Them thinking they cost you a fortune in suits is the only way they can justify their loss against you. Its the only way they can feel good about them selves.

This read like a rage fulled QQ post

The worst part is that the people who run proto suits and then act like it DOESNT give them an advantage.

I can hit certain assault builds with multiple locus nades and unload an entire SMG in their back and they dont die. If they have ANY skill at all, they will destroy me 1 on1. Are they immortal gods? No. If I beat one 1v1 with militia/standard gear, should they feel bad? Yes.

I usually avoid picking 1on1 fights with people I know are running some higher fits with higher skills (stats, not player skill) so its not usually an issue of "oh man the only reason he beat me was cause of his gear!" But it is 'LOL how did he lose? I had to empty two clips into him and he couldnt hit me!"

Then there are guys who have player skill and gear/skills, and those guys I just have to avoid until I get similar stuff. But the gear/skills in this game do make a difference, especially in smaller 1on1 2on2 type fights. Is it broken? No, its a fun mechanic. Sometimes it feels like 'boss fights.'

But to act like your gear and skills ARENT helping you win/get good stats is just silly.

I personally enjoyed the part where no one cared.

(Although I can imagine some players frustration, went into a match with a Thale set up, and got 30 enemy kills by the time they decided to waste an OB on poor little me :D I lol'd irl).

Do you really think that we care if we lose 5 suits in a game? Do you really think that your efffort makes us sad in any way?

Know this:

Many, myself included, have hundreds of fittings in stock or 100+ M isk, or both. Many of us go game after game without losing a single suit and the ISK just keeps piling up. Pubstomping has come to a point now where I don't even bother to rack up as many kills as possible, these days its more fun to pick people up, shield them with your body and see the poor bluedots scramble back into the fight.

I don't have a single fitting that cost under 200K isk and I'll gladly get drunk and waste 50 of them like I did last weekend, my KDR went 0.09 in just a couple of hours but I did have lots of fun!

My point:

Stop sending me messages like: "I killed you twice, you lost money you scrub", or not least: "If I had a protosuit I would have destroyed you", like the extra shield regen and extra equipment slot for a medkit makes me a God. So chill....

Do you really think that we care if we lose 5 suits in a game? Do you really think that your efffort makes us sad in any way?

Know this:

Many, myself included, have hundreds of fittings in stock or 100+ M isk, or both. Many of us go game after game without losing a single suit and the ISK just keeps piling up. Pubstomping has come to a point now where I don't even bother to rack up as many kills as possible, these days its more fun to pick people up, shield them with your body and see the poor bluedots scramble back into the fight.

I don't have a single fitting that cost under 200K isk and I'll gladly get drunk and waste 50 of them like I did last weekend, my KDR went 0.09 in just a couple of hours but I did have lots of fun!

My point:

Stop sending me messages like: "I killed you twice, you lost money you scrub", or not least: "If I had a protosuit I would have destroyed you", like the extra shield regen and extra equipment slot for a medkit makes me a God. So chill....

as for running proto 24/7? i bet that will change once the market opens up, people who make the proto suits will need to charge a premium and up the price. Course, we might also see advance stuff really jump up in price as it is close to as good as proto, but easier to skill into

Yea, but that's sniping; no one likes snipers. Especially not since lately, you can't kill snipers who are perched up too high, because they become impervious to counter sniping (aka, you shoot them in the head, their shields flare up, and no damage is done)

9/10 times snipers are useless for anything other than stroking their own KD/R

Too many snipers...that is when it is a problem, you only really need one good sniper per team.

anyone in EVE PVP who has been doing it for a while, will generally feel the same way as most dust players feel about proto suits. it only gets painful when running faction gear or the really big ships. losing a 150m-200m battleship is unfortunate, but by no means painful to the veteran EVE combat pilot. the loss rate between Dust and EVE is a large gap as well. I have lost 750m isk in 20 hours of EVE. it really isnt possible to do that in Dust.

as for running proto 24/7? i bet that will change once the market opens up, people who make the proto suits will need to charge a premium and up the price. Course, we might also see advance stuff really jump up in price as it is close to as good as proto, but easier to skill into

Not necessarily, to many bad snipers is definately a problem. I've seen full sniper teams do really well, where most the team played sniper with a couple really good base runners, mostly in tanks.

That is one thing I love about Dust, its the coordination over everything else.

And I've lost Tengus to gate camps. 700m isk lost in twenty minutes because I couldn't be arsed to get someone to scout for me.Sure, losing a ship doesn't get me quite as excited as it did back when I thought a T1 fit Vexor was expensive, but it's always more exciting than in DUST, where PvP allows you to literally print money. PvP should be an isk sink, not an isk source.

but it's always more exciting than in DUST, where PvP allows you to literally print money. PvP should be an isk sink, not an isk source.

Do you really think that we care if we lose 5 suits in a game? Do you really think that your efffort makes us sad in any way?

Know this:

Many, myself included, have hundreds of fittings in stock or 100+ M isk, or both. Many of us go game after game without losing a single suit and the ISK just keeps piling up. Pubstomping has come to a point now where I don't even bother to rack up as many kills as possible, these days its more fun to pick people up, shield them with your body and see the poor bluedots scramble back into the fight.

I don't have a single fitting that cost under 200K isk and I'll gladly get drunk and waste 50 of them like I did last weekend, my KDR went 0.09 in just a couple of hours but I did have lots of fun!

My point:

Stop sending me messages like: "I killed you twice, you lost money you scrub", or not least: "If I had a protosuit I would have destroyed you", like the extra shield regen and extra equipment slot for a medkit makes me a God. So chill....

This is not XBLA dammit..

rofl - so true. Wait till corps actually start paying me for being a ringer and my own corp for CB's. I throw out 10 million this weekened in kamikazes just for lolz. "That guy in proto would never drive his LAV into the red line... .. would.... he? OH CRAP JUMP OUT!" Too late suckers, mwahaha.

Lets see, the highest I saw a person do in proto gear is 900 HP.
That's without any damage mods, any kinetic catalyzers, ANYTHING other than health mods.

An Exile AR has 60 bullets in its clip, and does 750RPM (12.5 bullets per second).
60/12.5 = 4.8
You can unload an Exile clip in 4.8 seconds.
Now, the damage done by a single bullet is 31.4 without any skills what so ever.
34.1 * 12.5 = 392 DPS.

So it would take 2.2 seconds to take down the tankiest of assaults you can get.
I hardly see how it would take two clips in the back and a bunch of locus nades.

Mind you, most people have around 550 HP, because they equip damage mods and don't want to lose speed from armor plates.

So that means less than 1.5 seconds of shooting.
Now, include the damage skills, which add 25% bonus... (Which comes to a total of 490 DPS)
Yeah.

It is an advantage, but Proto suits aren't the source of the power those players have.
Its only a slight aid.

It's because you all stand out, "which do we shoot!?" "THE ONE WHO STANDS OUT!"...."Well I see alot of white..oh! BLACK GUY!" seriously this game creates racism

Why is no one asking OP how he managed to get 100+ Million ISK running all protogear?

Why is no one asking OP how he managed to get 100+ Million ISK running all protogear?

Because a lot of people do. If a family didn't jack me out of 13 mil a week ago I'd be at 50 million right now and I never run stuff under STD for losing games - suits that cost me over 200,000 ISK a death lol

Must be my problem, even when my team is getting steamrolled and I'm getting death after death, I never switch to a free/cheap fit.

How much ISK does farming in the MCC net you? I'm not planning on doing it, just curious.

(...) like the extra shield regen and extra equipment slot for a medkit makes me a God. So chill....

What I don't understand is if the protosuit doesn't make you good then why run it? If people are so good that they don't need the protosuit why don't they just run militia gear? IT's like saying the difference between a lamborgini and a mustang are not the big a difference . the reason I won the race was my driving skills. No you have slightly better gear too.

I have a feeling in about 32 days there are going to be all black suits.

Right, it is the art of cooking that does.

quick edit - I'm nearly 1100 HP.

Lets see, the highest I saw a person do in proto gear is 900 HP.
That's without any damage mods, any kinetic catalyzers, ANYTHING other than health mods.

An Exile AR has 60 bullets in its clip, and does 750RPM (12.5 bullets per second).
60/12.5 = 4.8
You can unload an Exile clip in 4.8 seconds.
Now, the damage done by a single bullet is 31.4 without any skills what so ever.
34.1 * 12.5 = 392 DPS.

So it would take 2.2 seconds to take down the tankiest of assaults you can get.
I hardly see how it would take two clips in the back and a bunch of locus nades.

Mind you, most people have around 550 HP, because they equip damage mods and don't want to lose speed from armor plates.

So that means less than 1.5 seconds of shooting.
Now, include the damage skills, which add 25% bonus... (Which comes to a total of 490 DPS)
Yeah.

It is an advantage, but Proto suits aren't the source of the power those players have.
Its only a slight aid.

What I don't understand is if the protosuit doesn't make you good then why run it? If people are so good that they don't need the protosuit why don't they just run militia gear? IT's like saying the difference between a lamborgini and a mustang are not the big a difference . the reason I won the race was my driving skills. No you have slightly better gear too.

I have a feeling in about 32 days there are going to be all black suits.

KD/R

Are you sure you're not a heavy in denial?

Wouldn't know. The only tme I afk farm is real life emergencies mid game, but from what I gather it's 200,000 ISK

Oh you were speaking of assault suits? Who cares about assault players - scrubs all of em. Runnin' around jumpin like frogs'. :P

Real men wear heavy suits.

Well this is more a flaw on CCPs part. You should never be able to run full proto 24/7 in public games. The point of the proto gear was for it to be used in corp battles and sparingly at that.

Well this is more a flaw on CCPs part. You should never be able to run full proto 24/7 in public games. The point of the proto gear was for it to be used in corp battles and sparingly at that.

Like Alan said above there is no "oh god I died and lost my good stuff" feel like in eve. It's just "meh I got a few hundred who cares?"

That being said right now without PC in place your main focus should be making tons of isk with minimal losses to your own. If you feel that you need a proto suit to do it so be it.

I run proto gear every game, every death, every kill, the most expensive suit I can possibly field.

Still over 50m in my wallet and I've had my protosuit for longer than a month. I've done nothing but gain ISK the entire time, and will continue to use as much proto gear in pubs as I possibly can.

I don't know the meaning of the word mercy.