Spending 150K on a militia level dropship only to instantly crash it, have it shot down, flip it upside down and run it into the ground, or have some fool steal it has gotten old. It would be nice to have a nice training area so one could learn how to fly these things. It's not the easiest or most intuitive thing in the world.

And I don't need the "Harden Up" or "That's the way it is in New Eden" speech from the EVE geeks in the crowd either. What I and likeminded others will do is take our interests, and my money and support, elsewhere if a game's mechanics are too annoying and the developers are too full of themselves and their creation to change.

I agree. After they changed how they fly i stopped using em.

Spending 150K on a militia level dropship only to instantly crash it, have it shot down, flip it upside down and run it into the ground, or have some fool steal it has gotten old. It would be nice to have a nice training area so one could learn how to fly these things. It's not the easiest or most intuitive thing in the world.

And I don't need the "Harden Up" or "That's the way it is in New Eden" speech from the EVE geeks in the crowd either. What I and likeminded others will do is take our interests, and my money and support, elsewhere if a game's mechanics are too annoying and the developers are too full of themselves and their creation to change.

I disagree.. Thats why we have Militia Gear. Putting your system/idea into effect would eliminate the risk factor. I think suffering builds character and skill. All I can say to new players is TUFF thats how EVE and DUST 514 work, Don't like? Don't play. :)

Actually, you have plenty of training areas in EVE...
Dust? Not so much.

I think suffering builds character and skill.

Spending 150K on a militia level dropship only to instantly crash it, have it shot down, flip it upside down and run it into the ground, or have some fool steal it has gotten old. It would be nice to have a nice training area so one could learn how to fly these things. It's not the easiest or most intuitive thing in the world.

And I don't need the "Harden Up" or "That's the way it is in New Eden" speech from the EVE geeks in the crowd either. What I and likeminded others will do is take our interests, and my money and support, elsewhere if a game's mechanics are too annoying and the developers are too full of themselves and their creation to change.

Until something like this is created, you can always set up dummy corporation contracts and use the empty map to fly about in.

I disagree.. Thats why we have Militia Gear. Putting your system/idea into effect would eliminate the risk factor. I think suffering builds character and skill. All I can say to new players is TUFF thats how EVE and DUST 514 work, Don't like? Don't play. :) If you don't like this speech TUFF... You will always get this because we love how EVE is. In fact go back to COD or some other fps.. Prob be better for you.

And I don't need the "Harden Up" or "That's the way it is in New Eden" speech from the EVE geeks in the crowd either. What I and likeminded others will do is take our interests, and my money and support, elsewhere if a game's mechanics are too annoying and the developers are too full of themselves and their creation to change.

A dropship costs 150K each. For those of you who are veterans of both EVE and have been with Dust since the Summer of 2012, I'm sure that is a drop in the bucket. For newer players, or those who have yet to discover the game, that is or will be a bit steep.

Heres a post from the Rookie Training about internal corp matches

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=68300&find=unread

I can see another way out of this... Let us receive a militia dropship blueprint. Like the one everybody has for a LAV...

Until then just do two ambushes in starter fit to earn isk for one Gorgon or Viper. It takes half an hour. Then you can play skirmish to train slow flying in your red zone near the blue mcc... I know it will be gone in a matter of seconds. I play ambush until my Gorgon stock reaches 4-5 vehicles. It is less frustraiting if you can call in another dropship to continue learning. Just try to forget all this burned ISK and focus on learning. There is thread on dropship flying in Rookie Training.

I can see another way out of this... Let us receive a militia dropship blueprint. Like the one everybody has for a LAV...

What builds character and skill is effort rewarded and the opportunity to engage in learning. It is a childs mind that thinks suffering builds character. Suffering causes distress and disappointment.

We should reward those who make an effort to learn, or demonstrate a willingness to try; not punish or frustrate them. There is no valid argument against providing an environment where players can learn how the game functions. This is an industry standard, one EVE shares. This is because games need to be more enjoyable than not and as consumer products meet or exceed the customers satisfaction with them.

A game that has high cost items some purchased with real money needs to show you how they work. This is fair.

I was playing Planetside 2 in the training area and crashed about 8 Reavers in about 4 minutes trying to get my mouse sensitivity correct and thinking about using keyboard instead of mouse and switching back. Then I lost another 4 trying to fly under overpasses then I lost another 5 dogfigthing and crashing. I'd say I finished losing about 20 of them before I got the hang of it. (Yea thats bad, but normally I don't play flight sims)

so in about 4 hours I would have blown about 3 million isk. Thats a pretty big chunk for any newbies.

+1 i applaud you good sir

3 million?
D:<
3 MILLION?!?



In four hours, losing a fully equipped myrons at 490k ISK;

Thats close to a billion isk, and i only have barely 1/10th of that amount.