In case your wondering, I am a thirteen year old gamer who found this game by accident on the ps store. I had heard about EVE online and an fps with EVE's political intrigue and complicated player driven economy sounded awesome.I decided to try it out, and at first was overhwelmed by all the options and choices. Eventually, I got the hang of it and became a formidable player who valued teamwork with people sometimes twice his age. Even so, I am frequently angered to see comments persecuting younger gamers and corps refusing to except people my age. To me, this is as bad as refusing access to a race or gender, and it must be put to rest

Yet everyone seems to think that all middle schooler play CoD and cry when they lose. I always work as a team, play tactically and support my teammates, but since I'm thirteen, I am suddenly inferior

Same as me. I act and speak maturely, and nobody notices. It helps that my mic isn't so good. I've been in an 18 or older corp for a month and only one person has noticed.

there is sadly plenty of evidence to back that assumption up, the last time i played cod (round a friends house btw, i refuse to buy that piece of crap) my ears were ringing from all the high pitched screaming out of the TV.

That high pitched screaming CAN be entertaining if it's because you're running around shooting the ground with an RPG every time you see someone.

there is sadly plenty of evidence to back that assumption up, the last time i played cod (round a friends house btw, i refuse to buy that piece of crap) my ears were ringing from all the high pitched screaming out of the TV.

agreed actually I need to get my 12 year old sister into this. You're at the perfect age to pick this up and wish I was your age.Halo 1 came out when I was 18 :( before that it was quake and doom :p
I'm 30 btw.

there is sadly plenty of evidence to back that assumption up, the last time i played cod (round a friends house btw, i refuse to buy that piece of crap) my ears were ringing from all the high pitched screaming out of the TV.

The hyperbolic statement comparing disdain for immature children with racism and other such prejudices... really?

In general, children are ignorant because they have not lived long enough to know what they do not know. This is especially so if they grew up in a good home and thus don't know how much the world can suck. Patience with required with children, but due to their ignorance can act like they have all the answers, which can be irritating for grown ups. Fortunately, this tends to be corrected with getting older.

Racism on the other hand, makes value judgements on individuals on a group identity based on superficial, surface attributes. It's a crude form of collectivism which is used to give one self esteem based on the merits of people who vaguely resemble them while condemning others for not vaguely resembling them.

You may be mature for your age, but you're still a kid.

All can be considered forms of discrimination, and the only reason you are arguing this is that culturally we are brought up to believe that decisions should be made by the oldest member in a group.

i prefer following the lead of the CRAZIEST member

i prefer following the lead of the CRAZIEST member

In case your wondering, I am a thirteen year old gamer who found this game by accident on the ps store. I had heard about EVE online and an fps with EVE's political intrigue and complicated player driven economy sounded awesome.I decided to try it out, and at first was overhwelmed by all the options and choices. Eventually, I got the hang of it and became a formidable player who valued teamwork with people sometimes twice his age. Even so, I am frequently angered to see comments persecuting younger gamers and corps refusing to except people my age. To me, this is as bad as refusing access to a race or gender, and it must be put to rest

I am 15 years old, and I had the fear of exactly what OP has described when I bought a mic for Dust. That's why I am extremely happy to be playing with SI guys, for I don't think anyone has ever voiced his or her displeasure with my age there.

Have you ever thought that it is nothing against young people, maybe some adults want to create an evironment where they are free to discuss things unsuitable for young people?

You know what would REALLY be something? What if the kids of DUST made a corp for kids? That would impress me.

Hmm, I see your point, but I meant exactly that prejudice against immature kids who would yell over their mics and what not.

The game is rated T for teen. I am also in agreement that this type of game can actually teach kids some core fundamentals of teamwork and comraderie, but there are other things such as acceptance that empathy that are commonly lacked. For example, disagreeing with corps that make it policy to NOT accept players of certain age. It is their corp and they are free to make the rules as they see fit, and this is actually a sound rule. There is a reason why kids don't get gun licenses until a certain age, they can't drink, they can't smoke, they can't vote, and they aren't allowed to live on their own. Lack of some qualities such as acceptance and empathy as well as hormone distribution which causes some emotional inbalances make it difficult to make responsible decisions on their own. Although, there are adults that show a lower level of maturity that some kids, the difference is these adults are purposely doing it, as the kids are trying not to.

An example is the thread, although mature in its content its purpose is juvenile because it lacks acceptance and empathy. This statement is not offensive nor is it meant to be, but if it is construed as offensive this is also juvenile because of the lack of acceptance and empathy. An example of true maturity would sound like, "adults are right, kids can't handle responsibility, and struggling to attain maturity is futile."

My father once said "You must be young and stupid, before you can be old and wise." Nobody is beyond the grasp of "young and stupid"

Your ignorance astounds me, it really does. In the course of four paragraphs, you have managed to prove my point and disprove your own. There is a reason why kids don't get gun licenses, drink, smoke, or drive. We don't use guns, because, one, we are usually not strong enough to fire one, and two, because certain individuals may not have fully developed a sense of right and wrong, and so it may be misused. However, there are plenty of adults who have misused firearms, as the recent string of gun violence has shown, and so your point is moot. We cannot drink or smoke because children are more likely to become addicted to these substances, and we cannot drive because the part of our brain that processes possible consequences hasn't been fully developed, but that has nothing to do with our interaction with adults. We cannot vote because adults believe us to lack the decision making skills to do so, which I can assure you is unfounded in most cases, and adults have made worse decisions in their choice of leader. We aren't allowed to live on our own because one, we don't have jobs, and two, we currently lack the skills to get a job that would allow us to live on our own.
I like to think I am full of acceptance and empathy, the two traits you mention frequently in your argument and the two you sorely lack. If adults were so overflowing with these, then they would accept children who are willing to work with them as equals, and they would feel empathy toward a child who was not treated as such.
In conclusion, I did not construe your previous post as offensive, I merely took it as someone's misconception that had to be righted. I hope that this has helped in changing your view.

I think I would be willing to accept what you say but I would be discounting 100 years of freudism. It is a proven and widely accepted fact. If you can write an paper that disproves it entirely and is accepted over Sigmund Freud's theories, then I will gladly yield.