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slypie11
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Posted - 2013.03.31 15:05:00 -
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In case your wondering, I am a thirteen year old gamer who found this game by accident on the ps store. I had heard about EVE online and an fps with EVE's political intrigue and complicated player driven economy sounded awesome.I decided to try it out, and at first was overhwelmed by all the options and choices. Eventually, I got the hang of it and became a formidable player who valued teamwork with people sometimes twice his age. Even so, I am frequently angered to see comments persecuting younger gamers and corps refusing to except people my age. To me, this is as bad as refusing access to a race or gender, and it must be put to rest |
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Posted - 2013.03.31 15:42:00 -
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I've actually played doom 2 and marathon. Both of them scared my ass of. |
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Posted - 2013.03.31 16:28:00 -
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Yet everyone seems to think that all middle schooler play CoD and cry when they lose. I always work as a team, play tactically and support my teammates, but since I'm thirteen, I am suddenly inferior |
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Posted - 2013.03.31 16:36:00 -
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Same as me. I act and speak maturely, and nobody notices. It helps that my mic isn't so good. I've been in an 18 or older corp for a month and only one person has noticed. |
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Posted - 2013.03.31 16:56:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:gbghg wrote:slypie11 wrote:Yet everyone seems to think that all middle schooler play CoD and cry when they lose. I always work as a team, play tactically and support my teammates, but since I'm thirteen, I am suddenly inferior there is sadly plenty of evidence to back that assumption up, the last time i played cod (round a friends house btw, i refuse to buy that piece of crap) my ears were ringing from all the high pitched screaming out of the TV. That high pitched screaming CAN be entertaining if it's because you're running around shooting the ground with an RPG every time you see someone.
It's true. The screams of small immature children is music to my ears |
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Posted - 2013.03.31 17:23:00 -
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I may be a kid, but I'm a kid that wants to play a deep, meaningful game based on player choice and political interactions. Unfortunately, you and your "kind" would like to see people of my age barred from such an experience, regardless or my skill or personality. I find this very much alike to the wrongdoings imposed upon people of different races or religions, and must be done away with as such.
In fact, many in society believe that adult that play video games are immature, and that they are disregarding other responsibilities. Just think about that when replying |
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Posted - 2013.04.01 21:38:00 -
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Severance Pay wrote:slypie11 wrote:In case your wondering, I am a thirteen year old gamer who found this game by accident on the ps store. I had heard about EVE online and an fps with EVE's political intrigue and complicated player driven economy sounded awesome.I decided to try it out, and at first was overhwelmed by all the options and choices. Eventually, I got the hang of it and became a formidable player who valued teamwork with people sometimes twice his age. Even so, I am frequently angered to see comments persecuting younger gamers and corps refusing to except people my age. To me, this is as bad as refusing access to a race or gender, and it must be put to rest The game is rated T for teen. I am also in agreement that this type of game can actually teach kids some core fundamentals of teamwork and comraderie, but there are other things such as acceptance that empathy that are commonly lacked. For example, disagreeing with corps that make it policy to NOT accept players of certain age. It is their corp and they are free to make the rules as they see fit, and this is actually a sound rule. There is a reason why kids don't get gun licenses until a certain age, they can't drink, they can't smoke, they can't vote, and they aren't allowed to live on their own. Lack of some qualities such as acceptance and empathy as well as hormone distribution which causes some emotional inbalances make it difficult to make responsible decisions on their own. Although, there are adults that show a lower level of maturity that some kids, the difference is these adults are purposely doing it, as the kids are trying not to. An example is the thread, although mature in its content its purpose is juvenile because it lacks acceptance and empathy. This statement is not offensive nor is it meant to be, but if it is construed as offensive this is also juvenile because of the lack of acceptance and empathy. An example of true maturity would sound like, "adults are right, kids can't handle responsibility, and struggling to attain maturity is futile." My father once said "You must be young and stupid, before you can be old and wise." Nobody is beyond the grasp of "young and stupid"
Your ignorance astounds me, it really does. In the course of four paragraphs, you have managed to prove my point and disprove your own. There is a reason why kids don't get gun licenses, drink, smoke, or drive. We don't use guns, because, one, we are usually not strong enough to fire one, and two, because certain individuals may not have fully developed a sense of right and wrong, and so it may be misused. However, there are plenty of adults who have misused firearms, as the recent string of gun violence has shown, and so your point is moot. We cannot drink or smoke because children are more likely to become addicted to these substances, and we cannot drive because the part of our brain that processes possible consequences hasn't been fully developed, but that has nothing to do with our interaction with adults. We cannot vote because adults believe us to lack the decision making skills to do so, which I can assure you is unfounded in most cases, and adults have made worse decisions in their choice of leader. We aren't allowed to live on our own because one, we don't have jobs, and two, we currently lack the skills to get a job that would allow us to live on our own.
I like to think I am full of acceptance and empathy, the two traits you mention frequently in your argument and the two you sorely lack. If adults were so overflowing with these, then they would accept children who are willing to work with them as equals, and they would feel empathy toward a child who was not treated as such.
In conclusion, I did not construe your previous post as offensive, I merely took it as someone's misconception that had to be righted. I hope that this has helped in changing your view. |
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Posted - 2013.04.01 23:31:00 -
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Severance Pay wrote:slypie11 wrote:Severance Pay wrote:slypie11 wrote:In case your wondering, I am a thirteen year old gamer who found this game by accident on the ps store. I had heard about EVE online and an fps with EVE's political intrigue and complicated player driven economy sounded awesome.I decided to try it out, and at first was overhwelmed by all the options and choices. Eventually, I got the hang of it and became a formidable player who valued teamwork with people sometimes twice his age. Even so, I am frequently angered to see comments persecuting younger gamers and corps refusing to except people my age. To me, this is as bad as refusing access to a race or gender, and it must be put to rest The game is rated T for teen. I am also in agreement that this type of game can actually teach kids some core fundamentals of teamwork and comraderie, but there are other things such as acceptance that empathy that are commonly lacked. For example, disagreeing with corps that make it policy to NOT accept players of certain age. It is their corp and they are free to make the rules as they see fit, and this is actually a sound rule. There is a reason why kids don't get gun licenses until a certain age, they can't drink, they can't smoke, they can't vote, and they aren't allowed to live on their own. Lack of some qualities such as acceptance and empathy as well as hormone distribution which causes some emotional inbalances make it difficult to make responsible decisions on their own. Although, there are adults that show a lower level of maturity that some kids, the difference is these adults are purposely doing it, as the kids are trying not to. An example is the thread, although mature in its content its purpose is juvenile because it lacks acceptance and empathy. This statement is not offensive nor is it meant to be, but if it is construed as offensive this is also juvenile because of the lack of acceptance and empathy. An example of true maturity would sound like, "adults are right, kids can't handle responsibility, and struggling to attain maturity is futile." My father once said "You must be young and stupid, before you can be old and wise." Nobody is beyond the grasp of "young and stupid" Your ignorance astounds me, it really does. In the course of four paragraphs, you have managed to prove my point and disprove your own. There is a reason why kids don't get gun licenses, drink, smoke, or drive. We don't use guns, because, one, we are usually not strong enough to fire one, and two, because certain individuals may not have fully developed a sense of right and wrong, and so it may be misused. However, there are plenty of adults who have misused firearms, as the recent string of gun violence has shown, and so your point is moot. We cannot drink or smoke because children are more likely to become addicted to these substances, and we cannot drive because the part of our brain that processes possible consequences hasn't been fully developed, but that has nothing to do with our interaction with adults. We cannot vote because adults believe us to lack the decision making skills to do so, which I can assure you is unfounded in most cases, and adults have made worse decisions in their choice of leader. We aren't allowed to live on our own because one, we don't have jobs, and two, we currently lack the skills to get a job that would allow us to live on our own. I like to think I am full of acceptance and empathy, the two traits you mention frequently in your argument and the two you sorely lack. If adults were so overflowing with these, then they would accept children who are willing to work with them as equals, and they would feel empathy toward a child who was not treated as such. In conclusion, I did not construe your previous post as offensive, I merely took it as someone's misconception that had to be righted. I hope that this has helped in changing your view. I think I would be willing to accept what you say but I would be discounting 100 years of freudism. It is a proven and widely accepted fact. If you can write an paper that disproves it entirely and is accepted over Sigmund Freud's theories, then I will gladly yield.
I'm sorry, but I don't see how Sigmund Frued fits into this. It was of my knowledge that he developed the theories of psychoanalysis, phychotherepy, and theories about the ID, ego and super-ego. Let me quote a website about Frued.
"Freud's dynamic psychology, which implies that reality lies off stage or out of consciousness, simultaneously offers a mode of interpretation, a research method for psychology, a form of psychotherapy, and a theory of society and social existence. Pointing to the evidence of wit, dreams, and so-called Freudian slips, he demonstrated that one could reveal coherence and significant meaning in aspects of human language and behaviour previously considered meaningless. Using such analytic tools, Freud and his followers in many disciplines have decoded human culture.
Freud also claims to show how humankind can ultimately socialize itself by recognizing the determining factors of its illusions and neuroses, by rationally investigating what motivates people to carry out certain acts GÇö to steal things, inflict pain upon themselves and others, paint this particular picture, or write that particular poem. In short, Freud's ultimate goal was to permit freedom through knowledge GÇö at the same time that he revealed how limited knowledge is and how consciousness always appears contaminated by factors that lie outside it. I can't see how this fits into our argument. |
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Posted - 2013.04.01 23:51:00 -
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By today's rigorous scientific standards, Freud's psychosexual theory is not considered to be very accurate. Also, the only thing I could find about children and their relationships with their parents is that they are attracted to the opposite sex parent when they are infants. I am not an infant nor does this have anything to do with our argument, once again. Kids can be employed at 15 in some states, and usually as someone who stocks shelfs at a supermarket, which doesn't pay much. |
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