DUST Search - people say if they add artillary

Delanus Turgias wrote:

Zekain Kade wrote:

Delanus Turgias wrote:

Zekain Kade wrote:

Delanus Turgias wrote:

I don't think you guys understand what artillery is in EvE terms. Arties are the Kinetic version of railguns and lasers, IE long range, long reload time, slow tracking. They're essentially Rails with higher Alpha and longer reload times, plus high PG usage. I highly doubt Arty will work like artillery in BF3 or whatever it is you think it'll work like.

Gravity will have an affect on artillery in this game because we're on PLANETS.

Who are you to make that decision? Do you have any idea the kind of work that would be required for BF3 style artillery? You'd need a whole new UI, a new method for targeting (because reticules wouldn't work for targets that aren't in LOS), and essentially a buttload more work. And really, if you think gravity would affect EvE artillery, you seem to be ignoring the fact that they have LASERS. If they can make lasers, they can make an arty shell with next to no drop on it.

And yet, rail guns, and massdriver slugs are all affected by gravity/ bullet drop off.

We have lasers in real life too, they just aren't as deadly as the ones we use in game.

Rails in dust are not at all affected by gravity. They have travel time, yes. but still. And to you guys talking about physics, refer to the earlier thread about how the railguns in game can't possibly be 80GJ. But nevertheless, the work required would be insane to have the kind of range you want. You'd need a brand new UI unless you simply want to not aim at targets outside of LOS.

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Shadow Archeus Wraith Shadow Guards 58	Posted - 2013.03.31 22:04:00 - [1] - Quote That will get rid of redline snipers...... All it will do is start redline artillery wars..... Just fix hit detection bugs and maybe add a max distance on sniper rifles.....not a massive decrease by make it where you cannot shoot from spawn to spawn........ Just speaking my mind
Zekain Kade BetaMax. CRONOS. 1115	Posted - 2013.03.31 22:07:00 - [2] - Quote adding in jet fighters would stop redline sniping. You can't snipe if you have a fighter picking you off on a strafing run.
Alan-Ibn-Xuan Al-Alasabe Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 214	Posted - 2013.03.31 22:08:00 - [3] - Quote Artillery wars are gonna be awesome, though. If I'm gonna get killed by something I can't see, I'd rather that it require a spotter and involve an explosion.
Shadow Archeus Wraith Shadow Guards 59	Posted - 2013.03.31 22:11:00 - [4] - Quote Alan-Ibn-Xuan Al-Alasabe wrote: Artillery wars are gonna be awesome, though. If I'm gonna get killed by something I can't see, I'd rather that it require a spotter and involve an explosion. IMO not interesting at all.....ooooo wow let's all sit miles away from each other and play battleship......boring
Nemo Bluntz Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 42	Posted - 2013.03.31 22:12:00 - [5] - Quote Just like in Battlefield 3 where everyone just sits around using artillery. There's absolutely no way to balance it out.
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming 517	Posted - 2013.03.31 22:16:00 - [6] - Quote They are adding in artillery whether you like it or not. There's always going to be some way of cowardice tactics and there will be ways to counter them once WE ACTUALLY GET SOME CONTENT...you hear that CCP!?
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 5	Posted - 2013.03.31 22:18:00 - [7] - Quote Shadow Archeus wrote: That will get rid of redline snipers...... All it will do is start redline artillery wars..... Just fix hit detection bugs and maybe add a max distance on sniper rifles.....not a massive decrease by make it where you cannot shoot from spawn to spawn........ Just speaking my mind while you can shoot spawn to spawn now, the maps will grow.
Knight SoIaire Better Hide R Die 116	Posted - 2013.03.31 22:36:00 - [8] - Quote Shadow Archeus wrote: All it will do is start redline artillery wars..... Is that not what Artillery is supposed to do? Shoot from inside their base and on to the battlefield?
Delanus Turgias Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 87	Posted - 2013.03.31 22:46:00 - [9] - Quote I don't think you guys understand what artillery is in EvE terms. Arties are the Kinetic version of railguns and lasers, IE long range, long reload time, slow tracking. They're essentially Rails with higher Alpha and longer reload times, plus high PG usage. I highly doubt Arty will work like artillery in BF3 or whatever it is you think it'll work like.
Vyzion Eyri The Legion Academy 375	Posted - 2013.03.31 22:47:00 - [10] - Quote Simple fix: implement a minimum range on artillery. Get a dropship or LAV to pull you inside that range with explosives, swarms and av nades, and you're good to go.

Yani Nabari One-Armed Bandits Atrocitas 3	Posted - 2013.03.31 23:01:00 - [11] - Quote Shadow Archeus wrote: ... add a max distance on sniper rifles..... I thought sniper rifles already had a max range.
Jotun Hiem The Tritan Industries 509	Posted - 2013.03.31 23:14:00 - [12] - Quote So it'll be like playing Battleship on a DUST battlefield? Why are you complaining?
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 958	Posted - 2013.03.31 23:24:00 - [13] - Quote Delanus Turgias wrote: I don't think you guys understand what artillery is in EvE terms. Arties are the Kinetic version of railguns and lasers, IE long range, long reload time, slow tracking. They're essentially Rails with higher Alpha and longer reload times, plus high PG usage. I highly doubt Arty will work like artillery in BF3 or whatever it is you think it'll work like. That's artillery in space, thus is artillery in atmosphere, battlefield style is how it's probably going to end up.
Zekain Kade BetaMax. CRONOS. 1116	Posted - 2013.03.31 23:24:00 - [14] - Quote Delanus Turgias wrote: I don't think you guys understand what artillery is in EvE terms. Arties are the Kinetic version of railguns and lasers, IE long range, long reload time, slow tracking. They're essentially Rails with higher Alpha and longer reload times, plus high PG usage. I highly doubt Arty will work like artillery in BF3 or whatever it is you think it'll work like. Gravity will have an affect on artillery in this game because we're on PLANETS.
Delanus Turgias Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 88	Posted - 2013.03.31 23:29:00 - [15] - Quote Zekain Kade wrote: Delanus Turgias wrote: I don't think you guys understand what artillery is in EvE terms. Arties are the Kinetic version of railguns and lasers, IE long range, long reload time, slow tracking. They're essentially Rails with higher Alpha and longer reload times, plus high PG usage. I highly doubt Arty will work like artillery in BF3 or whatever it is you think it'll work like. Gravity will have an affect on artillery in this game because we're on PLANETS. Who are you to make that decision? Do you have any idea the kind of work that would be required for BF3 style artillery? You'd need a whole new UI, a new method for targeting (because reticules wouldn't work for targets that aren't in LOS), and essentially a buttload more work. And really, if you think gravity would affect EvE artillery, you seem to be ignoring the fact that they have LASERS. If they can make lasers, they can make an arty shell with next to no drop on it.
Zekain Kade BetaMax. CRONOS. 1116	Posted - 2013.03.31 23:33:00 - [16] - Quote Delanus Turgias wrote: Zekain Kade wrote: Delanus Turgias wrote: I don't think you guys understand what artillery is in EvE terms. Arties are the Kinetic version of railguns and lasers, IE long range, long reload time, slow tracking. They're essentially Rails with higher Alpha and longer reload times, plus high PG usage. I highly doubt Arty will work like artillery in BF3 or whatever it is you think it'll work like. Gravity will have an affect on artillery in this game because we're on PLANETS. Who are you to make that decision? Do you have any idea the kind of work that would be required for BF3 style artillery? You'd need a whole new UI, a new method for targeting (because reticules wouldn't work for targets that aren't in LOS), and essentially a buttload more work. And really, if you think gravity would affect EvE artillery, you seem to be ignoring the fact that they have LASERS. If they can make lasers, they can make an arty shell with next to no drop on it. And yet, rail guns, and massdriver slugs are all affected by gravity/ bullet drop off. We have lasers in real life too, they just aren't as deadly as the ones we use in game.
Autist's Fury Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 16	Posted - 2013.03.31 23:34:00 - [17] - Quote So making a shell travel in a parabolic fashion is right out? Jezus, you got the dumb.
Laheon Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 328	Posted - 2013.03.31 23:37:00 - [18] - Quote Delanus Turgias wrote: Who are you to make that decision? Do you have any idea the kind of work that would be required for BF3 style artillery? You'd need a whole new UI, a new method for targeting (because reticules wouldn't work for targets that aren't in LOS), and essentially a buttload more work. And really, if you think gravity would affect EvE artillery, you seem to be ignoring the fact that they have LASERS. If they can make lasers, they can make an arty shell with next to no drop on it. In effect you can use the mass driver system. Their projectiles are affected by gravity, so you can make it so that there's a larger version of a mass driver. Simple. With practice you can gauge how far away something is, and get the right elevation without needing to do trial and error. Funny how humans work, isn't it? Lasers can't travel through hills. Artillery can travel over. Hence, you can't use lasers to hit enemies hiding behind the hill, but you can use artillery for that same purpose. And as for the arty shell with next to no drop... One, you'd need wings for that, and that would be a rocket, rather than artillery. Artillery relies on propulsion from a gun, whereas rockets rely on propulsion right the way to the target. Well, you'd either need wings or very high speeds, and the very high speeds would only come from a railgun. Which won't happen. Artillery is lore-friendly, and the physics behind it pretty much dictates that it has to dip.
Yani Nabari One-Armed Bandits Atrocitas 3	Posted - 2013.03.31 23:40:00 - [19] - Quote Hmm now that I think about it... wouldn't artillery be that guy you got in Eve waiting to get coord's for some orbital bombardment. Besides, we have enough people complaining about "rail-guns" as it is. We call the people wielding them Red-Line Snipers.
Delanus Turgias Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 89	Posted - 2013.03.31 23:41:00 - [20] - Quote Zekain Kade wrote: Delanus Turgias wrote: Zekain Kade wrote: Delanus Turgias wrote: I don't think you guys understand what artillery is in EvE terms. Arties are the Kinetic version of railguns and lasers, IE long range, long reload time, slow tracking. They're essentially Rails with higher Alpha and longer reload times, plus high PG usage. I highly doubt Arty will work like artillery in BF3 or whatever it is you think it'll work like. Gravity will have an affect on artillery in this game because we're on PLANETS. Who are you to make that decision? Do you have any idea the kind of work that would be required for BF3 style artillery? You'd need a whole new UI, a new method for targeting (because reticules wouldn't work for targets that aren't in LOS), and essentially a buttload more work. And really, if you think gravity would affect EvE artillery, you seem to be ignoring the fact that they have LASERS. If they can make lasers, they can make an arty shell with next to no drop on it. And yet, rail guns, and massdriver slugs are all affected by gravity/ bullet drop off. We have lasers in real life too, they just aren't as deadly as the ones we use in game. Rails in dust are not at all affected by gravity. They have travel time, yes. but still. And to you guys talking about physics, refer to the earlier thread about how the railguns in game can't possibly be 80GJ. But nevertheless, the work required would be insane to have the kind of range you want. You'd need a brand new UI unless you simply want to not aim at targets outside of LOS.

Gersh Raven beta Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 55	Posted - 2013.03.31 23:43:00 - [21] - Quote Delanus Turgias wrote: I don't think you guys understand what artillery is in EvE terms. Arties are the Kinetic version of railguns and lasers, IE long range, long reload time, slow tracking. They're essentially Rails with higher Alpha and longer reload times, plus high PG usage. I highly doubt Arty will work like artillery in BF3 or whatever it is you think it'll work like. Yes, in Eve each of the three gun types has a long range slow firing, and a short range fast firing variant. They are all direct fire weapons. Artillery is the long slow version of the Minmatar's projectile weapons. I think orbital bombardments are the Dust equivalent of real life artillery; you need a spotter to direct the strike. Having said that, I think it would be cool if there was a vehicle/emplacement version of the mass driver, with a ballistic arc that needs to be accounted for.
Zekain Kade BetaMax. CRONOS. 1116	Posted - 2013.03.31 23:47:00 - [22] - Quote Delanus Turgias wrote: Zekain Kade wrote: Delanus Turgias wrote: Zekain Kade wrote: Delanus Turgias wrote: I don't think you guys understand what artillery is in EvE terms. Arties are the Kinetic version of railguns and lasers, IE long range, long reload time, slow tracking. They're essentially Rails with higher Alpha and longer reload times, plus high PG usage. I highly doubt Arty will work like artillery in BF3 or whatever it is you think it'll work like. Gravity will have an affect on artillery in this game because we're on PLANETS. Who are you to make that decision? Do you have any idea the kind of work that would be required for BF3 style artillery? You'd need a whole new UI, a new method for targeting (because reticules wouldn't work for targets that aren't in LOS), and essentially a buttload more work. And really, if you think gravity would affect EvE artillery, you seem to be ignoring the fact that they have LASERS. If they can make lasers, they can make an arty shell with next to no drop on it. And yet, rail guns, and massdriver slugs are all affected by gravity/ bullet drop off. We have lasers in real life too, they just aren't as deadly as the ones we use in game. Rails in dust are not at all affected by gravity. They have travel time, yes. but still. And to you guys talking about physics, refer to the earlier thread about how the railguns in game can't possibly be 80GJ. But nevertheless, the work required would be insane to have the kind of range you want. You'd need a brand new UI unless you simply want to not aim at targets outside of LOS. So what. CCP sprinkled some uneeded lore on the rail guns. That really isn't a big deal. Railguns were once affected by bullet drop off, or gravity in the earlier builds. Get off your EVE high horse. You're fighting a plane, that planet has gravity. Artillery weapons are going to be affected by it, just like their life bros, the massdrivers. The only thing they need is a longer life span while traveling through the map. Having another rail gun like turret in this game would be redundant. The rail gun we have now can kill pretty much anything. We don't need another "type" of rail gun.
Charlotte O'Dell Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 82	Posted - 2013.04.01 00:34:00 - [23] - Quote yes we do or railgun snipers will be the top of the food chain forever.
The dark cloud Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1191	Posted - 2013.04.01 00:36:00 - [24] - Quote Delanus Turgias wrote: I don't think you guys understand what artillery is in EvE terms. Arties are the Kinetic version of railguns and lasers, IE long range, long reload time, slow tracking. They're essentially Rails with higher Alpha and longer reload times, plus high PG usage. I highly doubt Arty will work like artillery in BF3 or whatever it is you think it'll work like. Sure on eve everything shots in a sright line aswell. Doesnt matter if a station or asteroids are between you and the target.If i want a opinion from a Eve player about a FPS game then i could aswell ask a monkey both is bonkers and instantly neglected. Artillery how we know it are long range, indirect fire weapons with explosive effect on a large area. And that is how its going to work out. And we dont need another stright shoting weapon that does more damage then a railgun. Its allready 2-3 shots to destroy a maxed out sagaris/surya. We will get more stright shoting turrets like autocanons and laser turrets.
Laheon Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 328	Posted - 2013.04.01 00:43:00 - [25] - Quote Delanus Turgias wrote: I don't think you guys understand what artillery is in EvE terms. Arties are the Kinetic version of railguns and lasers, IE long range, long reload time, slow tracking. They're essentially Rails with higher Alpha and longer reload times, plus high PG usage. I highly doubt Arty will work like artillery in BF3 or whatever it is you think it'll work like. Projectile weapons also are able to change what kind of damage they deal. Hybrids are only able to deal thermal and kinetic - rails are most effective firing a mass without a payload, due to the inherent way a railgun works. Artillery allows a payload to be fired, for example sending a tactical nuke across the field, or an AV round (depleted uranium), or any other role you may think of. Railguns by their nature fire at ridiculous speeds - artillery (being a projectile weapon, dependent on some form of chemical propellant) is limited to lower speeds. This means they're affected by gravity. In space, there is very little gravitational influence, so arti and autocannon shells fire in straight lines.
Rifter7 Improvise. 174	Posted - 2013.04.01 00:45:00 - [26] - Quote Delanus Turgias wrote: I don't think you guys understand what artillery is in EvE terms. Arties are the Kinetic version of railguns and lasers, IE long range, long reload time, slow tracking. They're essentially Rails with higher Alpha and longer reload times, plus high PG usage. I highly doubt Arty will work like artillery in BF3 or whatever it is you think it'll work like.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 958	Posted - 2013.04.01 00:54:00 - [27] - Quote Rifter7 wrote: Delanus Turgias wrote: I don't think you guys understand what artillery is in EvE terms. Arties are the Kinetic version of railguns and lasers, IE long range, long reload time, slow tracking. They're essentially Rails with higher Alpha and longer reload times, plus high PG usage. I highly doubt Arty will work like artillery in BF3 or whatever it is you think it'll work like. Railguns themselves are kinetic weapons so your point is?
Jotun Hiem The Tritan Industries 510	Posted - 2013.04.01 01:16:00 - [28] - Quote gbghg wrote: Rifter7 wrote: Delanus Turgias wrote: I don't think you guys understand what artillery is in EvE terms. Arties are the Kinetic version of railguns and lasers, IE long range, long reload time, slow tracking. They're essentially Rails with higher Alpha and longer reload times, plus high PG usage. I highly doubt Arty will work like artillery in BF3 or whatever it is you think it'll work like. Railguns themselves are kinetic weapons so your point is? They're defined as 'Hybrid' in the EvE universe, meaning that they deal equal damage to shields and armor. I think this guy is referencing 'Projectile' weapons, which would be traditional cannons/powder based weaponry like the Minmatar SMG and HMG.
Drifter MAGGOT KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 35	Posted - 2013.04.01 01:23:00 - [29] - Quote Yani Nabari wrote: Shadow Archeus wrote: ... add a max distance on sniper rifles..... I thought sniper rifles already had a max range. They do.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 2302	Posted - 2013.04.01 02:18:00 - [30] - Quote As the person who suggested the "artillery counters Redline Sniper" idea, I should probably point out that I wasn't meaning full-scale artillery (which shouldn't be accurate enough). I was suggesting specifically an artillery variant of the Mass Driver. It would still be limited enough in range to be useless across most of the map from the redline, but you could get into position and rain fire down on a sniper from outside their LoS.

SickJ French unchained corporation 50	Posted - 2013.04.01 04:39:00 - [31] - Quote Gersh Raven beta wrote: I think orbital bombardments are the Dust equivalent of real life artillery; you need a spotter to direct the strike. Having said that, I think it would be cool if there was a vehicle/emplacement version of the mass driver, with a ballistic arc that needs to be accounted for. Ground based artillery would probably be like orb strikes except it wouldn't require you to rely on a ship that could bail on you at any time. Having artillery as a turret would be kick ass as well.
WyrmHero1945 IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 83	Posted - 2013.04.01 04:55:00 - [32] - Quote Isn't artillery a large blaster turret??? That range...my dropship.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 2304	Posted - 2013.04.01 04:59:00 - [33] - Quote WyrmHero1945 wrote: Isn't artillery a large blaster turret??? That range...my dropship. Large Blasters are AA turrets, not Artillery.
Heathen Bastard Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 105	Posted - 2013.04.01 05:05:00 - [34] - Quote why not just do the artillery like in BF3? when you go to use it, it locks you in place and brings up the map. from there you aim, fire in an arc, maybe hit around what your were looking for, barring any buildings and such in your way, with a minimum and maximum distance, with a definite bonus if you have a sniper/spotter on the field(mostly being able to call in precision strikes to hard targets or to break zerg rushes through some kind of marking system, or by simply listening to your team)
Epicsting pro Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 11	Posted - 2013.04.01 05:28:00 - [35] - Quote One thing dose not make since is even in space there gravity, soo the computers may auto correct the arc, plus the angle on the ground is form air resistance and gravity that how u get an arc. And with railguns the shot the component fast enuff to slide through the air but again in space the shot have to be time by the gravitys pull.
Laheon Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 336	Posted - 2013.04.01 06:33:00 - [36] - Quote Epicsting pro wrote: One thing dose not make since is even in space there gravity, soo the computers may auto correct the arc, plus the angle on the ground is form air resistance and gravity that how u get an arc. And with railguns the shot the component fast enuff to slide through the air but again in space the shot have to be time by the gravitys pull. Lrn 2 English
Ten-Sidhe Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 439	Posted - 2013.04.01 07:54:00 - [37] - Quote Gravity affects lasers as well, just by such a small amount it isn't noticeable. Rail gun velocities are high enough the drop at ranges involved is not worth coding, hit side of tank 3 inches lower won't matter. Artillery in eve travels straight since it is at ranges and distances the arc wouldn't be noticeable, so it is ignored. EvE artillery is high damage per shoot but slow rate of fire, long range but less accurate at range then other weapons(abstraction of extra calculation computers need to account for arcing not show on screen probably). Real life artillery are the mortars and howitzers, as well as the direct fire siege, field, and assault guns. By EvE meaning of word, the mass driver is a light slot artillery. So, I would assume the larger turret versions will use similar mechanics and be about like modern 155mm howitzers. A Minmatar sniper rifle with bullet drop and extra armour damage would also be artillery in EvE terms.
WyrmHero1945 IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 83	Posted - 2013.04.01 07:55:00 - [38] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: WyrmHero1945 wrote: Isn't artillery a large blaster turret??? That range...my dropship. Large Blasters are AA turrets, not Artillery. Ok you guys are talking about howitzers, in that case a railgun is the most obvious. Although the high speed will require to be very very far from the target lol. They'll have to add a new type of low tech gun so that it doesn't fire that fast. Possibly Minmatar?
Laheon Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 339	Posted - 2013.04.01 07:58:00 - [39] - Quote WyrmHero1945 wrote: Ok you guys are talking about howitzers, in that case a railgun is the most obvious. Although the high speed will require to be very very far from the target lol. They'll have to add a new type of low tech gun so that it doesn't fire that fast. Possibly Minmatar? Artillery =/= railguns. Or blasters. Or missiles. Or whatever else you might be thinking of. Think of artillery in the traditional sense, as in requiring a shell with its own propellant, capable of delivering a payload. That's what we mean. Artillery isn't in the game yet.
WyrmHero1945 IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 83	Posted - 2013.04.01 08:07:00 - [40] - Quote We have improvised artillery like the tank in the mountain or the red line, even the forge gunner in the building. But I would love artillery to be implemented in game, it makes things more interesting. + the sound of a mortar exploding in your face is too cool.

ladwar Dead Six Initiative Daringly Inserting Large Dangerous Objects 70	Posted - 2013.04.01 08:32:00 - [41] - Quote low genius wrote: Shadow Archeus wrote: That will get rid of redline snipers...... All it will do is start redline artillery wars..... Just fix hit detection bugs and maybe add a max distance on sniper rifles.....not a massive decrease by make it where you cannot shoot from spawn to spawn........ Just speaking my mind while you can shoot spawn to spawn now, the maps will Shrink. fixed it for yea
NIKIA BETHUNE Ill Omens 55	Posted - 2013.04.01 09:16:00 - [42] - Quote i'll drop my ar as soon as they release arty
blue gt Algintal Core Gallente Federation 14	Posted - 2013.04.01 11:07:00 - [43] - Quote meh not awarding SP orISK while in the red line would fix red line snipping, but some how it a snipers sovereign ***** right to *** head glitch where no one can get to him. Im sorry if you are stuck in the red lined you **** up bad enough you shouldn't be payed any further income for your collective fail. Snipers in the red line add nothing to their team(exception small five point map), a good hills sniper is great for breaking moral a red line sniper is more helpful to their enemies.
Laheon Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 344	Posted - 2013.04.01 11:10:00 - [44] - Quote gt, wouldn't work. If you're being stomped, then any kills you made in redline (which would be the majoirty of your SP) would be negated, meaning your hard work in trying to break out was for nothing.
Takahiro Kashuken Intara Direct Action Caldari State 180	Posted - 2013.04.01 11:16:00 - [45] - Quote Cant wait for artillery If it works like it does in WOT then it will be uber fun for me and not for everyone else I will be able to drop shells on snipers and bombard the letters at will
Ten-Sidhe Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 441	Posted - 2013.04.01 18:33:00 - [46] - Quote Artillery in eve is Minmatar firing shells, like modern artillery. Background doesn't say if it uses powder to fire charge, electromagnetic acceleration or both. I would figure it will most likely be a big mass driver, arcing shots for indirect fire would need spotter and skill, but could be used as direct fire at lesser range as well. Artillery and autocannon turrets were in menu in old builds, the category was just empty when you selected it.
Shari Lannister Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 20	Posted - 2013.04.01 18:39:00 - [47] - Quote Make drop ships viable with ejection seats and get some deceint gunners and red line snipers are not a problem. I like to squash snipers with my drop ship, though sometimes i blow myself up. I like the idea of Artillary with Snipers laser sighting the rocket propelled round. otherwise give the arty a very high level map that gives them general location but not exacting location, save that for the snipers with laser sites.
The Robot Devil BetaMax. CRONOS. 49	Posted - 2013.04.01 20:32:00 - [48] - Quote Delanus Turgias wrote: I don't think you guys understand what artillery is in EvE terms. Arties are the Kinetic version of railguns and lasers, IE long range, long reload time, slow tracking. They're essentially Rails with higher Alpha and longer reload times, plus high PG usage. I highly doubt Arty will work like artillery in BF3 or whatever it is you think it'll work like. That is what I thought. I am only about a year old and I haven't messed with artilery.
BASSMEANT ZionTCD Legacy Rising 188	Posted - 2013.04.01 20:38:00 - [49] - Quote uh oh. redline vages are gonna have no place to hide. "here, catch!" Peace B
blue gt Algintal Core Gallente Federation 17	Posted - 2013.04.03 00:24:00 - [50] - Quote Laheon wrote: gt, wouldn't work. If you're being stomped, then any kills you made in redline (which would be the majoirty of your SP) would be negated, meaning your hard work in trying to break out was for nothing. and why should you be paid for failing you job so horribly that you can't get out of the red line? you want that pay you push. you're a goddamn merc, I've seen teams red lined in like 3 minutes turn around and win the match because suicide grenadiers forced them to stop snipping. All this bull ** of whhaaaaa I need my red line sp or I have no reason to get back out there is BULLSHIT. you don't wanna fight and die to win you don't get rewards for that **. there is always a way around and there is NO excuse for not pushing, but until there is a tangible incentive to do so people won't they''ll just wait out the timer sitting comfortably in the redline. both when im on the winning and losing side I would rather fight with a team that keeps pushing until it clones out, its far more fun for both sides and actualy makes the match enjoyable.

Tien TheSecond Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 306	Posted - 2013.04.03 01:28:00 - [51] - Quote Artillery: its why you never ask me to repeat anything (except the fire mission). Also artillery is the king of battle, bringing dignity to an otherwise vulgar brawl.


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