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Laheon
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Posted - 2013.03.31 23:37:00 -
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Delanus Turgias wrote:Who are you to make that decision? Do you have any idea the kind of work that would be required for BF3 style artillery? You'd need a whole new UI, a new method for targeting (because reticules wouldn't work for targets that aren't in LOS), and essentially a buttload more work. And really, if you think gravity would affect EvE artillery, you seem to be ignoring the fact that they have LASERS. If they can make lasers, they can make an arty shell with next to no drop on it.
In effect you can use the mass driver system. Their projectiles are affected by gravity, so you can make it so that there's a larger version of a mass driver. Simple. With practice you can gauge how far away something is, and get the right elevation without needing to do trial and error. Funny how humans work, isn't it?
Lasers can't travel through hills. Artillery can travel over. Hence, you can't use lasers to hit enemies hiding behind the hill, but you can use artillery for that same purpose. And as for the arty shell with next to no drop... One, you'd need wings for that, and that would be a rocket, rather than artillery. Artillery relies on propulsion from a gun, whereas rockets rely on propulsion right the way to the target. Well, you'd either need wings or very high speeds, and the very high speeds would only come from a railgun. Which won't happen. Artillery is lore-friendly, and the physics behind it pretty much dictates that it has to dip.
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Laheon
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.04.01 00:43:00 -
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Delanus Turgias wrote:I don't think you guys understand what artillery is in EvE terms. Arties are the Kinetic version of railguns and lasers, IE long range, long reload time, slow tracking. They're essentially Rails with higher Alpha and longer reload times, plus high PG usage. I highly doubt Arty will work like artillery in BF3 or whatever it is you think it'll work like.
Projectile weapons also are able to change what kind of damage they deal. Hybrids are only able to deal thermal and kinetic - rails are most effective firing a mass without a payload, due to the inherent way a railgun works. Artillery allows a payload to be fired, for example sending a tactical nuke across the field, or an AV round (depleted uranium), or any other role you may think of. Railguns by their nature fire at ridiculous speeds - artillery (being a projectile weapon, dependent on some form of chemical propellant) is limited to lower speeds. This means they're affected by gravity. In space, there is very little gravitational influence, so arti and autocannon shells fire in straight lines. |
Laheon
Osmon Surveillance
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Posted - 2013.04.01 06:33:00 -
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Epicsting pro wrote:One thing dose not make since is even in space there gravity, soo the computers may auto correct the arc, plus the angle on the ground is form air resistance and gravity that how u get an arc. And with railguns the shot the component fast enuff to slide through the air but again in space the shot have to be time by the gravitys pull.
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Laheon
Osmon Surveillance
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Posted - 2013.04.01 07:58:00 -
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WyrmHero1945 wrote:Ok you guys are talking about howitzers, in that case a railgun is the most obvious. Although the high speed will require to be very very far from the target lol. They'll have to add a new type of low tech gun so that it doesn't fire that fast. Possibly Minmatar?
Artillery =/= railguns. Or blasters. Or missiles. Or whatever else you might be thinking of.
Think of artillery in the traditional sense, as in requiring a shell with its own propellant, capable of delivering a payload. That's what we mean. Artillery isn't in the game *yet*. |
Laheon
Osmon Surveillance
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Posted - 2013.04.01 11:10:00 -
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gt, wouldn't work. If you're being stomped, then any kills you made in redline (which would be the majoirty of your SP) would be negated, meaning your hard work in trying to break out was for nothing. |
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