match few times and saw him doing it, so that is why I guess it was actually him discovering it during a teamkilling spree and if you check the threads my theory makes a lot of sense from an outsiders point of view. Imho it does not matter if it was act of an individual, it is a difference if you have your own opinion or actually do something "bad" under the flag of someone else, II should take action and atleast apologize for someone in their corp ruining the matches of some poor players looking for fun but now the statement is "sorry bro, bad luck it was for testing, it is all fine" |
Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
96
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Posted - 2013.04.10 10:29:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:
...but you're totally welcome to think that despite allegedly being made aware of the issue by several parties CCP decided only to reward Immobile Infantry because something something "they claimed the reward".
that is not my point, the point is, the bug was used by a II member in pub matches before it was passed over to CCP, you cant convince anyone that teamkilling other players in pub matches to benefit from a bugand slaugher the opposition via multiple orbital strikes is for GÇPtestingGÇ£. The players affected are only left with bad experience while II got rewarded.
Funny, according to your timeline I reported I reported sammus exploiting the bug the same day ( link ), where is my reward? Not my fault that CCP is too slow at reading my rants *trollface* |
Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
96
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Posted - 2013.04.10 18:10:00 -
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sammus420 wrote:Jack McReady wrote:
I only represent myself, also I specifically stated that this my point of view and if this is wrong then please answer those questions:
if they were testing something, please tell me why was sammus420 using it already last week, why have they used it in pub matches "for testing" when they could aswell make a corp match? and if it was for testing why was sammus420 teamkilling other players instead of his corpmates? as you can see in my post in the thread I linked (the thread that ironically is about II teamkilling others and you could provoke the bug via teamkilling), I already knew about this before so I am not making up things, evidence is here.
Why was Sammus420 using it last week? Hmmmmmmmmmmm maybe it's because he was one of the people who origionally found it, and since we didn't share it with but a small handful of other goons and the devs, there weren't a lot of people we could test it with. Also, I only used the exploit 4 times, which not exactly the level of abuse you seem to think it was. Why didn't we do multiple corp matches to test it? Because then we would have been forced to explain how the exploit is done to more people. Instead farming orbitals off pubbies is far easier, and carried less chance of people catching on to what was happening, as evidenced by the thread where people guessed wildly (and incorrectly) how we were doing it. Why was I teamkilling other players instead of my corp mates? Well this is just lies and slander. Everyone in the Science Squad i was part of can attest that not only were we only killing each other in the squad, we were systematically killing each other to farm maximum orbitals as fast as possible. Grenade ganking pubbies would have slowed down that process. As for the request for you to back up your claim in the other thread? Well, Goons like to see our names on stuff, and being called out by name is always hillarious to us. It lets us know we've left an impression who's calling us out. And I can tell from how many times you've used my name that I've left one on you.
because you cant use alt accounts for corp matches right? also I only remember you because you were the guy calling the orbitals... the sad part is, your score was nothing to brag about, even after the orbitals, your corp mates did all the work |
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