Do it CCP

What he said

Also Kag, you're a fukin idiot for suggesting a switch to grenades before being able to throw it. That's a main reason I stopped playing Ghost Recon, MAG and Socom. It's fukin dumb. I like my weapon IN MY HANDS SO I CAN SHOOT RIGHT AFTER THROW. Not have some dickhead run up to me while I'm switching back and kill me before I get my gun back out.

EDIT 2:
CCP responded with this:
"REQUEST] Grenade button change https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=67990&find=unread
Update: Good idea, however, it isn't clear where the grenade throw button will be after this change. "

I will try to be more clear. Tap L2 to cycle between equipment and grenades, once you select the grenade you want, press R1 to throw it. This is just like selecting and deploying a nanohive or drop uplink.



It does not make sense to dedicate an entire controller button to grenades since players may not even have grenades on their fitting, making the button potentially wasted when there are much better uses for it. It would be better if the grenade button was changed to become a dedicated equipment button, and grenades button.

Make weapons and equipment on separate buttons. Tapping R2 should switch weapons, and tapping L2 for cycling between both grenades and equipment.

The benefits would be great for logistics players, because they could then be able to tap the L2 button to cycle through their equipment instead of having to open the wheel (which can be a pain in a many situations).

It would also open the door for new dropsuits in the future with multiple grenade slots, because being able to cycle through them would allow you to choose which one you want.

Most dropsuits only have one equipment slot (and heavies habe none), so switching to grenades would still be pretty fast.

One other change would have to be made though; you would have to tap (or hold to cook) R1 after selecting a grenade to actually use it.

One button (R2) to cycle weapons, another (L2) to cycle grenades and equipment; MAG had it like that, and it works pretty well for managing lots of items. You can still keep the wheels (hold R2 for weapon wheel, hold L2 for item wheel), though this would make switching to exactly what you want so fast that wheels would be obsolete.

Yes I know controller remapping is coming, but I doubt it will provide such a level of control that we will be able to separate equipment from the item wheel, merge grenade and equipment buttons, and have tap-cycle functionality.


EDIT: Add this as an alternate control scheme if possible

As a mainly heavy, I've no interest in having the grenade button removed from L2. Even if I wasn't a heavy I would still think the same. Having it on L2 means that a player can cook and/or throw a grenade while still being able to fully maneuver using BOTH sticks. Unless your intention is to put the grenade button on another one of the shoulder buttons then this suggestion really isn't for me. And if the idea is to have the grenade as a weapon switch then I'm 100% against your idea.

I run Logi as well, and the wheel is grand. Tapping a button to select what equipment I want to use sounds archaic to me. You can hold down R2 while pushing the stick to select what is wanted with very little fuss. Tapping a button could have you over shooting the item wanted and have to tap through to get them again.

As far as I'm concerned for the moment, until proper player defined key mapping is allowed, the buttons should be left as they are.

I had a similar idea in the closed beta, but everyone siad that it was a dumbass idea. THis was mine:


If you pressed Triangle, you would swap through your weapons and grenade. If you pressed R2, you would swap through your Equipment. If you pressed L2, then you would swap through your Active Modules. If Dropsuits never get them, then it would be R2 for weapons/grenade, and L2 for equipment.

I would appreciate it is you please took the time to read the post, I am not suggesting removing grenades from L2. Please reread it.
I am suggesting making grenades share L2 button with equipment. Tapping L2 would cycle through both grenades and equipment, and pressing R1 to cook and throw the grenade when you cycle through it.

This is kind of frustrating, someone took the time to type all that, but not to carefully read what they're replying to
Also, I suggested it could also be an alternate control scheme (which the game already has) so you wouldn't have to use it if you don't want you. Why would you oppose that?

WTF theres even a thread to whine about button placement jesus btw your idea sucks what game doesn't let u one button throw a grenade