Controllers are not on equal footing to KBM. I just finished a game where a player in a railgun take just swept the field because he was able to make precision hits across the map on infantry, 30 kills with zero deaths with a *railgun*. Even when I stormed him with my squad at 100m, strafing, and jumping he still took us out without missing a shot. How is this fair?!

Controllers are not on equal footing to KBM. I just finished a game where a player in a railgun take just swept the field because he was able to make precision hits across the map on infantry, 30 kills with zero deaths with a *railgun*. Even when I stormed him with my squad at 100m, strafing, and jumping he still took us out without missing a shot. How is this fair?!

They should take kb/m out of the game at least that way everyone is on an even footing.The fact of the matter is kb/m is superior in FPS for numerous reasons.

To all those people who's response is 'buy a kb/m', it's simply not practical for a large number of people. Most people will have their console set up next to a TV in a comfortable living room/bedroom environment, not at a desk.

At the end of the day this is CONSOLE game not a PC game. Having kb/m support just splits the community.

The primary advantage of mouse "precision" isn't actually the precision itself, it's the turning speed you can get without LOSING precision. Using the sixaxis controller, you have to give up some precision to get extra speed. Barring the way some mice can circumvent the normal hard cap on turn speed, you can't take advantage of what should make that a superior option, so while there's a (very slight) precision advantage to using a mouse for aiming, the sixaxis movement gives players much better control than a keyboard.

M/K is much more precise in those fine tune moments.
Controllers are sluggish in that regard.

With proper speed scaling on the sixaxis, you're not falling significantly short of the precision you get from a mouse. It isn't quite on par, but that's why I said "primary" instead of "only" in the post you quoted. There's MUCh less of a concern about acuracy when the sixaxis is being taken advantage of properly, and even when it isn't, it doesn't make as big a difference as being able to insta-spin with the mouse.

The reason PC players had an unfair advantage in Shadowrun and the other couple of games with PC/console cross-platform play was because when a console player had someone attack from behind, they'd basically already lost the fight, whereas the PC players could spin and open fire almost immediately. If you negate that advantage like DUST does, there's not enough of a gap to complain about.

As I said, mouse and keyboard has better aim precision, sixaxis has better movement precision.

Get rid of KBM native support, and I will just use a XIM, which does the same damn thing.

There is no way in hell I'm playing this game without my KB/M. I can't take any shooter seriously without it.

Allowing a group of players to have a superior control mechanism over the majority of players is a decision from CCP that I simply cannot understand.

Its not like these people are being allowed something that you cannot have. How hard is it to simply find somewhere to set the kb/m.

Its not like these people are being allowed something that you cannot have. How hard is it to simply find somewhere to set the kb/m.

If you want same or almost same results as a Kb/M user you are basically forced to go Kb/M or quit Dust514.

We need filters for this.

For matches with Kb/M , controller and AUR items.

Or just remove kb/m support entirely.

If you enjoy the game you can continue to play with a controller and everyone will be on a level playing field.

no not remove it , i play Kb/M from time to time , when i play Logi or Swarm and precision aiming is not required i use controller

Your missing my point, I for example have my ps3 set up next to my TV in my bedroom, In order for me to use a kb/m I would have to move my tv and ps3 onto a desk to play Dust and then move them back again if I want to watch TV. I'm sorry but it's unrealistic to expect players to do this.

I have a good gaming mouse I play on my laptop with so its not a case of me not being able to use a kb/m proficiently. It's more of a case that you cant expect players to be setup for kb/m on a console.

I understand why some players want kb/m as it is better for FPS, however allowing some players to gain an out of game advantage is unacceptable, especially when planetary conquest arrives and results really start to matter.

Finally the fact that the aiming and movement on the DS3 is currently clunky and imprecise in Dust 514 further compounds the issue and widens the gap between kb/m and controller.

It is inconvenient for me to improve my performance in this game, so I am going to whine about it.

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Here's what I did when faced with the incredible dilemma of cords: I solved it.

First with a folding table and chair close to the TV. But eventually I just moved the ps3 into my office and plugged it into my monitor at my desk.

BUT KA24DERT, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN IT'S BLU-RAY TIME!?

Well Timmy, I just move the ps3 back to the living room, and reconnect all 2 cables.

Just get over it dude. If you don't want to be competitive, then you won't be competitive, simple. Whiners and defeatists have no end to their excuses.

I stand by my previous example of people bringing knives to a gun fight, then the knife fighters whining that the gun fighters aren't playing by their rules even though the gun is more efficient at fighting.

If you want to be able to fight a KB/M user, you need to get a KB/M. If you find that too 'complicated', that is on you.

You have the option, you refuse to use it.

Have you even read any of my posts

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Here's what I did when faced with the incredible dilemma of cords: I solved it.

First with a folding table and chair close to the TV. But eventually I just moved the ps3 into my office and plugged it into my monitor at my desk.

BUT KA24DERT, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN IT'S BLU-RAY TIME!?

Well Timmy, I just move the ps3 back to the living room, and reconnect all 2 cables.

Just get over it dude. If you don't want to be competitive, then you won't be competitive, simple. Whiners and defeatists have no end to their excuses.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IR4s4QswGS4

I agree, it's all about prioritizing. That's why to be competitive I urge all fellow dust players to quit their jobs, give up on sex, and get a **** bucket. All whiners need to HTFU.

Or just remove kb/m support entirely.

If you enjoy the game you can continue to play with a controller and everyone will be on a level playing field.

Keyboards and mice are more common and cheaper then both mics and surround sound headphones.

Not for people who own PS3s and are intent on gaming, they aren't.

[ That's weird, keyboards and mice combos were like 20 bucks before I got a PS3, however after I got a PS3, keyboard and mice combos were still around 20 bucks. How come the price didn't go up for me? Was my gaming intent not good enough?

Posting in another "Im not good so ccp should make everyone else play at a handicap for me" thread.

This isn't an "Im not good so ccp should make everyone else play at a handicap for me" thread. If i'm not mistaken, a PS3 was originally made to be played with a PS3 controller, therefore, this is an "everyone else is using a control scheme that gives them an unfair advantage, please limit the advantage or remove the option to use this control scheme" thread

This isn't an "Im not good so ccp should make everyone else play at a handicap for me" thread. If i'm not mistaken, a PS3 was originally made to be played with a PS3 controller, therefore, this is an "everyone else is using a control scheme that gives them an unfair advantage, please limit the advantage or remove the option to use this control scheme" thread

I read this, and all I hear is someone who sees a perceived advantage, but does not want to partake.

The PS3 comes with a PS3 controller, it also has USB ports. Does your PS3 have USB ports? Awesome! Why don't you just plug in a mouse and keyboard then, so you can use the Win button too?

The answer is because you don't want to put in the effort to be better, so instead you want to bring other people down.

On top of all that. I've squadded with plenty of killing machines that use the PS3 controller, so maybe the mouse isn't such a great advantage?

And if so, it just leaves people like you as pointless whiners.

It's ok to not be great at a game, but you should stop looking at external factors. We are all bound by the same rules.

That's weird, keyboards and mice combos were like 20 bucks before I got a PS3, however after I got a PS3, keyboard and mice combos were still around 20 bucks. How come the price didn't go up for me? Was my gaming intent not good enough?

Actually, this is all one giant troll thread. To everyone posting in this thread, let me lay it out to you.

CCP will not remove K/M, its not going to happen.
CCP will not nerf K/M, its not going to happen.

I'll give 100 Million ISK to Charity if I'm wrong.

The End.