Damn!

Props to them for not being homos and crushing everybody with it.

And for not posting it on the forums for all to see to abuse like some other corps we know.

oh they posted it on the forums, but only after ccp patched it

Yeah really well what about props to ekho one who made a day before II?
The post gets moved, then i assume deleted because i cant find it anymore.
Everyone doubts me in the thread saying yeah right thats impossible.
Not a single thumbs up

The same night i post and after the devs obviously saw it because they moved the thread it gets fixed. and the credit is givin to someone who posts a video the day after...wow

Your welcome

Yeah really well what about props to ekho one who made a day before II?
The post gets moved, then i assume deleted because i cant find it anymore.
Everyone doubts me in the thread saying yeah right thats impossible.
Not a single thumbs up

The same night i post and after the devs obviously saw it because they moved the thread it gets fixed. and the credit is givin to someone who posts a video the day after...wow

Your welcome

The glitch was discovered, explored, and reported before your thread. Please, don't be childish. What's important is that we found a glitch and it was fixed. Who found it and reported it doesn't matter, as it was reported and fixed, and not abused. Besides, it's not like CCP gave us Type II Assault BPOs in Yellow and Black stripes.

I gotta admit, I was really hoping for those. We would have looked totally bad ass on the battlefield in them.

Wow, that could have been horribly abusive in pubs.

this is my point of view for this:
Immobile Infantry got reported to CCP staff for bugusing and now they are doing damage mitigation by saying "they were doing tests" and taking credit for bugusing in pub matches.

they were testing nothing, they only ruined the games of some poor new players in militia stuff. I saw sammus420 doing it several times in pub matches already last week and reported it accordingly...

the irony, just check this thread: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=676057#post676057
and they dared to ask "Do you have any proof to back up your claims?" and now they post the evidence by themself.

if you want to test something, make a corp match instead of ruining the experience of new players

IDK if you're a student at D-UNI or better represent them but I read bullkitten like this and think less of them. There's public tweets between devs and Immobile Infantry, it was discussed in IRC, there's an easily visible conversation between the two and you're making things up because of some kind of anti-Goon agenda.

Why are you so dishonest?

I only represent myself, also I specifically stated that this my point of view and if this is wrong then please answer those questions:

if they were testing something, please tell me why sammus420 was using it already last week, why have they used it in pub matches "for testing" when they could aswell make a corp match? and if it was for testing why was sammus420 teamkilling other players instead of his corpmates? as you can see in the thread I linked (which ironically is about II teamkilling others and you could provoke the bug via teamkilling), I already knew about this before so I am not making up things.

I'm not a Goon, nor can I speak for them, but I imagine any abuse of the exploit was the act of an individual.

I've seen Immobile Infantry leadership very clearly, after they immediately told CCP, pass on a "stop doing this". I've seen Cerebral Wolf dismiss the idea of sharing the exploit until it's fixed. I've seen internal discussion focused on fixing a gamebreaking bug and I've seen conversations between CCP and II focused on solving the problem.

EDIT: Also, +1 for the reasonable response to a fairly hostile post.

Are you rewarding someone for something they should do anyways? Just because they be gooning? Just question, no tone intended.

...but you're totally welcome to think that despite allegedly being made aware of the issue by several parties CCP decided only to reward Immobile Infantry because something something "they claimed the reward".

that is not my point, the point is, the bug was used by a II member in pub matches before it was passed over to CCP, you cant convince anyone that teamkilling other players in pub matches to benefit from a bugand slaugher the opposition via multiple orbital strikes is for GÇPtestingGÇ£. The players affected are only left with bad experience while II got rewarded.

Funny, according to your timeline I reported I reported sammus exploiting the bug the same day ( link ), where is my reward? Not my fault that CCP is too slow at reading my rants *trollface*

2. during this they discovered this bug and had some fun with multiple orbitals (see the thead I linked, where I accused sammus of doing it and they asked me GÇPif I have any proofGÇ£, note that this case was already reported by me back then via the ticket system)

I reported I reported sammus exploiting the bug the same day ( link )

I am always reasonable, even when I am hostile

this is my theory what actually really happened
1. some guys on II were teamkilling for fun or to punish afk people (sammus admitted it in the thread I linked that he was teamkilling)
2. during this they discovered this bug and had some fun with multiple orbitals (see the thead I linked, where I accused sammus of doing it and they asked me GÇPif I have any proofGÇ£, note that this case was already reported by me back then via the ticket system)
3. the directors of II said to stop the teamkilling and discussed internally whats going on (again see the thread I linked were Cerebral Wolf said to stop it and discuss it internally)
4. the buguser shared the exploit with the directors
5. the directors decided to share it with CCP and claim the reward for something most likely several people already reported via the ticket system
6. CCP fixed the issue
7. II posts a thread about how it works and "confirms" my theory

I was randomly placed with sammus and his corp buddies into a pub match few times and saw him doing it, so that is why I guess it was actually him discovering it during a teamkilling spree and if you check the threads my theory makes a lot of sense from an outsiders point of view (I dont know what was going on in the background that is why I can only assume). Imho it does not matter if it was act of an individual, it is a difference if you have your own opinion or actually do something "bad" under the flag of someone else, II should take action and atleast apologize for ruining the matches of some poor players looking for fun but now the statement is "sorry bro, bad luck it was for testing, it is all fine". I do not begrudge that they got reward for it but anyone that was actually affected and received bad game experience by their actions during the so called "testing" should also receive a reward because they in fact were part of the testing.

I read this as "wah wah I want attention too!"

You're in a public beta. You got hazed with an exploit that we, as beta testers, are here to find. Your timeline of events is hilariously wrong, by the way.

I read this as a document of what actually happend.

I read this as a document of what actually happend.

II just some corp with a capture card. If anybody is crying for attention it is them.

Looks to me like II is getting a little hostile because they got caught using the exploit. I probably would have had some fun with it before reporting it or until I got caught also.

(5:05:12 PM) CerebralWolf: I've got something in Dust that's game breakingly bad
(5:05:18 PM) CerebralWolf: We can have unlimited OB's per game

The problem is, we couldn't go public on the bug till after it was fixed, or everyone would have been trying to replicate it. We didn't want the game to descend each match into a race to 2500 WP, and the first past the post got to rule the match thereafter. If CCP hadn't been able to fix it so quickly, OBs probably would have had to be switched off.

Posting about it on the forums before it's fixed on anyone's part is really stupid. It lets everyone know there's a bug. including the ones who would abuse it. If you see a bug in action, report it and stay quiet.

Still pretty clever who ever wondered if they could get two orbitals doing that.

I understand. Exposing it in the forums should get it fixed pretty fast, maybe one reason CCP did act so fast. I dont squad up much, didnt know you lost 50 points with a suicide. Still pretty clever who ever wondered if they could get two orbitals doing that.

Exposing it in the forums should get it fixed pretty fast, maybe one reason CCP did act so fast.

I'm an IT Security Officer in RL and Zero Day Exploits (publicly releasing exploit details before they are patched by the vendor) are NEVER EVER EVER, let me repeat EVER EVER EVER, ahem EVER a good idea. The fact that you wanted II to release one makes me want to beat you over the head with my ISC2 book.

I kid... but seriously, they're bad.

I only represent myself, also I specifically stated that this my point of view and if this is wrong then please answer those questions:

if they were testing something, please tell me why was sammus420 using it already last week, why have they used it in pub matches "for testing" when they could aswell make a corp match? and if it was for testing why was sammus420 teamkilling other players instead of his corpmates? as you can see in my post in the thread I linked (the thread that ironically is about II teamkilling others and you could provoke the bug via teamkilling), I already knew about this before so I am not making up things, evidence is here.

Why was Sammus420 using it last week? Hmmmmmmmmmmm maybe it's because he was one of the people who origionally found it, and since we didn't share it with but a small handful of other goons and the devs, there weren't a lot of people we could test it with. Also, I only used the exploit 4 times, which not exactly the level of abuse you seem to think it was.

Why didn't we do multiple corp matches to test it? Because then we would have been forced to explain how the exploit is done to more people. Instead farming orbitals off pubbies is far easier, and carried less chance of people catching on to what was happening, as evidenced by the thread where people guessed wildly (and incorrectly) how we were doing it.

Why was I teamkilling other players instead of my corp mates? Well this is just lies and slander. Everyone in the Science Squad i was part of can attest that not only were we only killing each other in the squad, we were systematically killing each other to farm maximum orbitals as fast as possible. Grenade ganking pubbies would have slowed down that process.

As for the request for you to back up your claim in the other thread? Well, Goons like to see our names on stuff, and being called out by name is always hillarious to us. It lets us know we've left an impression who's calling us out. And I can tell from how many times you've used my name that I've left one on you.

why did CCP give us a really cool reward for finding the bug

Wait...what?

If so, that's BS; plenty of people have found and reported bugs, both severe and minor, and I'm fairly sure they've never been compensated for their trouble.

because you cant use alt accounts for corp matches right? also I only remember you because you were the guy calling the orbitals... the sad part is, your score was nothing to brag about, even after the orbitals, your corp mates did all the work

Maybe you should've asked nicely, or the scale of your bug wasn't on par with infinite, earth shattering orbitals.

This is nothing new.

Who's whining?

It's an observation, kind of like my observation of how I.I. is pulling a PR campaign to turn their public image around, hence threads like this one

You mean the thread that wasn't made by goons?

And what group would that be?

If it's supposed to be an incentive, you'd think they'd actually share that with people, not just those who've been playing EVE for years

Actually we have zero history with the Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz, and had nothing to do with this thread. We're not allies, we don't hang out in the same chats, we have no contact with them at all to my knowledge. But I do think it's nice of them to recognize us as actual beta testers looking for bugs and stuff and not just people concerned about our K/D. But this is going off topic.

Goons? Or whatever the whole group is called. You're allied, is that better?

Don't play stupid, you was in II up till about 2 months ago. You know we've nothing to do with PFBHz.. you're just trying to **** stir for some reason.

The groups that was in our chat channels in the past was Betamax and Seraphim but that's all changed and going back about 6 months for SI and 3 weeks for betamax.

We don't want you're respect or your love, we want to rub your nose in it because we can.

confirming I am the Dust alt of The Mittani :P

PS

A lot of the people posting in what was to be a simple pat on the back to II (whether they like it or not lol) and a heads up to everyone else, have proven themselves to be complete b!tches. I look forward to helping crush your corps, ravage your districts and drink your sweet tears.

Sex

because you cant use alt accounts for corp matches right? also I only remember you because you were the guy calling the orbitals... the sad part is, your score was nothing to brag about, even after the orbitals, your corp mates did all the work

We don't want you're respect or your love, we want to rub your nose in it because we can.

It's strange - this is now the second piece of evidence that I.I. may actually be a good group of guys. My understanding of goons is starting to shake lol

Ok, my faith's been restored a little. phew!