DUST Search - Age stereotypes

gbghg wrote:

General Tiberius1 wrote:

gbghg wrote:

Jedah McClintock wrote:

The hyperbolic statement comparing disdain for immature children with racism and other such prejudices... really? What?

In general, children are ignorant because they have not lived long enough to know what they do not know. This is especially so if they grew up in a good home and thus don't know how much the world can suck. Patience with required with children, but due to their ignorance can act like they have all the answers, which can be irritating for grown ups. Fortunately, this tends to be corrected with getting older.

Racism on the other hand, makes value judgements on individuals on a group identity based on superficial, surface attributes. It's a crude form of collectivism which is used to give one self esteem based on the merits of people who vaguely resemble them while condemning others for not vaguely resembling them.

You may be mature for your age, but you're still a kid.

All can be considered forms of discrimination, and the only reason you are arguing this is that culturally we are brought up to believe that decisions should be made by the oldest member in a group.

i prefer following the lead of the CRAZIEST member Lol

Hooch is crazy

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slypie11 Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 77	Posted - 2013.03.31 15:05:00 - [1] - Quote In case your wondering, I am a thirteen year old gamer who found this game by accident on the ps store. I had heard about EVE online and an fps with EVE's political intrigue and complicated player driven economy sounded awesome.I decided to try it out, and at first was overhwelmed by all the options and choices. Eventually, I got the hang of it and became a formidable player who valued teamwork with people sometimes twice his age. Even so, I am frequently angered to see comments persecuting younger gamers and corps refusing to except people my age. To me, this is as bad as refusing access to a race or gender, and it must be put to rest
Captain-Awesome Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 381	Posted - 2013.03.31 15:37:00 - [2] - Quote slypie11 wrote: In case your wondering, I am a thirteen year old gamer who found this game by accident on the ps store. I had heard about EVE online and an fps with EVE's political intrigue and complicated player driven economy sounded awesome.I decided to try it out, and at first was overhwelmed by all the options and choices. Eventually, I got the hang of it and became a formidable player who valued teamwork with people sometimes twice his age. Even so, I am frequently angered to see comments persecuting younger gamers and corps refusing to except people my age. To me, this is as bad as refusing access to a race or gender, and it must be put to rest agreed actually I need to get my 12 year old sister into this. You're at the perfect age to pick this up and wish I was your age.Halo 1 came out when I was 18 :( before that it was quake and doom :p I'm 30 btw.
slypie11 Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 77	Posted - 2013.03.31 15:42:00 - [3] - Quote I've actually played doom 2 and marathon. Both of them scared my ass of.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 947	Posted - 2013.03.31 16:20:00 - [4] - Quote Your 13? wow you seemed closer to my age (which is 17 btw), guess it goes to show that maturity is what counts.
slypie11 Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 79	Posted - 2013.03.31 16:28:00 - [5] - Quote Yet everyone seems to think that all middle schooler play CoD and cry when they lose. I always work as a team, play tactically and support my teammates, but since I'm thirteen, I am suddenly inferior
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1151	Posted - 2013.03.31 16:31:00 - [6] - Quote I know what you mean. I've been in MMOs since I was 12. However, I've managed to act in a way when nobody seems to question my age. Also helps that I haven't gotten a mic until recently. Even got into some guilds in the past that say they only accept people over 20 because they don't want immature players.
slypie11 Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 79	Posted - 2013.03.31 16:36:00 - [7] - Quote Same as me. I act and speak maturely, and nobody notices. It helps that my mic isn't so good. I've been in an 18 or older corp for a month and only one person has noticed.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 948	Posted - 2013.03.31 16:39:00 - [8] - Quote slypie11 wrote: Yet everyone seems to think that all middle schooler play CoD and cry when they lose. I always work as a team, play tactically and support my teammates, but since I'm thirteen, I am suddenly inferior there is sadly plenty of evidence to back that assumption up, the last time i played cod (round a friends house btw, i refuse to buy that piece of crap) my ears were ringing from all the high pitched screaming out of the TV.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 948	Posted - 2013.03.31 16:40:00 - [9] - Quote slypie11 wrote: Same as me. I act and speak maturely, and nobody notices. It helps that my mic isn't so good. I've been in an 18 or older corp for a month and only one person has noticed. well they might notice now never understood PRO's policy, it screws over good players like grodd and you. the only relevant rule to age in L.O.T.I.S. is "don't be an *******"
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1151	Posted - 2013.03.31 16:44:00 - [10] - Quote gbghg wrote: slypie11 wrote: Yet everyone seems to think that all middle schooler play CoD and cry when they lose. I always work as a team, play tactically and support my teammates, but since I'm thirteen, I am suddenly inferior there is sadly plenty of evidence to back that assumption up, the last time i played cod (round a friends house btw, i refuse to buy that piece of crap) my ears were ringing from all the high pitched screaming out of the TV. That high pitched screaming CAN be entertaining if it's because you're running around shooting the ground with an RPG every time you see someone.

slypie11 Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 80	Posted - 2013.03.31 16:56:00 - [11] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: gbghg wrote: slypie11 wrote: Yet everyone seems to think that all middle schooler play CoD and cry when they lose. I always work as a team, play tactically and support my teammates, but since I'm thirteen, I am suddenly inferior there is sadly plenty of evidence to back that assumption up, the last time i played cod (round a friends house btw, i refuse to buy that piece of crap) my ears were ringing from all the high pitched screaming out of the TV. That high pitched screaming CAN be entertaining if it's because you're running around shooting the ground with an RPG every time you see someone. It's true. The screams of small immature children is music to my ears
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 948	Posted - 2013.03.31 17:02:00 - [12] - Quote true but I prefer my eardrums intact.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 948	Posted - 2013.03.31 17:02:00 - [13] - Quote true but I prefer my eardrums intact.
Jump Up Algintal Core Gallente Federation 9	Posted - 2013.03.31 17:07:00 - [14] - Quote gbghg wrote: slypie11 wrote: Yet everyone seems to think that all middle schooler play CoD and cry when they lose. I always work as a team, play tactically and support my teammates, but since I'm thirteen, I am suddenly inferior there is sadly plenty of evidence to back that assumption up, the last time i played cod (round a friends house btw, i refuse to buy that piece of crap) my ears were ringing from all the high pitched screaming out of the TV.
General Tiberius1 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 410	Posted - 2013.03.31 17:08:00 - [15] - Quote Captain-Awesome wrote: slypie11 wrote: In case your wondering, I am a thirteen year old gamer who found this game by accident on the ps store. I had heard about EVE online and an fps with EVE's political intrigue and complicated player driven economy sounded awesome.I decided to try it out, and at first was overhwelmed by all the options and choices. Eventually, I got the hang of it and became a formidable player who valued teamwork with people sometimes twice his age. Even so, I am frequently angered to see comments persecuting younger gamers and corps refusing to except people my age. To me, this is as bad as refusing access to a race or gender, and it must be put to rest agreed actually I need to get my 12 year old sister into this. You're at the perfect age to pick this up and wish I was your age.Halo 1 came out when I was 18 :( before that it was quake and doom :p I'm 30 btw. thing i love about online anonymity, age, race, creed, it matters not. all that matters is your capability at the game, and (personally more importantly) your personality
General Tiberius1 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 410	Posted - 2013.03.31 17:11:00 - [16] - Quote gbghg wrote: slypie11 wrote: Yet everyone seems to think that all middle schooler play CoD and cry when they lose. I always work as a team, play tactically and support my teammates, but since I'm thirteen, I am suddenly inferior there is sadly plenty of evidence to back that assumption up, the last time i played cod (round a friends house btw, i refuse to buy that piece of crap) my ears were ringing from all the high pitched screaming out of the TV. why i never have a mike on when i play it. i enjoy a good free-for all occasionally, and world at war is still an amazing game. the people who play the games though? mute button ON
Jedah McClintock Les Dragons Rouges 0	Posted - 2013.03.31 17:14:00 - [17] - Quote The hyperbolic statement comparing disdain for immature children with racism and other such prejudices... really? In general, children are ignorant because they have not lived long enough to know what they do not know. This is especially so if they grew up in a good home and thus don't know how much the world can suck. Patience with required with children, but due to their ignorance can act like they have all the answers, which can be irritating for grown ups. Fortunately, this tends to be corrected with getting older. Racism on the other hand, makes value judgements on individuals on a group identity based on superficial, surface attributes. It's a crude form of collectivism which is used to give one self esteem based on the merits of people who vaguely resemble them while condemning others for not vaguely resembling them. You may be mature for your age, but you're still a kid.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 949	Posted - 2013.03.31 17:19:00 - [18] - Quote Jedah McClintock wrote: The hyperbolic statement comparing disdain for immature children with racism and other such prejudices... really? In general, children are ignorant because they have not lived long enough to know what they do not know. This is especially so if they grew up in a good home and thus don't know how much the world can suck. Patience with required with children, but due to their ignorance can act like they have all the answers, which can be irritating for grown ups. Fortunately, this tends to be corrected with getting older. Racism on the other hand, makes value judgements on individuals on a group identity based on superficial, surface attributes. It's a crude form of collectivism which is used to give one self esteem based on the merits of people who vaguely resemble them while condemning others for not vaguely resembling them. You may be mature for your age, but you're still a kid. All can be considered forms of discrimination, and the only reason you are arguing this is that culturally we are brought up to believe that decisions should be made by the oldest member in a group.
slypie11 Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 80	Posted - 2013.03.31 17:23:00 - [19] - Quote I may be a kid, but I'm a kid that wants to play a deep, meaningful game based on player choice and political interactions. Unfortunately, you and your "kind" would like to see people of my age barred from such an experience, regardless or my skill or personality. I find this very much alike to the wrongdoings imposed upon people of different races or religions, and must be done away with as such. In fact, many in society believe that adult that play video games are immature, and that they are disregarding other responsibilities. Just think about that when replying
General Tiberius1 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 410	Posted - 2013.03.31 17:25:00 - [20] - Quote gbghg wrote: Jedah McClintock wrote: The hyperbolic statement comparing disdain for immature children with racism and other such prejudices... really? In general, children are ignorant because they have not lived long enough to know what they do not know. This is especially so if they grew up in a good home and thus don't know how much the world can suck. Patience with required with children, but due to their ignorance can act like they have all the answers, which can be irritating for grown ups. Fortunately, this tends to be corrected with getting older. Racism on the other hand, makes value judgements on individuals on a group identity based on superficial, surface attributes. It's a crude form of collectivism which is used to give one self esteem based on the merits of people who vaguely resemble them while condemning others for not vaguely resembling them. You may be mature for your age, but you're still a kid. All can be considered forms of discrimination, and the only reason you are arguing this is that culturally we are brought up to believe that decisions should be made by the oldest member in a group. i prefer following the lead of the CRAZIEST member

gbghg L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 949	Posted - 2013.03.31 17:46:00 - [21] - Quote General Tiberius1 wrote: gbghg wrote: Jedah McClintock wrote: The hyperbolic statement comparing disdain for immature children with racism and other such prejudices... really? In general, children are ignorant because they have not lived long enough to know what they do not know. This is especially so if they grew up in a good home and thus don't know how much the world can suck. Patience with required with children, but due to their ignorance can act like they have all the answers, which can be irritating for grown ups. Fortunately, this tends to be corrected with getting older. Racism on the other hand, makes value judgements on individuals on a group identity based on superficial, surface attributes. It's a crude form of collectivism which is used to give one self esteem based on the merits of people who vaguely resemble them while condemning others for not vaguely resembling them. You may be mature for your age, but you're still a kid. All can be considered forms of discrimination, and the only reason you are arguing this is that culturally we are brought up to believe that decisions should be made by the oldest member in a group. i prefer following the lead of the CRAZIEST member Hooch is crazy
General Tiberius1 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 410	Posted - 2013.03.31 17:50:00 - [22] - Quote gbghg wrote: General Tiberius1 wrote: gbghg wrote: Jedah McClintock wrote: The hyperbolic statement comparing disdain for immature children with racism and other such prejudices... really? In general, children are ignorant because they have not lived long enough to know what they do not know. This is especially so if they grew up in a good home and thus don't know how much the world can suck. Patience with required with children, but due to their ignorance can act like they have all the answers, which can be irritating for grown ups. Fortunately, this tends to be corrected with getting older. Racism on the other hand, makes value judgements on individuals on a group identity based on superficial, surface attributes. It's a crude form of collectivism which is used to give one self esteem based on the merits of people who vaguely resemble them while condemning others for not vaguely resembling them. You may be mature for your age, but you're still a kid. All can be considered forms of discrimination, and the only reason you are arguing this is that culturally we are brought up to believe that decisions should be made by the oldest member in a group. i prefer following the lead of the CRAZIEST member Hooch is crazy :/ meh
Coleman Gray RED COLONIAL MARINES Covert Intervention 147	Posted - 2013.03.31 17:54:00 - [23] - Quote I agree (21 here) It's unfair that decent players in your age group are lumped in with the stereotypes. Alright some kids are annoying but frankly the same can be said of ALL ages. Getting older may mak you more mature, but you also become more arrogant since you start seeing yourself as an aged guru or something. I agree some kids maybe ignorant to what they do and don't know about, but older people are ignorant to the possibilty of younger people actually being mature. Also you only have so many years where eing immature is "allowed" or accepted in mainstream society so we shouldn't punish kids for enjoying their moment while they can, forcing them to "grow up" by disallowing them from things will only damage them really since they may become TOO mature and they'll treat people younger than them like older people treated them. Besides, while playing this game fact is we all been bested one time or another by kids lol, as long as they can work with the team effectivley what does their age matter?
Otavio Martins The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 5	Posted - 2013.03.31 21:10:00 - [24] - Quote I'm 15 and competent, I got luck that my corp accepted me.
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1152	Posted - 2013.03.31 23:04:00 - [25] - Quote General Tiberius1 wrote: gbghg wrote: Jedah McClintock wrote: The hyperbolic statement comparing disdain for immature children with racism and other such prejudices... really? In general, children are ignorant because they have not lived long enough to know what they do not know. This is especially so if they grew up in a good home and thus don't know how much the world can suck. Patience with required with children, but due to their ignorance can act like they have all the answers, which can be irritating for grown ups. Fortunately, this tends to be corrected with getting older. Racism on the other hand, makes value judgements on individuals on a group identity based on superficial, surface attributes. It's a crude form of collectivism which is used to give one self esteem based on the merits of people who vaguely resemble them while condemning others for not vaguely resembling them. You may be mature for your age, but you're still a kid. All can be considered forms of discrimination, and the only reason you are arguing this is that culturally we are brought up to believe that decisions should be made by the oldest member in a group. i prefer following the lead of the CRAZIEST member Everyone knows that the net IQ of a group of people is figured by the equation I=DM, with I being net IQ, D being the IQ of the biggest dumbass, and M being the number of members of the group.
Deranged Disaster Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 72	Posted - 2013.04.01 12:11:00 - [26] - Quote I've been into online gaming since I was 10 so I can safely say I know how you feel. Maturity is overrated though, believe me. Stupidity and ignorance is what gets under people's skin, not how mature someone is. I know immature people that you'd love and mature people that you'd hate.
Galrick M'kron Sand Mercenary Corps Inc. 25	Posted - 2013.04.01 12:36:00 - [27] - Quote And I thought I was the only 13-y/o who played this game. Most of the people I squadded up with don't seem to have a lot of age prejudice. The question of my age never comes up when I squad up with randoms (even with a mic), though that might be because my mic's bad.
Severance Pay Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 78	Posted - 2013.04.01 15:14:00 - [28] - Quote slypie11 wrote: In case your wondering, I am a thirteen year old gamer who found this game by accident on the ps store. I had heard about EVE online and an fps with EVE's political intrigue and complicated player driven economy sounded awesome.I decided to try it out, and at first was overhwelmed by all the options and choices. Eventually, I got the hang of it and became a formidable player who valued teamwork with people sometimes twice his age. Even so, I am frequently angered to see comments persecuting younger gamers and corps refusing to except people my age. To me, this is as bad as refusing access to a race or gender, and it must be put to rest The game is rated T for teen. I am also in agreement that this type of game can actually teach kids some core fundamentals of teamwork and comraderie, but there are other things such as acceptance that empathy that are commonly lacked. For example, disagreeing with corps that make it policy to NOT accept players of certain age. It is their corp and they are free to make the rules as they see fit, and this is actually a sound rule. There is a reason why kids don't get gun licenses until a certain age, they can't drink, they can't smoke, they can't vote, and they aren't allowed to live on their own. Lack of some qualities such as acceptance and empathy as well as hormone distribution which causes some emotional inbalances make it difficult to make responsible decisions on their own. Although, there are adults that show a lower level of maturity that some kids, the difference is these adults are purposely doing it, as the kids are trying not to. An example is the thread, although mature in its content its purpose is juvenile because it lacks acceptance and empathy. This statement is not offensive nor is it meant to be, but if it is construed as offensive this is also juvenile because of the lack of acceptance and empathy. An example of true maturity would sound like, "adults are right, kids can't handle responsibility, and struggling to attain maturity is futile." My father once said "You must be young and stupid, before you can be old and wise." Nobody is beyond the grasp of "young and stupid"
Ner'Zul Nexhawk Talos Incorporated 184	Posted - 2013.04.01 15:35:00 - [29] - Quote I am 15 years old, and I had the fear of exactly what OP has described when I bought a mic for Dust. That's why I am extremely happy to be playing with SI guys, for I don't think anyone has ever voiced his or her displeasure with my age there.
Severance Pay Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 78	Posted - 2013.04.01 15:43:00 - [30] - Quote Ner'Zul Nexhawk wrote: I am 15 years old, and I had the fear of exactly what OP has described when I bought a mic for Dust. That's why I am extremely happy to be playing with SI guys, for I don't think anyone has ever voiced his or her displeasure with my age there. Have you ever thought that it is nothing against young people, maybe some adults want to create an evironment wheremthey aremfree to discuss things of unsuitable for young people?



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