DUST Search - Forge guns need a buff.

Moon Cricket Bob wrote:

Seriously, these have to be the most underwhelming weapon in the game. Im tired of getting killed by infantry that just spray and pray and kill me. 2.5 second charge time on an assault forge gun is ridiculous, it needs to be about 1 second since on the weapon description it says is the most devasting anti infantry weapon out there. Against LAV's they're fine, usually 1 shot and then you get the free kill. Dropships on the otherhand simply can tank too much damage for a single forge user. Seriously 2 shots to bring one down? Those things are flimsy pieces of crap, 1 shot from a forge should be plenty to take them out. Also before the QQ from dropship pilots you have to understand where I'm coming from. First of all, aiming that thing is intense. Super intense. We even have to lead our shots sometimes when you activate your broken afterburners since your traveling at a rate of speed so high its hard to hit you.
And tanks? Don't get me started on tanks. How come I can't solo higher tier tanks? If you hit the treads on it they should fall off and the tank only be allowed to drive in circles. Its only fair. Also if you aim at the tank turrent the forge gun round should be able to travel down the barrel and blow the tank up from the inside. Hello CCP! Do you not watch hollywood movies? These things happen all the time, even in real life. Please can we have real physics when dealing with tanks. Thank you.

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Moon Cricket Bob Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 27	Posted - 2013.03.27 23:26:00 - [1] - Quote Seriously, these have to be the most underwhelming weapon in the game. Im tired of getting killed by infantry that just spray and pray and kill me. 2.5 second charge time on an assault forge gun is ridiculous, it needs to be about 1 second since on the weapon description it says is the most devasting anti infantry weapon out there. Against LAV's they're fine, usually 1 shot and then you get the free kill. Dropships on the otherhand simply can tank too much damage for a single forge user. Seriously 2 shots to bring one down? Those things are flimsy pieces of crap, 1 shot from a forge should be plenty to take them out. Also before the QQ from dropship pilots you have to understand where I'm coming from. First of all, aiming that thing is intense. Super intense. We even have to lead our shots sometimes when you activate your broken afterburners since your traveling at a rate of speed so high its hard to hit you. And tanks? Don't get me started on tanks. How come I can't solo higher tier tanks? If you hit the treads on it they should fall off and the tank only be allowed to drive in circles. Its only fair. Also if you aim at the tank turrent the forge gun round should be able to travel down the barrel and blow the tank up from the inside. Hello CCP! Do you not watch hollywood movies? These things happen all the time, even in real life. Please can we have real physics when dealing with tanks. Thank you.
Logi Bro ZionTCD Legacy Rising 987	Posted - 2013.03.27 23:27:00 - [2] - Quote And so it begins....
Protoman Is God Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2013.03.27 23:27:00 - [3] - Quote i'm sure somebody in PRO can teach you how to properly use a forge gun.
King Kobrah SyNergy Gaming 111	Posted - 2013.03.27 23:28:00 - [4] - Quote attempt #2 at duplicating my masterfully crafted troll thread
Moon Cricket Bob Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 27	Posted - 2013.03.27 23:34:00 - [5] - Quote King Kobrah wrote: attempt #2 at duplicating my masterfully crafted troll thread Wow seriously bro? I'm trying to give some construtive criticism on broken mechanics and all everyone ever thinks that its a troll. I just want the darn things fixed so I can actually enjoy the game once in a while. Also, I don't think you were trolling at all. You had some fine points there mister. The only way were going to get these things fixed if we actually properly discuss them so we can actually extract some good ideas, like shooting a forge gun down a tank barrel.
Beld Errmon Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 554	Posted - 2013.03.27 23:43:00 - [6] - Quote Idiot.
Nguruthos IX Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 174	Posted - 2013.03.27 23:49:00 - [7] - Quote I agree. 2 shotting decked drop-ships with a militia fg is not fast enough :P And those dern after burners are still too useful and fast now! rage!!!
Skipper Jones ZionTCD Legacy Rising 20	Posted - 2013.03.27 23:50:00 - [8] - Quote Yes, because in real life there are plasma shooting guns that can be shot through the barrel of a tank. Stop your whining. Forge guns are fine. You are complaining about having to two shot a dropship? If CCP made it your way then there would be idiots running around one-shoting every vehicle they see. It's not broken CCP, don't listen to him.
Soldier of Mawat Amat Al'Mawat Militia 15	Posted - 2013.03.27 23:54:00 - [9] - Quote Militia FG should kill everything in one hit! They should also have unlimited range, lock onto targets, and fire fully automatic with a 1000 round magazine. Oh and you should be given isk whenever you buy them, instead of having to spend isk to get them.
Berserker007 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 260	Posted - 2013.03.27 23:56:00 - [10] - Quote Moon Cricket Bob wrote: Seriously, these have to be the most underwhelming weapon in the game. Im tired of getting killed by infantry that just spray and pray and kill me. 2.5 second charge time on an assault forge gun is ridiculous, it needs to be about 1 second since on the weapon description it says is the most devasting anti infantry weapon out there. Against LAV's they're fine, usually 1 shot and then you get the free kill. Dropships on the otherhand simply can tank too much damage for a single forge user. Seriously 2 shots to bring one down? Those things are flimsy pieces of crap, 1 shot from a forge should be plenty to take them out. Also before the QQ from dropship pilots you have to understand where I'm coming from. First of all, aiming that thing is intense. Super intense. We even have to lead our shots sometimes when you activate your broken afterburners since your traveling at a rate of speed so high its hard to hit you. And tanks? Don't get me started on tanks. How come I can't solo higher tier tanks? If you hit the treads on it they should fall off and the tank only be allowed to drive in circles. Its only fair. Also if you aim at the tank turrent the forge gun round should be able to travel down the barrel and blow the tank up from the inside. Hello CCP! Do you not watch hollywood movies? These things happen all the time, even in real life. Please can we have real physics when dealing with tanks. Thank you. HTFU

Xender17 Oblivion S.G.X 15	Posted - 2013.03.27 23:58:00 - [11] - Quote If it shot out a giant metal ball it would have a bigger blast radius.
Moon Cricket Bob Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 29	Posted - 2013.03.28 00:00:00 - [12] - Quote Soldier of Mawat wrote: Militia FG should kill everything in one hit! They should also have unlimited range, lock onto targets, and fire fully automatic with a 1000 round magazine. Oh and you should be given isk whenever you buy them, instead of having to spend isk to get them. I'm not talking about militia fgs, I don't use those anyway. Stop trying to troll and steer this into something irrelevant. Proto fgs are really expensive so they should kill other expensive stuff easy, like the sagaris. I wanna shoot down his barrel but it wouldn't happen anyone because fg aiming is broken.
Alan-Ibn-Xuan Al-Alasabe Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 194	Posted - 2013.03.28 00:01:00 - [13] - Quote ITT: man complains that his weapon can't insta-gib everything.
Moon Cricket Bob Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 29	Posted - 2013.03.28 00:16:00 - [14] - Quote Alan-Ibn-Xuan Al-Alasabe wrote: ITT: man complains that his weapon can't insta-gib everything. Im not particullary concerned with the infantry killing aspect of it even though models with faster charge rate and lower damage would be nice. I just want want to shoot down barrels because , awesome.
Nguruthos IX Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 174	Posted - 2013.03.28 00:25:00 - [15] - Quote the sad thing is there are actually non-troll players who think this way :(
Soldier of Mawat Amat Al'Mawat Militia 17	Posted - 2013.03.28 00:29:00 - [16] - Quote Moon Cricket Bob wrote: Soldier of Mawat wrote: Militia FG should kill everything in one hit! They should also have unlimited range, lock onto targets, and fire fully automatic with a 1000 round magazine. Oh and you should be given isk whenever you buy them, instead of having to spend isk to get them. I'm not talking about militia fgs, I don't use those anyway. Stop trying to troll and steer this into something irrelevant. Proto fgs are really expensive so they should kill other expensive stuff easy, like the sagaris. I wanna shoot down his barrel but it wouldn't happen anyone because fg aiming is broken. Ok, in all seriousness FG's really are fine where they are. 2 shots to bring down a dropship? What is fair about that? It's already hard enough for pilots as is, they don't need cross map forge gunners dropping them in an instant. With the accuracy and power of the FG there needs to be draw backs, charge time and leading shots are enough IMO to balance it. If there was a 1 second timer charge then the gunner could get off every shot of his magazine in under 10 seconds, and that would be unfair against tanks because then they would have no time at all to get into cover.
crazy space 1 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 973	Posted - 2013.03.28 00:36:00 - [17] - Quote ERIOUSLY GUYS???? TWO SHOTS???? dropships OP
Nguruthos IX Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 176	Posted - 2013.03.28 00:38:00 - [18] - Quote crazy space 1 wrote: ERIOUSLY GUYS???? TWO SHOTS???? dropships OP I'd just be impressed they survived the RDV
Altina McAlterson TRUE TEA BAGGERS 427	Posted - 2013.03.28 00:44:00 - [19] - Quote Some advice to anyone with even the tiniest inkling of the notion that forge guns need a buff: Wait until you've been in a match with me and Another Heavy SOB when we're both running forges before you make a decision.
Stinker Butt UnReaL. 121	Posted - 2013.03.28 01:05:00 - [20] - Quote I don't think you can take the OP seriously. But while you're at it, why don't we make all weapons one hit kill? then everyone will enjoy the game as much as the OP with his forge gun.

Jason Pearson Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 783	Posted - 2013.03.28 01:44:00 - [21] - Quote What is this I don't even..
Moon Cricket Bob Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 30	Posted - 2013.03.28 02:01:00 - [22] - Quote Stinker Butt wrote: I don't think you can take the OP seriously. But while you're at it, why don't we make all weapons one hit kill? then everyone will enjoy the game as much as the OP with his forge gun. Dude I'm not trying to have any one upmanship with all these troll threads lately, Im just want ccp to take a realistic look at balancing issues we have now in regards to the upcoming build. Great, we get pc and all that good stuff but where is the fun going to be if only certain tiers of weapons can perform well and were still not able to shoot down a tank barrel.
Soldier of Mawat Amat Al'Mawat Militia 17	Posted - 2013.03.28 02:37:00 - [23] - Quote Moon Cricket Bob wrote: Stinker Butt wrote: I don't think you can take the OP seriously. But while you're at it, why don't we make all weapons one hit kill? then everyone will enjoy the game as much as the OP with his forge gun. Dude I'm not trying to have any one upmanship with all these troll threads lately, Im just want ccp to take a realistic look at balancing issues we have now in regards to the upcoming build. Great, we get pc and all that good stuff but where is the fun going to be if only certain tiers of weapons can perform well and were still not able to shoot down a tank barrel. I think you should just let go of the idea that you will ever be able to shoot down the tank barrel. i don't know of any games that have that feature and it would probably be near impossible to do anyways. And even if you do shoot down the tank barrel I can't see any reason why it should be a one hit kill. No matter what tank it is there should never ever be a way to destroy it in one hit because that would be unfair to the tanker.
Celeblhach Goggles Inc. 2	Posted - 2013.03.28 03:49:00 - [24] - Quote Just to be nice, I'll respond seriously. It would be impossible in "real life" to shoot down the barrel of a Dust Tank with a Forge Gun and destroy it in one hit. Dust Tanks don't have explosive shells. They use railguns or missiles, and yes, blasters are types of railguns. Missiles typically don't arm until fired, and railgun rounds are just chunks of metal (Tungsten in the modern era). Technically, it doesn't even need a long barrel, just enough to run a charge through, so no complaints about destroying the barrel to destroy a tank in one shot too. Also, no matter how many movies you see, a single round from a man-portable weapon is not going to bring down something the size of a dropship. You don't expect an RPG-7 to take out a F-22 or AH-1Z in one shot, right? If you do, then go study aerodynamics and the properties of titanium alloys, which I'm sure are far less advanced than whatever there is in EVE. (On the AH-1Z, it's max take-off weight is 18.6k lbs, or 8.4k kg which means its rotor produces MORE down-force than that. Most man-portable weapons won't even hit one because of that down-force.) Perhaps, you can argue that dropships and tanks need weak points, but unless I'm mistaken, they already have those.
Rusty Shallows Creative Killers 27	Posted - 2013.03.28 07:41:00 - [25] - Quote Moon Cricket Bob wrote: Dropships on the otherhand simply can tank too much damage for a single forge user. Seriously 2 shots to bring one down? Those things are flimsy pieces of crap, To be honest when reading through that part I thought this was a humorous troll thread. With all seriousness in the current game build they're Anti-Instillation (Turret) weapons. It's only through skill and effort that they are made useful for the Freebie-LAV kills, timed shot on the heavy HMG rolling around the corner, or counter-sniping (or sniper execution from behind, best forge kills ever), etc, etc.
Syther Shadows The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 53	Posted - 2013.03.28 07:47:00 - [26] - Quote Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha +1
Coleman Gray RED COLONIAL MARINES Covert Intervention 133	Posted - 2013.03.28 07:57:00 - [27] - Quote So how would you buff the forge gun? it doesn't need a damage boost thats for certain. The best CCP can do it lower charge times and that'll just cause tears from people moaning about Forge gunners bein able to shoot to fast.
Laurent Cazaderon Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1245	Posted - 2013.03.28 08:25:00 - [28] - Quote Moon Cricket Bob wrote: Seriously, these have to be the most underwhelming weapon in the game. Im tired of getting killed by infantry that just spray and pray and kill me. 2.5 second charge time on an assault forge gun is ridiculous, it needs to be about 1 second since on the weapon description it says is the most devasting anti infantry weapon out there. Against LAV's they're fine, usually 1 shot and then you get the free kill. Dropships on the otherhand simply can tank too much damage for a single forge user. Seriously 2 shots to bring one down? Those things are flimsy pieces of crap, 1 shot from a forge should be plenty to take them out. Also before the QQ from dropship pilots you have to understand where I'm coming from. First of all, aiming that thing is intense. Super intense. We even have to lead our shots sometimes when you activate your broken afterburners since your traveling at a rate of speed so high its hard to hit you. And tanks? Don't get me started on tanks. How come I can't solo higher tier tanks? If you hit the treads on it they should fall off and the tank only be allowed to drive in circles. Its only fair. Also if you aim at the tank turrent the forge gun round should be able to travel down the barrel and blow the tank up from the inside. Hello CCP! Do you not watch hollywood movies? These things happen all the time, even in real life. Please can we have real physics when dealing with tanks. Thank you. This cannot be serious. Please do tell me you're a massive troll. If not, then just leave this game as you're so wrong there's no way you can go back.
Oxskull Duncarino Shadow Company HQ 184	Posted - 2013.03.28 08:44:00 - [29] - Quote I smell a troll. Frankly, everyone should be having a laugh at the OP. The forge is grand. Max out its operations and the charge time is significantly reduced. Aiming does take practice but seeing as to the potential return when you get good, it's perfectly balanced. And, it is the only weapon group I'll use all variants of, sometimes in the one match. Different hammers for different jobs And as someone posted above, a couple of forge gunners working together will tear apart HAVs. Back to the main fact though. The OP is trolling.
Captain-Awesome Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 368	Posted - 2013.03.28 09:03:00 - [30] - Quote my only issue with forge gun is the accuracy. other than that - it's fine. There are times where I think " that should have exploded in his face. IN HIS FACE!" yet it passes right through them. I guess the travel time doesn't help but oh well, I guess the forge gun stats will tell wolfman if there's something wrong



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