Defender has 300 clones and a production facility (PF generates 100 clones a day).
Attacker attacks.
Attacker wins.
Attacker has 100 clones at the end of the battle.
Defender does not get 100 clones on their next reinforcement cycle.
Attacker gets 50% of the clones that would have been generated.
Attacker returns home with a total of 150 clones.

Does the defender lose all 300 clones in battle automatically? What if he loses a certain number, but there are some remaining?

Does the defender lose all 300 clones in battle automatically? What if he loses a certain number, but there are some remaining?

The losing side of a battle will lose a minimum of 100 clones. If they lose 125 during the fight that is what they lose. If they lose 75 during the fight then they will lose a total of 100 at the end.

So this makes clone reserve depletion much easier as an attacker, because you walk off with 50% of their regeneration for (one?) resupply of clones right? Thus taking a district will be time compressed, if you were to win every offensive battle as opposed to the outline prior to your post on the new "clone stealing".

does it take into account both sides loses and remaining clones? because i can't see that in your examples.

Do you keep losing clones ie the movement penalty each time you attack?

Winning clones from the defender should then be "positioned" at the point of attack and not subject to movement penalty.

Not sure I understand your question. Only the winner "steals" clones, so we don't care about how many clones the winning side lost for the examples.

Not sure I understand your question. Only the winner "steals" clones, so we don't care about how many clones the winning side lost for the examples.

Just to clarify, is the attacker only "stealing" from the clones in production?

So using that example with the PF and 300 clones, if the defender lost 270 clones, meaning there are only 30 left, the attacker DOESN'T take 50% of the survivors (15 clones), but 50% of the current cycle's production (50 clones). And obviously, the remaining clones to be produced are destroyed.

Is that correct?

Just to clarify, is the attacker only "stealing" from the clones in production?

So using that example with the PF and 300 clones, if the defender lost 270 clones, meaning there are only 30 left, the attacker DOESN'T take 50% of the survivors (15 clones), but 50% of the current cycle's production (50 clones). And obviously, the remaining clones to be produced are destroyed.

Is that correct?

Not sure I understand your question. Only the winner "steals" clones, so we don't care about how many clones the winning side lost for the examples.

Not really. Before this the defender, assuming they lost, would just have not generated the 100 clones. In this new design they still won't generate them and the attacker takes some of the clones that WOULD have been generated. Does that make sense?

I think so. Extra 50% of clones given to the victorious attacker of the next generation cycle (as well as those remaining above minimal clone loss requirement), but none go towards defensive reserves. But wouldn't that make clone reserve depletion even easier as the offensive victor? Hope I don't require you to buy a bottle of Ibuprofen.

Because I won, and because you had a production facility, I take 50 extra clones back with me. Half of what would have been generated.
I don't touch your clone reserves.

Because I won, and because you had a production facility, I take 50 extra clones back with me. Half of what would have been generated.

So I am going to try and use this section of the forums some more and start some more focused discussions with you guys, we shall see how it goes.

As some of you know I am working on a dev blog with some updates to Planetary Conquest. That is still a little ways out though as I want some more time to think about the numbers. In the mean time I am going to post this here which will also be in said dev blog. Want to start getting your ideas on it now.

From the previous design of Planetary Conquest as a defender if you won you would get 20% of the remaining clones that the attacker sent. We are changing the way this works and also expanding it to the attacker if they win. :D More reason to go out and attack. :D (more smiley faces? :P)

Previously the idea was that if the attacker sent 200 clones, lost 100 in the fighting, and as a defender you won you would get 20% of the remaining clones. In this example that would be 20 clones.

We are increasing that percentage to 50% but also making it so that this is 50% of the clones above and beyond the minimum 150 clones lost. Not immediately understandable, so let me give some examples:

In this example the attacker sends 200 clones, uses 100 clones in combat, and loses to the defender.

The attacker sends 200 clones.
The attacker loses 100 in combat.
50 more clones are destroyed to reach the 150 clone loss minimum.
50 clones remain.
25 clones are given to the defender.

Lets try another. In this example the attacker sends 150 clones, uses 100 clones in combat, and loses to the defender.

The attacker sends 150 clones.
The attacker loses 100 in combat.
50 more clones are destroyed to reach the 150 clone loss minimum.
0 clones remain.
0 clones are given to the defender.

Simple right? Or at least makes some sense? O_O With a solid understanding of how this works when the defender wins, lets take a look at what happens when the attacker wins:

Defender has 300 clones and a production facility (PF generates 100 clones a day).
Attacker attacks.
Attacker wins.
Attacker has 100 clones at the end of the battle.
Defender does not get 100 clones on their next reinforcement cycle.
Attacker gets 50% of the clones that would have been generated.
Attacker returns home with a total of 150 clones.

So, feedback, discuss, TELL ME THINGS! :D Keep in mind it is a long weekend here so I may not be around a whole lot until Tuesday.

Would it make sense to have separate battle-types whether the attacker wants to conquer the territory or steal clones?