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General Grodd Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 44	Posted - 2013.04.04 03:29:00 - [1] - Quote A Myron destroyed my tank with 20GJ ion cannons in roughly 7 seconds. It's a gunnlogi with 6k shields and I even used my shield hardener+booster. Maybe he had invested in many skills with damage mods? All I know is that is still unacceptable, and that 20GJ proto blaster turrents should certainly not do that kind of damage to a well fitted HAV. He was hovering in a position that couldn't shoot/aim. Those are for infantry. Not Heavy Vehicles. Now I understand dropships should not be so easily taken down by tanks, but not the other way around either.
Mithridates VI Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 591	Posted - 2013.04.04 03:30:00 - [2] - Quote General Grodd wrote: A Myron destroyed my tank with 20GJ ion cannons in roughly 7 seconds. It's a gunnlogi with 6k shields and I even used my shield hardener+booster. Maybe he had invested in many skills with damage mods? All I know is that is still unacceptable, and that 20GJ proto blaster turrents should certainly not do that kind of damage to a well fitted HAV. He was hovering in a position that couldn't shoot/aim. Those are for infantry. Not Heavy Vehicles. Now I understand dropships should not be so easily taken down by tanks, but not the other way around either. You got outgamed, brah.
Zyrus Amalomyn Militaires-Sans-Frontieres 80	Posted - 2013.04.04 03:32:00 - [3] - Quote Mithridates VI wrote: General Grodd wrote: A Myron destroyed my tank with 20GJ ion cannons in roughly 7 seconds. It's a gunnlogi with 6k shields and I even used my shield hardener+booster. Maybe he had invested in many skills with damage mods? All I know is that is still unacceptable, and that 20GJ proto blaster turrents should certainly not do that kind of damage to a well fitted HAV. He was hovering in a position that couldn't shoot/aim. Those are for infantry. Not Heavy Vehicles. Now I understand dropships should not be so easily taken down by tanks, but not the other way around either. You got outgamed, brah.
Callidus Vanus BetaMax. CRONOS. 6	Posted - 2013.04.04 03:33:00 - [4] - Quote You probably missed the guys with the forge guns sitting behind you.
General Grodd Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 44	Posted - 2013.04.04 03:35:00 - [5] - Quote Callidus Vanus wrote: You probably missed the guys with the forge guns sitting behind you. Nope. Just me and the ship with his gunners.
Mithridates VI Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 592	Posted - 2013.04.04 03:40:00 - [6] - Quote Silly rabbit, ~~Trix~~ 20GJ proto blaster turrets are for ~~kids~~ infantry.
Bojo The Mighty Bojo's School of the Trades 796	Posted - 2013.04.04 03:42:00 - [7] - Quote I've seen proto blasters take out turret installations before. Two focused on one target....especially if the DS has heat sinks and is using the high end compressed...plausible.
Marston VC SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 139	Posted - 2013.04.04 03:46:00 - [8] - Quote Its funny isn't it? trust me man, things like this are going to start happening more and more often. Dropships can mess tanks up if there isn't any proper Anti-air going on. Lav's can do it too though its a bit more difficult. Imagine a logistics LAV tanked to be like a Sica only it moves three times faster, and has a full AV squad in it with a proto rail gun on the back. That is AV on wheels man.
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 529	Posted - 2013.04.04 03:47:00 - [9] - Quote Yes it's a valuable tactic I use to take out tanks. Two ADV scattered blasters focused on a tank at the same time can easily take out a tank if everyone is skilled enough.
Alan-Ibn-Xuan Al-Alasabe Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 227	Posted - 2013.04.04 03:47:00 - [10] - Quote If these numbers are right a single proto small blaster turret puts out 602 DPS. That's pretty much exactly enough to take down a 9k eHP Gunnlogi in seven seconds.

Zekain Kade BetaMax. CRONOS. 1142	Posted - 2013.04.04 03:50:00 - [11] - Quote And a proto assault forge can kill a myron in under 6 seconds.
Tiel Syysch Imperfects Negative-Feedback 681	Posted - 2013.04.04 03:51:00 - [12] - Quote Marston VC wrote: Imagine a logistics LAV tanked to be like a Sica only it moves three times faster, and has a full AV squad in it with a proto rail gun on the back. That is AV on wheels man. The only thing threatening in that would be what the people jumping out of the LAV did. Don't logi LAVs still have 50% damage penalty or something for their turrets? Even if that's gone, small railguns have horrible efficiency vs tanks for some reason. So, good luck.
Nguruthos IX Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 186	Posted - 2013.04.04 03:59:00 - [13] - Quote General Grodd wrote: A Myron destroyed my tank with 20GJ ion cannons in roughly 7 seconds. It's a gunnlogi with 6k shields and I even used my shield hardener+booster. Maybe he had invested in many skills with damage mods? All I know is that is still unacceptable, and that 20GJ proto blaster turrents should certainly not do that kind of damage to a well fitted HAV. He was hovering in a position that couldn't shoot/aim. Those are for infantry. Not Heavy Vehicles. Now I understand dropships should not be so easily taken down by tanks, but not the other way around either. Not sure if troll or worse. Either way, you should be ashamed to have posted this.
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1893	Posted - 2013.04.04 04:01:00 - [14] - Quote Mithridates VI wrote: General Grodd wrote: A Myron destroyed my tank with 20GJ ion cannons in roughly 7 seconds. It's a gunnlogi with 6k shields and I even used my shield hardener+booster. Maybe he had invested in many skills with damage mods? All I know is that is still unacceptable, and that 20GJ proto blaster turrents should certainly not do that kind of damage to a well fitted HAV. He was hovering in a position that couldn't shoot/aim. Those are for infantry. Not Heavy Vehicles. Now I understand dropships should not be so easily taken down by tanks, but not the other way around either. You got outgamed, brah. This. Also, may I ask ask where was your logi/anti-tank support when you were getting owned?
Zekain Kade BetaMax. CRONOS. 1142	Posted - 2013.04.04 04:04:00 - [15] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Mithridates VI wrote: General Grodd wrote: A Myron destroyed my tank with 20GJ ion cannons in roughly 7 seconds. It's a gunnlogi with 6k shields and I even used my shield hardener+booster. Maybe he had invested in many skills with damage mods? All I know is that is still unacceptable, and that 20GJ proto blaster turrents should certainly not do that kind of damage to a well fitted HAV. He was hovering in a position that couldn't shoot/aim. Those are for infantry. Not Heavy Vehicles. Now I understand dropships should not be so easily taken down by tanks, but not the other way around either. You got outgamed, brah. This. Also, may I ask ask where was your logi/anti-tank support when you were getting owned? He was probably soloing.
Nguruthos IX Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 186	Posted - 2013.04.04 04:05:00 - [16] - Quote Marston VC wrote: Its funny isn't it? trust me man, things like this are going to start happening more and more often. Dropships can mess tanks up if there isn't [any] Anti-air going on. Lav's can do it too though its a bit more difficult. Imagine a logistics LAV tanked to be like a Sica only it moves three times faster, and has a full AV squad in it with a proto rail gun on the back. That is AV on wheels man. Fixed that for you. No dropship can hover in a single spot with any AV firing at it, at all. AV nades will wipe it out if it's that low. Swarms will knock it into a wall/ground death collision and if nothing else, displace it's position over the tank to where that heavy turret will obliterate the ds. even a militia forge gun will either single handedly kill any max fitted DS, while also knocking it around like a swarm. Also that DS has presumably been on the map for a some ammount of time before flying over near the tank. Did this tank not know it can intercept RDV or take out any vehicle landing with one in seconds because while unoccupied it can't flee or activate modules. Did this tank also not manage to fire at the DS before hand? Doesn't take much..few seconds to kill one. If you lose a tank to a DS and complain about it, you are bad.
Logi Bro Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 1037	Posted - 2013.04.04 04:05:00 - [17] - Quote Alan-Ibn-Xuan Al-Alasabe wrote: If these numbers are right a single proto small blaster turret puts out 602 DPS. That's pretty much exactly enough to take down a 9k eHP Gunnlogi in seven seconds. I must be missing something important. Isn't the formula just a simple DPSxtime=damage output? Wouldn't that be 602x7=4214? That's not even half of 9000.
Caeli SineDeo Imperfects Negative-Feedback 354	Posted - 2013.04.04 04:10:00 - [18] - Quote Do not think Proto small blasters messed him up alone. Because they only do 30% damage to vehicles. they can do really well against infantry when they are able to stay within the area only problem is
Skihids The Tritan Industries 1135	Posted - 2013.04.04 04:11:00 - [19] - Quote Alan-Ibn-Xuan Al-Alasabe wrote: If these numbers are right a single proto small blaster turret puts out 602 DPS. That's pretty much exactly enough to take down a 9k eHP Gunnlogi in seven seconds. It comes to slightly over 1k D/Sec if both the pilot and gunner have 35% damage bonuses. I've got 29% and compressed proto blasters too. One alone can take out an installation in a few seconds. You need both going for a while to kill a tank, but it can work if they can't get under cover and don't have any AV on their side, which doesn't happen often. Just be glad small rails are screwed to hell with 36% effectiveness against HAVs.
Alan-Ibn-Xuan Al-Alasabe Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 227	Posted - 2013.04.04 04:11:00 - [20] - Quote Logi Bro wrote: I must be missing something important. Isn't the formula just a simple DPSxtime=damage output? Wouldn't that be 602x7=4214? That's not even half of 9000. Sorry, my statement was imprecise. A single proto turret does 602 DPS, but the dropship would have two of them fitted. It's the DPS of those two turrets (totalling 1204 DPS) that would give you the damage output necessary to take out a HAV. As you can see it's still a bit shy of 9k, which is why I went with "pretty much", although with damage mods and/or skills thrown into the mix the increase in DPS should be enough to cover that gap.

Skihids The Tritan Industries 1135	Posted - 2013.04.04 04:15:00 - [21] - Quote Logi Bro wrote: Alan-Ibn-Xuan Al-Alasabe wrote: If these numbers are right a single proto small blaster turret puts out 602 DPS. That's pretty much exactly enough to take down a 9k eHP Gunnlogi in seven seconds. I must be missing something important. Isn't the formula just a simple DPSxtime=damage output? Wouldn't that be 602x7=4214? That's not even half of 9000. 602 x 7 x 2, but it's more than that because the pilot has a minimum damage bonus of 21% in order to buy the proto blaster.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 1030	Posted - 2013.04.04 04:19:00 - [22] - Quote Skihids wrote: Logi Bro wrote: Alan-Ibn-Xuan Al-Alasabe wrote: If these numbers are right a single proto small blaster turret puts out 602 DPS. That's pretty much exactly enough to take down a 9k eHP Gunnlogi in seven seconds. I must be missing something important. Isn't the formula just a simple DPSxtime=damage output? Wouldn't that be 602x7=4214? That's not even half of 9000. 602 x 7 x 2, but it's more than that because the pilot has a minimum damage bonus of 21% in order to buy the proto blaster. Not to mention that the gunners skills stack on top of that.
Rusty Shallows Black Jackals 32	Posted - 2013.04.04 04:23:00 - [23] - Quote It's easy to laugh at a pilot who spends time training Small Missile Turrets to 5. Then his crew start three shooting Turret Installations and things get a little scary. Can only imagine how that translates with Small Blasters, Eve-style.
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 529	Posted - 2013.04.04 04:26:00 - [24] - Quote They called me crazy when I skilled into armour dropships with blaster turrets. BUT WHO'S LAUGHING NOW JOE! WHO'S LAUGHING NOW
Skihids The Tritan Industries 1135	Posted - 2013.04.04 04:26:00 - [25] - Quote A pilot flying two of those turrets most likely has dedicated gunners with 20%+ damage skills to stack on his. It's a pretty sight to see when they mow down infantry and blow up vehicles.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 1030	Posted - 2013.04.04 04:35:00 - [26] - Quote Rusty Shallows wrote: It's easy to laugh at a pilot who spends time training Small Missile Turrets to 5. Then his crew start three shooting Turret Installations and things get a little scary. Can only imagine how that translates with Small Blasters, Eve-style. I've got small missiles at lv4 and am planning to max it and get proficiency up to a point where i can use proto cycled missiles, tanks (like grodds) will fall before me, and turrets will have all the permanence of a sand castle HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Zekain Kade BetaMax. CRONOS. 1143	Posted - 2013.04.04 04:37:00 - [27] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: They called me crazy when I skilled into armour dropships with blaster turrets. BUT WHO'S LAUGHING NOW JOE! WHO'S LAUGHING NOW that forge gun that's pelting you from 300 meters away. Oh, and those three vollys of milita swarms. And maybe that sniper tank that's hiding in the redline.
copy left Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 82	Posted - 2013.04.04 04:38:00 - [28] - Quote General Grodd wrote: A Myron destroyed my tank with 20GJ ion cannons in roughly 7 seconds. It's a gunnlogi with 6k shields and I even used my shield hardener+booster. Maybe he had invested in many skills with damage mods? All I know is that is still unacceptable, and that 20GJ proto blaster turrents should certainly not do that kind of damage to a well fitted HAV. He was hovering in a position that couldn't shoot/aim. Those are for infantry. Not Heavy Vehicles. Now I understand dropships should not be so easily taken down by tanks, but not the other way around either. WTF IS A "TURRENT"? WTH
Skihids The Tritan Industries 1135	Posted - 2013.04.04 04:38:00 - [29] - Quote I could skill back into missiles, but I'm waiting to see if we get laser turrets or the small rails get fixed in the next build. Missiles just left a bad taste in my mouth after the nerf.
Skihids The Tritan Industries 1135	Posted - 2013.04.04 04:40:00 - [30] - Quote copy left wrote: General Grodd wrote: A Myron destroyed my tank with 20GJ ion cannons in roughly 7 seconds. It's a gunnlogi with 6k shields and I even used my shield hardener+booster. Maybe he had invested in many skills with damage mods? All I know is that is still unacceptable, and that 20GJ proto blaster turrents should certainly not do that kind of damage to a well fitted HAV. He was hovering in a position that couldn't shoot/aim. Those are for infantry. Not Heavy Vehicles. Now I understand dropships should not be so easily taken down by tanks, but not the other way around either. WTF IS A "TURRENT"? WTH It's a combination of turret and torrent. When a turret pours damage down so heavily that you feel like you are in a thunderstorm.



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