I'm not going to name names here. But I would like to know the reasoning behind your decision to quit if you've die too much while running a proto fitting.

Money, or ISK in this game REALLY Isn't big of a deal just yet. So what, you lost maybe 350k from dying too much in a single match. But if you leave the match after those deaths, you wont be able to sooth SOME of your wallets pain. If you stayed, and just fought with a cheaper/ free fit. You would probably gain most of it back. Or is are you also too worried you might ruin your stats if you practiced such a thing?

Proto bears that AFk in the MCC , or those who I like categorize as those who feel that they are "too expensive to die" are a different story. Yea, yea I know. the game is boring. But most of the members are still trying to make thr most out of it. And if you actually came down and killed a couple baddies would be nice. You would also get a better payout at the end of the match. Both SP, and ISK. wise. If you AFK farm, like so many of you do every now and then, you are really just slowing your self down.

So there you have it. Those are my 0.02 ISkies about quitters, and AFKers.



Atlease there are still some credible players out there. I wonder if these AFkers, and quitters will do the same thing in PC.

Proto players who quit when they're dying lots aren't doing so because they're losing ISK (if that was their concern, and they're even remotely competent, they'd be switching into lower-grade fittings (or Starter gear) to make some of that ISK back.

They're protecting their STATS. They aren't good players. They're stat-padders. Dropping from the game still loses them all the ISK they lost, but it DOESN'T hit their win/loss or kill/death ratios.

what's with the importance on K/DR anyway.

only thing that matters in this game are war points

OP I see what you did there

what's with the importance on K/DR anyway.

only thing that matters in this game are war points

I can say me and my squads have never left a losing battle. In fact - it's challenging to see how far you can bring back a terrible team and most my corpmates express similar views. I want names!!!!

what's with the importance on K/DR anyway.

only thing that matters in this game are war points

Havent seen anyone in our corp leave a mathc after dying. I have seen a few get dropped from sh!t psn network though and have to restart.

That's not what the OP was talking about though...the OP was saying that he's seeing people leave after dying more than a few (I'm guessing 1 or 2) times, not because their team sucks.

what's with the importance on K/DR anyway.

only thing that matters in this game are war points

[quote=General Tiberius1][quote=Garrett Blacknova]

But WP alone tells you nothing, just like K/D without context tells you nothing. Did a person with 9000 WP get them from 3 matches? Or did he play half a dozen? Or 30?

Even then, having 1500 WP in an Ambush with a K/D of 0/40 doesn't mean someone is good. It just means they farmed WP effectively for the few seconds they were alive every time they spawned. Which probably means they deliberately set up Uplink positions for people, then dropped ammo and repair Nanohives on them.

You're talking about "elite" players...KDR is all they have...

And War Points don't mean much either...none of the stats do, at least not until the next build (then win/loss and how much territory you hold is what matters)

If im running proto only reason why I quite is because I got the infinite fit screen glitch and cant select my fits and go back into battle. Its been happening to me at least 5-6 times a day.

If im running proto only reason why I quite is because I got the infinite fit screen glitch and cant select my fits and go back into battle. Its been happening to me at least 5-6 times a day.

I may have a solution for you. Ethernet cable instead of wireless. I used to get those load screens too and I even once feared doing anything to my fittings since it would infinite load - but switch my connection to wired - poof, went away.

A high K/D ratio will not get you a girlfriend nor laid.

Suppose someone does get a date, the moment you mention a 12.0 K/D for a game thats in open beta(or any game), you might as well go home.

Sexist.

My girlfriend's K/D is better than mine. Then again, I run Logi fits quite often, and the way I play tanks my K/D when I'm doing that.

Realist.
Those currently in a relationship do not apply.

If I die in a match, loss of ISK isn't my main concern since I can easily afford it. However loss of ISK and messing up my KDR is something that annoys the crap out of me.

Yes I know, KDR is meaningless blah blah blah. Well I care about it, and if I get a garbage KDR in a match I cease having fun (unless I am tank hunting and successfully cost some tanker hundreds of thousands, or millions, of ISK). Then I can accept my potentially crap KDR that match because it was well worth it.

Would be nice if I could stop caring about my KDR, but I am absolutely fixated on it, even dropping 0.02 ruins my entire night (unless I get a good match that brings it back up).


I've long awaited a online FPS game that does not show deaths anywhere in the game. Because while many of us won't admit it, KDR is important to a lot of FPS players. And because of such, I haven't experimented with as much as I would like to in Dust because of the potential hit to my KDR.

I probably would have had a lot more fun being a logi, since as a logi KDR is something they never have to worry about. Heck, a good logi can go 0-4 and still make 2x's the WP than a player going 25-0 on the other team. When I see a player like that I don't think "Wow, he got a crap KDR that match". I think, "wow, he didn't get a single kill yet out WP'ed my entire team and ranked first on his!"

I sometimes quit out of pure rage. I belie e that a bad match can't ruin your k/d assuming that a player in a pro suit has a few thousand kills.

I'm pretty sure they're just leaving because they're butthurt that somebody had enough skill to take them out in their all-powerful PRO suits.

Realist.
Those currently in a relationship do not apply.

People that live in glass houses probably shouldn't throw around ironic insults, Cyn.

If I die in a match, loss of ISK isn't my main concern since I can easily afford it. However loss of ISK and messing up my KDR is something that annoys the crap out of me.

Yes I know, KDR is meaningless blah blah blah. Well I care about it, and if I get a garbage KDR in a match I cease having fun (unless I am tank hunting and successfully cost some tanker hundreds of thousands, or millions, of ISK). Then I can accept my potentially crap KDR that match because it was well worth it.

Would be nice if I could stop caring about my KDR, but I am absolutely fixated on it, even dropping 0.02 ruins my entire night (unless I get a good match that brings it back up).


I've long awaited a online FPS game that does not show deaths anywhere in the game. Because while many of us won't admit it, KDR is important to a lot of FPS players. And because of such, I haven't experimented with as much as I would like to in Dust because of the potential hit to my KDR.

I probably would have had a lot more fun being a logi, since as a logi KDR is something they never have to worry about. Heck, a good logi can go 0-4 and still make 2x's the WP than a player going 25-0 on the other team. When I see a player like that I don't think "Wow, he got a crap KDR that match". I think, "wow, he didn't get a single kill yet out WP'ed my entire team and ranked first on his!"

+1 for honesty, never seen anyone yet admit to caring about KDR and not having fun when it's low - a fact I'm sure is true for way more people then admit to it. bravo

The thing is, your first comment was about people backing out when they see someone they are intimidated by, while your second comment was about people leaving because of rage, but the topic of this thread was people leaving to keep their K/DR high and dry.

A Freudian Slip, so to speak.

Oh no, is this an implication that I rage quit and back out of matches? Never backed out of any game mode, why would I?

idc about my stats or isk. Sooo... care to imply something else?

can back cyn up on this, i've seen him hit 6+ deaths in ambush games and he sticks it out

he's one of the people who actually hang around reagardless

god nova, on the other hand.........

1) In redline games, the bulk of the kills, especially the interesting kills come at the beginning of the match. Sure you can get a fair number of kills after the redlining, but they tend to be grindy and boring. We've all let the enemy take a point out of sheer boredom, or maybe in the hopes of cloning them faster.

2) I've heard people say that skirmish isn't reporting player stat correctly, but i'm clueless as to what the issue is - could it be related to this?

3) The best payout I've got in a skirmish is 500K, and the average is about 250K, and i'm not a proto player. Many proto players have big bank rolls. If a match looks like another 15 minutes of redline grinding, is it worth a few hundred thousand ISK to stay in? Why not just leave and queue up another skirmish? My memory is that we get paid for partial matches. Is that still true?

4) Do we get salvage if we leave the match before it ends?

I may have a solution for you. Ethernet cable instead of wireless. I used to get those load screens too and I even once feared doing anything to my fittings since it would infinite load - but switch my connection to wired - poof, went away.

I honestly don't know what point you're trying to make.

Do you think preemptive preservation of one's stats and/or pride via leaving before a match has begun is somehow different than preserving further degradation via leaving in the middle of a bad match?