How about this for an idea ?

Ditch the whole minimum 150 clone loss and instead have something similar to the following:

Attacker wins by MCC
Attacker gets upto 50 clones (lore, the MCC takes the CRUs and their stock with them) from the defenders location stock.
This may cause an change ownership in the process but regardless, it adds to the attackers stockpile.
The attacker also gets their window of opportunity to secure the next assault.

Attacker wins by Clones
The attacker just wins the territory.

Defender wins by MCC
Defender gets upto 50 clones representing stores deployed in the CRU now that the MCC is destroyed.

Defender wins by Clones
The defender gets to keep the territory.

Effect:
Corps have an incentive to win by MCC because it reinforces their own stockpile, however if they are losing they have an incentive to keep fighting to the last man as otherwise their enemy will be reinforced and they will be weaker. Sending more clones is also preferable because as attacker you do not want to be winning and suddenly run out of clones, an advantage inherent to the defenders position with their complete stockpile on line.

Without the minimum clone loss we run into situations where people can lock their own districts for really cheap while still generating clones. Every attack must result in a net loss of clones when all the math is done.

I like the fact that CCP wants ppl to attack that is all well an good but one of my main concerns for PC is what happens when u say u reach the "limit" of ur ability to HOLD districts?

It would be nice if there was some sort of raiding mechanic that way u still attack and get paid for it but u wont be tied down with having to own another district u might not honestly want

Not everyone is interested or can hold vast amounts of space, some just want a small piece they can manage and just go raiding or doin merc work

Yep I agree that some form of raiding would be good to have.

Short term though there is a possibility to do some sort of low-end raiding. If you attack someone and win you're guaranteed 15 million in biomass and at least another 15 million in loot if the other team loses 150 clones and are in full proto gear. That's almost 2 million to each person. Unless you use up all of your own clones (9-10 clones each person) it could be a nice little profit for you. Do note that unless we get some kind of trading most of the loot could be useless to you.

Long term though it would be nice with some actual raiding mechanics, yes.

I also asked this in another thread, but I recieved no answer, so I'll try here instead. Do we get regular ISK payouts in PC matches as well? Because if everyone is in full proto gear you can easily get 1 million+ ISK for a match, which would give an even bigger profit than what I outlined above.

I like the fact that CCP wants ppl to attack that is all well an good but one of my main concerns for PC is what happens when u say u reach the "limit" of ur ability to HOLD districts?

It would be nice if there was some sort of raiding mechanic that way u still attack and get paid for it but u wont be tied down with having to own another district u might not honestly want

Not everyone is interested or can hold vast amounts of space, some just want a small piece they can manage and just go raiding or doin merc work

I also asked this in another thread, but I recieved no answer, so I'll try here instead. Do we get regular ISK payouts in PC matches as well? Because if everyone is in full proto gear you can easily get 1 million+ ISK for a match, which would give an even bigger profit than what I outlined above.

Trading NEEDS to be in Uprising.
Corp Armory would be nice as well
if not then all this loot would be pointless
ISK transfers between players or open market needed as well tbh that way ur idea we can actually sell off the loot

Unfortunately item trading will not be in Uprising. :(

The regular ISK payout will be based on the number of clones killed.

What what what ? April 1st was 2 days ago...

Didn't you confirm this in Merc-Cast or Vid+¬o-Cast yesterday ?

Cool, so I assume you could actually make a decent profit by attacking and winning since you would be getting regular ISK payouts that can easily exceed 1 million ISK per player if the other team is in full proto + at least 15 million in biomass + at least 15 million in loot if the other team is in full proto and loses 150+ clones. That is 3 million+ ISK to each player.

Though, the loot would probably be useless for the most part until trading is implemented, but it would still be at least 2 million ISK to each player minus whatever they lost in the match, but that shouldn't be more than 1-1,5 million ISK at most. Vehicle pilots would lose more, but they can get ISK from the corp to reimburse their losses.

I went and double checked with everyone on the team, and no we did not say that.

We did talk about the possibility of it, and how item trading plus buying aurum items and selling them for ISK would be like PLEX in EVE and let you turn AURUM into ISK.

We did not say we were working on it let alone that it would be in Uprising.

This is what we are thinking yes. :)

That and PC requesting more and more corp management and us getting only corp mail. Yay !

What do you mean by "us only getting corp mail" ???

What do you mean by "us only getting corp mail" ???

If that is the point, why would anyone bother with holding district in the first place ?
And why give incentive in attacking just for fun even without aiming at holding the district ?

I could understand that if it was through contracting which you discussed yesterday but atm, what's the point ? Fun ? Not sure this will actually be fun for everyone

you mentionned yesterday adding alliance mail and chat.
And then you mentionned adding Mail Corp.

Everybody understood "Mail all Corp" Tool. Like in EVE. You know.... so we can send a message to every corp member without having to type in each member individually, or spam the corp channel, etc....

Corp mail from eve doesn't show in Dust from what i can tell... (inbox says 50, but cant see any of them...)

... might be something else

FW and PC will be in Uprising, as SP refund, or this is also conditional ?

Well, stop trolling us with english grammar please !!!

Yes, as of Uprising you will have:
Corp chat
Alliance chat

Corp mail
Alliance mail

I was just not sure about the "and us getting only corp mail." Only? What is being left out?

I'll have to wait and see all the EVE side bonuses. Because, as of right now, there really is no incentive IMO to even hold districts. Its going to be more profitable to raid in militia gear.

Any kind of role customization or new roles, asset hangar ( player exchange of items could have been used to do that in a way), tax system, corp wallet transaction history.

Alliance chat and mail is cool and nice. But without any way to actually put the alliance into play without using squad to mix alliance players in one game, or exchange districts, or trading clones, it's not that important imo.

Incentivising attacking is high on our list because people will only be able to realistically hold so many districts based on how many members they have. What do they do after that? Just sit there? We want to give them a reason to attack without taking and holding the district.

Why hold districts in the first place? For several reasons: Making money off of them, using them to attack other districts and make money, and also because of the EVE side bonuses.