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Posted - 2013.04.04 00:42:00 -
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BOZ MR wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:Eris Ernaga wrote:It makes them more effective then a forge gunner If this was true, then you'd be right, and AV Grenade spam would be OP. Fortunately, no matter how many AV Grenades I throw while wearing my Scout suit and hiding behind a Supply Depot, the game never gives me a Forge Gun. NOTE: In case it's not clear, when I said "if this was true", I was referring to the actual wording of the quote, not the intent that can be easily understood by ignoring the obvious grammatical error. Av nades are OP. Both swarms and Av nades should be nerfed. Tanks should buffed a lot.
I hope your being sarcastic, because things are just fine. Bad tanks with bad drivers die quickly, good tanks with good drivers end the match 25-0. |
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Posted - 2013.04.04 22:40:00 -
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Eris Ernaga wrote:Daedric Lothar wrote:Eris, you are very hostile to the people in this thread. Grenade spam isn't OP and Tanks aren't OP, at least in any game breaking way. I've seen Tanks do very well when played right and I've seen grenade spam do very well when played right. Both are legit tactics.
People come to the forums to complain, thats what the forums are for. See, at the beginning of my post I complained you are being hostile. So get over it unless you have something legit to add to the conversation other then YOU are wrong and I am right. And your a hypocrite forums aren't for complaining there to support CCP with feedback and request you my friend and the rest of these kids are the hostile ones. You come on to my thread telling me what I do in game with out ever playing with me you label me for protecting my self. You are all just trying to protect a unfair system that I have been trying to get rid of don't tell me what I am or what I do in game because you don't know anything about me. Your all coming off as jack asses then when I respond negatively calling me hostile. Wow your all simply pathetic please remove grenade spam it's unfair and I hope CCP will realize spamming 20 grenades over a wall is not fair ^_^. Please do not respond.
Actually, you are the one being hostile. You have an idea and then criticize anyone that doesn't agree with you. You also defend your point with insults, not with facts. The truth is that although grenades shouldn't do quite as much damage as they do, slowing down resupply time and grenade throwing would hinder all infantry, not just AV players. Also, it takes a lot of skill to even get close enough to use an AV grenade, much less use it effectively. |
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Posted - 2013.04.04 23:06:00 -
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Eris Ernaga wrote:Quote:Actually, you are the one being hostile. You have an idea and then criticize anyone that doesn't agree with you. You also defend your point with insults, not with facts. The truth is that although grenades shouldn't do quite as much damage as they do, slowing down resupply time and grenade throwing would hinder all infantry, not just AV players. Also, it takes a lot of skill to even get close enough to use an AV grenade, much less use it effectively. Thought I'd like to point out some things you were completely wrong about first of all it is not hard to skill into grenades or throw them. Yes you are completely wrong it is not hard to throw a grenade at all, all it requires is you move your finger over a button and click it repeatedly thus destroying a tank. Secondly you are wrong again I said hinder grenades resupply time not all resupply times for infantry. Also no you are not making facts most people on this thread are blasting their opinion as if it were fact and insulting me telling me how I play. I do not need a lesson in the game I simply was offering my two cents, you could not see that because it is up to you to to try and destroy feedback threads you don't agree with. Lastly I find it funny because CCP was actually trying to fix grenade spam earlier in the beta so what does that mean. People need to stop acting like this is full release and their way is law everything is still subject to change down to the way our guns shoot and the skills for them. So if you think this removing grenade spam thread is another op just wait it might be that no one can throw that many grenades in the future. Good bye hypocritical hostile kid who likes to label everyone else and tell them how to play even though they have been playing longer then them.
Actually, that was my first post on this thread. I was not telling you how you play, nor was I telling you that my word is law. No matter what I say, CCP has the last say in everything, but hopefully they will listen to the majority. You were also wrong in saying that it is not hard to throw grenades. I didn't say it was hard to throw them, I said it was hard to use them. You have to practically be right next to the tank for the tracking ability to kick in, and no one ever gets that close when someone good is driving the tank. i'm guessing that the thing you are describing was an isolated incident, as I have never seen this happen nor has anyone else posted a thread about it. You also ignored my argument about hindering all infantry instead of just AV, further proving my point that you aren't giving solid facts but merely insulting everyone who proves you wrong. As for your comment about me being a "kid", I think this post has proven who is more mature. Consider yourself "pwned" |
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Posted - 2013.04.04 23:52:00 -
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Thrillhouse Van Houten wrote:I was going to agree with the OP until I realized that it was just another whine thread about the AV/Tank dynamic...
I think the nanohive regeneration and grenade throwing across an INFANTRY battle line gets a little absurd sometimes. You'll have 8 people on each team all throwing grenades without even watching where they are throwing them. Your own teammates are lobbing grenades at walls, bouncing them right at you because they can afford to waste them with the nanohives around (screen shake, red damage indicator and smoke screen abound) until everyone gets blown to hell. It takes any kind of tactics out of making a stand...basically anywhere within throwing range and doesn't do ANYTHING for the game but make it a grenade-spam-to-win style of game. I can press a button!
Make throwing a grenade an actual decision again... My suggestion would be to make nanohives only replenish ammo. Grenades can still be replenished at Supply Depots.
All the people here using the "war is chaos" argument aren't helping make a great point. You can say that in defense of ANY DAMN THING. "Oh my AR is too powerful for you? War is chaos...HTFU!" "Oh, my tank is too powerful for you? War is chaos...HTFU!" "You don't like me spamming my grenades over the wall? War is chaos...HTFU!" It means little and less. Yep, war IS in fact chaos. This isn't war...its a game. Games require balance.
Finally, Eris...grow up. I can't fully agree with your OP because I feel you only posted it in your own self interest and not because you think it will make the game better. You dislike getting AV grenade spammed in your tank? Too freaking bad. You are driving around the strongest weapon in this game, currently, and it has only one drawback: price. Calling everyone "kid" doesn't make you older or smarter than they are, it just makes you look like a condescending d-bag who thinks his opinions are more right. Ditch the personal insults against people that disagree with you and you'll get more traction in arguments, I guarantee it.
Actually, this post made sense. I agree with you completely, now that i've seen the point of view of someone rational. I have gotten into firefights where people continually lob grenades at one another. Especially if there is going to be some defensive bases and stuff, this needs to change. |
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