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Eris Ernaga HAV Deployment Organization 86	Posted - 2013.04.03 03:10:00 - [1] - Quote Please fix grenade spam this includes flux and anti vehicle grenades it's annoying that mercs can just throw down a nano hive or stand on a supply depo and throw constant grenades. It makes them more effective then a forge gunner and very op. Please fix by reducing the amount of grenades that can be refilled and after that amount is reached reducing the time you get new grenades. Do not apply this anything outside of grenades because it isn't really needed. I use av grenades and I have just stood behind a supply depo and chucked them over the depo until I destroy a well built tank. I suggest players can only refill to the max grenades they can hold so if I can hold a total of 3 grenades I can refill only a total of 3 after that time I can only refill on 1 grenade every 10 or 20 seconds. If 30 or 1 minute passes without me resupplying I can once again refill on my max number of grenades instantly.
Solarisjock Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 19	Posted - 2013.04.03 03:30:00 - [2] - Quote no. just no. grenades do not need a nerf. if the tank driver is not smart enough to drive another 0-30 meters away from you, then he should get blown to itty bitty bits. and as for a nano hive, they deplete those really quick, you only get another 10-15 IIRC nades outta the standard one. and once again, if a tank is silly enough to stay with in hand thrown grenade range without infantry support, it deserves to die
Rusty Shallows Black Jackals 32	Posted - 2013.04.03 03:49:00 - [3] - Quote Solarisjock wrote: they deplete those really quick Yeah no joke. I've seen it backfire with someone spamming locus grenades while my HMG is feeling light in the ammo drum.
Eris Ernaga HAV Deployment Organization 86	Posted - 2013.04.03 05:45:00 - [4] - Quote av grenades can be tossed very fat and they latch on to vehicles so no they still needa nerf how fast u can get grenades. Plus an extra 3 grenades before a timer starts is very good in it self. tankers in a tight fit where they can barely squeeze out and probably will run into walls can not simply back up and at the speed a player can resupply and throw grenade after grenade is just to much.
TheEnd762 Algintal Core Gallente Federation 19	Posted - 2013.04.03 06:13:00 - [5] - Quote -1 The guy in the rolling death machine is whining about the peon on foot being able to kill him in 30 seconds when he's standing still.
RINON114 B.S.A.A. 80	Posted - 2013.04.03 06:21:00 - [6] - Quote Eris Ernaga wrote: av grenades can be tossed very fat and they latch on to vehicles so no they still needa nerf how fast u can get grenades. Plus an extra 3 grenades before a timer starts is very good in it self. tankers in a tight fit where they can barely squeeze out and probably will run into walls can not simply back up and at the speed a player can resupply and throw grenade after grenade is just to much. Don't get yourself into a tight spot then. If you're killing tanks in these positions then they are bad drivers, if it's the other way then you need some more driving lessons.
Eris Ernaga HAV Deployment Organization 86	Posted - 2013.04.03 09:27:00 - [7] - Quote TheEnd762 wrote: -1 The guy in the rolling death machine is whining about the peon on foot being able to kill him in 30 seconds when he's standing still. bro can you type something intelligent im talking about ending grenade spam which is quite annoying. I get annoyed watching people toss over 10 grenades over a wall its ridiculousness and needs to be stopped.
Eris Ernaga HAV Deployment Organization 86	Posted - 2013.04.03 09:28:00 - [8] - Quote RINON114 wrote: Eris Ernaga wrote: av grenades can be tossed very fat and they latch on to vehicles so no they still needa nerf how fast u can get grenades. Plus an extra 3 grenades before a timer starts is very good in it self. tankers in a tight fit where they can barely squeeze out and probably will run into walls can not simply back up and at the speed a player can resupply and throw grenade after grenade is just to much. Don't get yourself into a tight spot then. If you're killing tanks in these positions then they are bad drivers, if it's the other way then you need some more driving lessons. your a fool the best tankers find them selves making bad decisions, Dust is feeled with bad situations the idea that you think its a 100% driver error shows how little you know about dust.
Godin Thekiller KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND 29	Posted - 2013.04.03 09:39:00 - [9] - Quote If you cook AV nades, they go farther, and they're not avoidable. EVER. Plus, they do about 2500 damage to Armor if it hits it in the front. Ive seen dropships way high in the sky get downed by a packed AV nade. NOw, flux, it's just has a little bit too high damage. dropping them by 100-200 will mak ehtem perfect. After, if a flux grenade thread comes out talking about anything other than praise will be shut down by force.
BOZ MR BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire 47	Posted - 2013.04.03 12:37:00 - [10] - Quote Solarisjock wrote: no. just no. grenades do not need a nerf. if the tank driver is not smart enough to drive another 0-30 meters away from you, then he should get blown to itty bitty bits. and as for a nano hive, they deplete those really quick, you only get another 10-15 IIRC nades outta the standard one. and once again, if a tank is silly enough to stay with in hand thrown grenade range without infantry support, it deserves to die People who think like this got used to easy mode. Av should get nerfed and tanks should get buffed.

Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 2365	Posted - 2013.04.03 13:28:00 - [11] - Quote Eris Ernaga wrote: It makes them more effective then a forge gunner If this was true, then you'd be right, and AV Grenade spam would be OP. Fortunately, no matter how many AV Grenades I throw while wearing my Scout suit and hiding behind a Supply Depot, the game never gives me a Forge Gun. NOTE: In case it's not clear, when I said "if this was true", I was referring to the actual wording of the quote, not the intent that can be easily understood by ignoring the obvious grammatical error.
BOZ MR BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire 47	Posted - 2013.04.03 13:59:00 - [12] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: Eris Ernaga wrote: It makes them more effective then a forge gunner If this was true, then you'd be right, and AV Grenade spam would be OP. Fortunately, no matter how many AV Grenades I throw while wearing my Scout suit and hiding behind a Supply Depot, the game never gives me a Forge Gun. NOTE: In case it's not clear, when I said "if this was true", I was referring to the actual wording of the quote, not the intent that can be easily understood by ignoring the obvious grammatical error. Av nades are OP. Both swarms and Av nades should be nerfed. Tanks should buffed a lot.
Knight SoIaire Better Hide R Die 141	Posted - 2013.04.03 14:25:00 - [13] - Quote They need to get rid of the 'Panic Button', grenades should have to be switched to just like equipment, and then you have to press R1 to cook and throw it. Just like in MAG.
Daedric Lothar Onslaught Inc 71	Posted - 2013.04.03 14:45:00 - [14] - Quote -1 Nade spam is fun, no nerf to fun activities.
eveningstargems kali's hoarde 0	Posted - 2013.04.03 21:49:00 - [15] - Quote Eris Ernaga wrote: TheEnd762 wrote: -1 The guy in the rolling death machine is whining about the peon on foot being able to kill him in 30 seconds when he's standing still. bro can you type something intelligent im talking about ending grenade spam which is quite annoying. I get annoyed watching people toss over 10 grenades over a wall its ridiculousness and needs to be stopped. ^cause this exemplifies intelligence? its war... deal with the problems that exist. dying at when you spawn is hell when a tank rolls up on the last spawn point or people camping out on drop uplinks.... these are things that suck but its war... learn how to overcome obstacles or stop playing.
eveningstargems kali's hoarde 0	Posted - 2013.04.03 21:52:00 - [16] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: If you cook AV nades, they go farther, and they're not avoidable. EVER. Plus, they do about 2500 damage to Armor if it hits it in the front. Ive seen dropships way high in the sky get downed by a packed AV nade. NOw, flux, it's just has a little bit too high damage. dropping them by 100-200 will mak ehtem perfect. After, if a flux grenade thread comes out talking about anything other than praise will be shut down by force. I have thrown every variety of AV grenade at a dropship with no effect... so ?
Mithridates VI Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 590	Posted - 2013.04.03 22:09:00 - [17] - Quote Eris Ernaga wrote: your a fool the best tankers find them selves making bad decisions, Dust is feeled with bad situations the idea that you think its a 100% driver error shows how little you know about dust. Okay, here's how DUST works... when you make a bad decision, you die.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 1023	Posted - 2013.04.03 22:15:00 - [18] - Quote Mithridates VI wrote: Eris Ernaga wrote: your a fool the best tankers find them selves making bad decisions, Dust is feeled with bad situations the idea that you think its a 100% driver error shows how little you know about dust. Okay, here's how DUST works... when you make a bad decision, you die. I've seen tanks die incredibly quickly because they charged into bad situations or waited too long before falling back, but i've also seen tanks plough through my entire team indiscriminately getting 10+ kills in a couple of minutes and then falling back before we could retaliate. TL;DR: a tank is only as good as its pilot, and everyone loses vehicles occasionally, stop trying to turn your tank into god mode.
Jathniel G I A N T 127	Posted - 2013.04.04 00:38:00 - [19] - Quote Just get rid of the homing AV grenade. Problem solved. Spamming flux grenades is fine. It's the only way a weaker team can effectively repel, and BEAT, a proto-assault team. Why take that away from them?
slypie11 Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 96	Posted - 2013.04.04 00:42:00 - [20] - Quote BOZ MR wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: Eris Ernaga wrote: It makes them more effective then a forge gunner If this was true, then you'd be right, and AV Grenade spam would be OP. Fortunately, no matter how many AV Grenades I throw while wearing my Scout suit and hiding behind a Supply Depot, the game never gives me a Forge Gun. NOTE: In case it's not clear, when I said "if this was true", I was referring to the actual wording of the quote, not the intent that can be easily understood by ignoring the obvious grammatical error. Av nades are OP. Both swarms and Av nades should be nerfed. Tanks should buffed a lot. I hope your being sarcastic, because things are just fine. Bad tanks with bad drivers die quickly, good tanks with good drivers end the match 25-0.

Eris Ernaga HAV Deployment Organization 87	Posted - 2013.04.04 04:01:00 - [21] - Quote Honestly do any of you even know how to play the game? you support grenade spam which is op then complain that tanks are op. That makes no since to me, supporting the op of one thing and claiming another is op while it is not is dumb to me. I liked the guy who suggested having to switch to grenades like equipment, would slow down all you kids who think grenade spam is fair. It's a dumb system and needs to be fixed because it is obviously broken. And stop telling me how Dust works and that this is war first of all dust is a video game it is not war go join the military that is war. Secondly Dust is still in beta everything is subject to change so stop telling me your opinion and enforcing it like it is law. Go to another forum and blab about how your way is the right way there.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 753	Posted - 2013.04.04 04:11:00 - [22] - Quote No.
Rusty Shallows Black Jackals 32	Posted - 2013.04.04 04:12:00 - [23] - Quote slypie11 wrote: BOZ MR wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: Eris Ernaga wrote: It makes them more effective then a forge gunner If this was true, then you'd be right, and AV Grenade spam would be OP. Fortunately, no matter how many AV Grenades I throw while wearing my Scout suit and hiding behind a Supply Depot, the game never gives me a Forge Gun. NOTE: In case it's not clear, when I said "if this was true", I was referring to the actual wording of the quote, not the intent that can be easily understood by ignoring the obvious grammatical error. Av nades are OP. Both swarms and Av nades should be nerfed. Tanks should buffed a lot. I hope your being sarcastic, because things are just fine. Bad tanks with bad drivers die quickly, good tanks with good drivers end the match 25-0. I was wondering the same thing. That or he was trolling. One thing I really do no want to see is HAVs becoming the easy-win-button again. Nerfing AVs in any way is a great start to working our way back to that place.
Eris Ernaga HAV Deployment Organization 87	Posted - 2013.04.04 04:17:00 - [24] - Quote Your confused to think tanks are op you get on the forums and complain about one bad match without realizing how fragile and powerful tanks are. It depends on who you are fighting, avers are the best against tanks so if you have them on your team tanks are fragile. If you play with a bunch of noobs and are getting dominated by tanks which it sounds like is happening to you you will get on the forums and cry QQ against tanks. Bottom line you are qqing noobs and know av grenade spam is unfair but support it anyway because you don't know how to deal with tankers and secretly want to get back at them.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 753	Posted - 2013.04.04 04:19:00 - [25] - Quote Eris Ernaga wrote: Your confused to think tanks are op you get on the forums and complain about one bad match without realizing how fragile and powerful tanks are. It depends on who you are fighting, avers are the best against tanks so if you have them on your team tanks are fragile. If you play with a bunch of noobs and are getting dominated by tanks which it sounds like is happening to you you will get on the forums and cry QQ against tanks. Bottom line you are qqing noobs and know av grenade spam is unfair but support it anyway because you don't know how to deal with tankers and secretly want to get back at them. Why don't you learn how to deal with AV grenade spammers? It's called infantry, or did you forget about your own teammates?
dalt ud Vacuum Cleaner. LLC 85	Posted - 2013.04.04 09:34:00 - [26] - Quote bad idea, it is only chance to destroy good shield tank. and even it too often not help
Daedric Lothar Onslaught Inc 86	Posted - 2013.04.04 11:37:00 - [27] - Quote Eris, you are very hostile to the people in this thread. Grenade spam isn't OP and Tanks aren't OP, at least in any game breaking way. I've seen Tanks do very well when played right and I've seen grenade spam do very well when played right. Both are legit tactics. People come to the forums to complain, thats what the forums are for. See, at the beginning of my post I complained you are being hostile. So get over it unless you have something legit to add to the conversation other then YOU are wrong and I am right.
Kitty Buket Silver Bullet Solutions 3	Posted - 2013.04.04 19:32:00 - [28] - Quote Bull crap, i dislike this idea about slowing down grenade throwing and resupplying, its total crap, im the one who spends isk on my grenades so ill decide how many to throw and where and when to throw them dude just like you can decide to where & when to bring a tank. this logic is like saying i dont like getting killed by random bullets or people wasting so i only need to be able to fire my weapon at people when i have a clear line of sight for a minimum of 1.5 seconds. dumb as hell if the guy nade spaming thinks its cost effective to spend all his isk on nanohives and nades thats his business just like some other people think its cost effective to skill up, purchase modules and fit a tank , and honestly i want to see a suit that has 2 slots for grenades so i can carry 2 types of grenades.
Aegis Scientiafide Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 4	Posted - 2013.04.04 19:47:00 - [29] - Quote Eris Ernaga wrote: Please fix grenade spam this includes flux and anti vehicle grenades it's annoying that mercs can just throw down a nano hive or stand on a supply depo and throw constant grenades. It makes them more effective then a forge gunner and very op. Please fix by reducing the amount of grenades that can be refilled and after that amount is reached reducing the time you get new grenades. Do not apply this anything outside of grenades because it isn't really needed. I use av grenades and I have just stood behind a supply depo and chucked them over the depo until I destroy a well built tank. I suggest players can only refill to the max grenades they can hold so if I can hold a total of 3 grenades I can refill only a total of 3 after that time I can only refill on 1 grenade every 10 or 20 seconds. If 30 or 1 minute passes without me resupplying I can once again refill on my max number of grenades instantly. The first question that comes to mind is: What the hell was that guy doing standing there all that time? If you see a flurry of grenades coming from a supply depot, move!
Eris Ernaga HAV Deployment Organization 89	Posted - 2013.04.04 22:26:00 - [30] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: Eris Ernaga wrote: Your confused to think tanks are op you get on the forums and complain about one bad match without realizing how fragile and powerful tanks are. It depends on who you are fighting, avers are the best against tanks so if you have them on your team tanks are fragile. If you play with a bunch of noobs and are getting dominated by tanks which it sounds like is happening to you you will get on the forums and cry QQ against tanks. Bottom line you are qqing noobs and know av grenade spam is unfair but support it anyway because you don't know how to deal with tankers and secretly want to get back at them. Why don't you learn how to deal with AV grenade spammers? It's called infantry, or did you forget about your own teammates? Constantly jumping to conclusions about how I play I bet if I played you in game you'd be easy meat kid so be quite and fall in line behind me.



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