Okay, let's take another example. Minecraft. They accepted money for their ALPHA. Another two alphas I've bought into, Kinetic Void and Starforge Alpha. Hell, there's a whole section on steam dedicated to "Early Access".

Another one is Arma 3... And another is Trials Gold: Evolution.

Need any more examples?

Essentially, all you've done by complaining about game development and asking the devs to "speed up" is to show your entitled side. Asking for transparency... They don't need to provide it. Perhaps it's in their best interests NOT to provide it. Unexpected setbacks occur in game development, which means they may need to leave features out of this update to be put in later, or they might delay any planned deadline so that they can put certain, almost-finished-but-not-quite features in.

If they set a release date, and didn't meet it, how annoyed would you be? If they said this feature would be in and it wasn't, how much grief would you give CCP? I can imagine more so than you do now.

Regnum, if you can't tell, I play skirmish way more than ambush. Hence, my games aren't recorded.

I played back in closed beta, so yes, I do know how much (or little) progress has been made. I had no access to a PS3 for six months, and all those games played have been in the past week and a half. So yes, go ahead, imply that I don't like the game.

Oddly enough, I don't know why my WP isn't higher. I probably got 8k today alone... I have hit my cap for this week, already, and that's definitely more than 10 games.

Ydubbs, no, I'm asking you to cut CCP some slack. And kills hardly matters, I did play this game eight months ago, so I can see how few features have been put in. I've waited for this game since it was first announced, so I get the feeling of waiting. But rushing CCP doesn't make a better game.

No. Repeatedly I've seen you, and others, complain that the game is boring. There have been complaints about the number of maps, slow gameplay, new game modes, everything. Almost all of those come from the same people, and the threads come within days of each other. The same people make the same complaints, day after day. They ask for the content as quickly as possible, when they don't realise how long game development takes.

Yes, you're sick of the same game over and over again. Yes, you complain over and over. For example, your thread re: stop paying CCP. You want to motivate them, in order to speed up game development. I honestly cannot think of a more immature and entitled way of getting someone to do something for you.

You don't NEED to send them a message. They KNOW. They're coding and making content as quickly as they can, and doing something as idiotic as not giving them money because they're being SLOW about it is the worst idea I've ever heard.

They KNOW everything about how to improve their game as they've heard it from twenty different people, ten times a day, over the last eight months.

Cut CCP some slack.

Why is the argument of the fan boys to always say people are acting entitled?

CCP doesn't owe me anything.

What CCP does want is my money. As much of it as they can convince me to spend.

Me telling them what they have to do to get my money HELPS THEM GET MY MONEY.

Why are you guys so dense to not realize that I WANT THIS GAME TO BE BETTER SO I CAN SPEND MORE ON IT!

Idiots like you prevent CCP from making more money.

And if they can't give us new content then give us some tentative dates or approximations or something.

They've announced something for around Fanfest. That's been known for a while.

@General: Apologies, I've seen too many of "this game is awful fix it" threads, that they kind of all mold into one complaint.

I also get that you don't need DUST, but DUST needs you. That's what I'm trying to say - you're saying you won't give them money unless they do something you want. It is, in effect, coercion.

It's up to CCP whether to release information or not. They've announced upcoming features, and what they want to be in the game for release. They don't want to be premature in anything else they do, and I can fully understand that.

You do realise that Fox Four meant that as a harmless bit of fun? That CCP enjoys playing practical jokes on people? In fact, go through the first page of this thread.

http://community.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1232785

Also look up the boot.ini. Two very notable events for CCP, in which QA was very important, and two events which show they care very much, and love getting involved with the community.

Hey, when was the last time you heard someone from Valve talking about how great Half Life 3 is going to be? No one from Valve has even said it is in development.

When did Blizzard start taking cash for WoW? Not before it was released.

Your comparisons don't hold wait because the are all for retail products/subscription based MMO's. None of which had an extended open beta period where the developer was accepting real money.

Why is the argument of the fan boys to always say people are acting entitled?

CCP doesn't owe me anything.

What CCP does want is my money. As much of it as they can convince me to spend.

Me telling them what they have to do to get my money HELPS THEM GET MY MONEY.

Why are you guys so dense to not realize that I WANT THIS GAME TO BE BETTER SO I CAN SPEND MORE ON IT!

Idiots like you prevent CCP from making more money.

@Laheon

Lets just see how much you play the game. Because you must play this game a lot, to tell the Vets how to think and feel regarding the development of the game.

Total Kills: 102

Total War Points: 8, 322

KDR 0.74

WLR O.87


Now it is really easy for you to stand on the sidelines and wave the Fanboi Flag, when you don't even play the game. However, the Vets are dealing with the now, which includes all these problem your hearing about. You have the right to you opinion just do not expect it carry any wight.... especially in these topics.
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This Thread is helping prove my theory, that Fanbois don't even play the game that they support

I also get that you don't need DUST, but DUST needs you. That's what I'm trying to say - you're saying you won't give them money unless they do something you want. It is, in effect, coercion.

First, they announced an announcement at fanfest. That is not the same as announcing an update.

Personally, I believe that we won't get an update until the next Eve update, which is on June 4th. Have CCP said anything of the sort? Of course not.

If CCP wants to be secretive, and not give anyone a date, that is their choice. My response is to not give them any more money. I encourage people who feel the same to do the same. Not because I want to hurt CCP, but because I am genuinely concerned about how this lack of information will affect the player base. Because I do understand that for this game to be successful, it needs a large playerbase, and with the current manner in which information is being handled, it will alienate people.

I have people ask me about Dust, about why I play it so much, and what is so good about it. I am getting fed up with trying to explain to them about the potential for the game, only for them to ask me: "Well, when does all that stuff come out?" To which my answer can only be "F'd if I know".

I have a large number of people that I brought into Dust with me. Out of a group of about 50, only 4 are still left playing. With that type of player retention, this game is in for a rough ride. And I really don't want to see that happen. The players are the best form of advertising you could have for this type of title. By keeping them in the dark, you limit their ability to do your marketing for you.

As for Foxfours antics, if CCP wants to play jokes on people, do it after this game has hit 1.0, not before, and certainly not once you have whipped the community into a furor. If you wind them up and then troll them, that is beyond a **** move, it shows blatant disrespect for your customers. I am sure they got a laugh out of it. I hope they did.

General...you couldn't say it any better. I don't understand these guys that post with their right hand and holding the devs crotch in the other. I WANT DUST TO SUCCEED. I LIKE THE GAME. I've bought more mercpacks than I need...I support this game and try to spread the word about it.

But this is a beta since you guys are so adamant on reminding everyone. So, in the development of this game, we must tell them where they are going wrong in order for the game to be better. Not to mention, we've been playing this game for months in the dark....who's going to be playing an OPEN beta for 2 years?