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Goric Rumis
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.03.24 22:15:00 -
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GeneralButtNaked wrote:XXfootnoteXX wrote:
Where is that date coming from?
Next Eve update is June 4th. Considering that PC is going to take place in a region where there are currently no districts, it is only logical that in order to have our PC zone, the update to Eve will give us that space. So, June 4th, not before. Not necessarily. It's already been established that the districts don't really affect EVE play directly at this point. So they wouldn't have to update EVE to put the districts into place.
That said, I wouldn't be surprised if they're trying to synch the releases. It seems like a logical thing to do at some point. |
Calgoth Reborn
United Front LLC
177
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Posted - 2013.03.24 22:18:00 -
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I did vote with my wallet and it was a yes vote think I have spent about 100$ so far and won't hesitate to spend more once my Aurum get's low |
Aqua-Regia
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
26
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Posted - 2013.03.24 22:21:00 -
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Calgoth Reborn wrote:I did vote with my wallet and it was a yes vote think I have spent about 100$ so far and won't hesitate to spend more once my Aurum get's low +1 |
RydogV
Shadow Company HQ
105
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Posted - 2013.03.24 22:25:00 -
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I cannot teach him. The boy has no patience. Much anger in him....
Ready are you? What know you of ready?
This one a long time have I watched. All his life has he looked away... to the future, to the horizon. Never his mind on where he was. Hmm? What he was doing. Hmph. Adventure. Heh. Excitement. Heh...
...you are reckless!! |
Indianna Pwns
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
20
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Posted - 2013.03.24 22:31:00 -
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Calgoth Reborn wrote:I did vote with my wallet and it was a yes vote think I have spent about 100$ so far and won't hesitate to spend more once my Aurum get's low
Wow fair play to you.
I bought the merc pack and don't regret doing so as I have spent countless hours playing this game already (and enjoying it most of the time), however I feel as of right now the game does not offer me sufficient value for me to continue spending. They would literally have to blow me out of the water with future updates.
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low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
4
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Posted - 2013.03.24 22:31:00 -
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GeneralButtNaked wrote:I like Dust. I like so many things about it.
But there are too many things missing, and no info coming from the devs.
If you feel the same, I encourage you to do the following:
Stop giving them money.
Don't buy merc packs or aurum, don't buy starter packs.
More importantly, either sign in this thread that you will not pay for this type of treatment, or start a thread announcing that you are done giving money until we get some real progress.
CCP has been getting what is a free ride on this beta, because most of us are committed to Dust for the long haul, and are willing to overlook short term problems.
This in turn allows CCP far too much leeway. They need to be shown that the community that is ready to support this game will not be taken advantage of.
Let CCP know that when the game is worth money, you will be a paying supporter, but the current situation is unacceptable.
We want set dates for content releases. We want a proper roadmap for promised features. We want to know how CCP intends to get from what we have now to where they want a release version to be.
We will not get any change in CCPs treatment of the dust player base while people continue to hand over cash. It would be stupid of them to do so.
So lets smarten up and cut off their funding, see if that changes their tune. Only we can make that happen.
jagoff |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming
75
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Posted - 2013.03.24 22:44:00 -
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GeneralButtNaked wrote:I like Dust. I like so many things about it.
But there are too many things missing, and no info coming from the devs.
If you feel the same, I encourage you to do the following:
Stop giving them money.
Don't buy merc packs or aurum, don't buy starter packs.
More importantly, either sign in this thread that you will not pay for this type of treatment, or start a thread announcing that you are done giving money until we get some real progress.
CCP has been getting what is a free ride on this beta, because most of us are committed to Dust for the long haul, and are willing to overlook short term problems.
This in turn allows CCP far too much leeway. They need to be shown that the community that is ready to support this game will not be taken advantage of.
Let CCP know that when the game is worth money, you will be a paying supporter, but the current situation is unacceptable.
We want set dates for content releases. We want a proper roadmap for promised features. We want to know how CCP intends to get from what we have now to where they want a release version to be.
We will not get any change in CCPs treatment of the dust player base while people continue to hand over cash. It would be stupid of them to do so.
So lets smarten up and cut off their funding, see if that changes their tune. Only we can make that happen.
The last time somebody thought to teach CCP a lesson and cut off their funding, CCP lost a major part of their staff to layoffs and discontinued all walking-in-stations content indefinitely.
Sure, you cut off their funding and see where that gets you with a game as unfinished as this.
Or, you could stop throwing a tantrum and go read a book or something until the next build has something new for you to play with.
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Tenchu-13
What The French CRONOS.
90
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Posted - 2013.03.24 23:04:00 -
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Just what this, already falling apart, community needs... more self-entitled ('freeloaders') thinking CCP owns them anything...
Seriously... your 'Call to Arms', or should I say your 'Call to Empoverish" CCP is as childish as some of the responses in this thread. You ask people to not give any money to CCP till they meet your 'demands', how old are you 10 ?
If you would have thought even the slightest bit about 'post', you would have already noticed that it is just plain dumb. Do you really thing that cutting off the income from Dust will change anything for CCP. Pretty sure that most of their stable income still comes, and will always come from EVE.
75% of the community probably never has and never will give any money to CCP in the first place. If you haven't done so by now, you won't do so in the future. (even do there are always exceptions... the majority simply won't).
Also to those that can't wrap their minds around the fact that some people pay for a game that is in Beta... either we (me included) simply have more faith in the game then others, or we simply aren't a bunch of whining - self entitled cheapskates that are glad to drop a few bucks every now and then to aide in the dev. of a game we like. I have payed 60 bucks for games that seriously sucked so why wouldn't I pay for something I think is pretty sweet.
At times I seriously wonder if the problem lies with me or with some of you... because we seriously see things in a totally different perspective.
/rant over |
BASSMEANT
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
168
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Posted - 2013.03.24 23:13:00 -
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nice try.
too many scabs willing to cross the line. won't work.
i asked em ages ago how much they made so far and they dodged it and locked it.
my guess is that the devs from zipper are KICKING themselves for not coming up with this scam first.
think about it:
people are PAYING to pay play a beta. and most of em are actually thinking it's a good game at that.
not sure which is worse: the low quality of this game or the denial of the player base.
prolly equal.
Peace B |
Aqua-Regia
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
27
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Posted - 2013.03.24 23:13:00 -
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Tenchu-13 wrote:Just what this, already falling apart, community needs... more self-entitled ('freeloaders') thinking CCP owns them anything...
Seriously... your 'Call to Arms', or should I say your 'Call to Empoverish" CCP is as childish as some of the responses in this thread. You ask people to not give any money to CCP till they meet your 'demands', how old are you 10 ?
If you would have thought even the slightest bit about 'post', you would have already noticed that it is just plain dumb. Do you really thing that cutting off the income from Dust will change anything for CCP. Pretty sure that most of their stable income still comes, and will always come from EVE.
75% of the community probably never has and never will give any money to CCP in the first place. If you haven't done so by now, you won't do so in the future. (even do there are always exceptions... the majority simply won't).
Also to those that can't wrap their minds around the fact that some people pay for a game that is in Beta... either we (me included) simply have more faith in the game then others, or we simply aren't a bunch of whining - self entitled cheapskates that are glad to drop a few bucks every now and then to aide in the dev. of a game we like. I have payed 60 bucks for games that seriously sucked so why wouldn't I pay for something I think is pretty sweet.
At times I seriously wonder if the problem lies with me or with some of you... because we seriously see things in a totally different perspective.
/rant over
What The French said! +1 |
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BASSMEANT
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
169
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Posted - 2013.03.24 23:23:00 -
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"either we (me included) simply have more faith in the game then others, or we simply aren't a bunch of whining - self entitled cheapskates "
or....
or....
or....
you got ripped off.
again, this denial... it's not a good look.
i admitted my mistakes supporting zipper. and i messed up supprting dice/ea. and ubisoft. and others and learned well enough to never put down dime one on ANY of these games, no matter how much the brain dead under 30 fanbois swear this is the way to go unless the game works and is worth it. so yeah.
there's a third option you left out.
Peace B |
Laheon
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
235
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Posted - 2013.03.24 23:28:00 -
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Bass, so cynical. You don't know CCP as a games company. You probably heard about this game as being similar to MAG, and thought to try it out.
Then... You have no idea about CCP's reputation. It has an amazing reputation amongst anyone who has played EVE, perhaps not in how quickly it develops games, but in its customer support and its dedication to developing a good game.
What really annoys me about people who target CCP are that they really don't have any clue what they're talking about. CCP are a meticulous games developer, regardless of genre, and want to develop games to the highest quality possible. That means taking time. |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming
75
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Posted - 2013.03.24 23:29:00 -
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BASSMEANT wrote:"either we (me included) simply have more faith in the game then others, or we simply aren't a bunch of whining - self entitled cheapskates "
or....
or....
or....
you got ripped off.
again, this denial... it's not a good look.
i admitted my mistakes supporting zipper. and i messed up supprting dice/ea. and ubisoft. and others and learned well enough to never put down dime one on ANY of these games, no matter how much the brain dead under 30 fanbois swear this is the way to go unless the game works and is worth it. so yeah.
there's a third option you left out.
Peace B
So basically, a bunch of TCD guys got together on coms and started having an angsty circle jerk over the state of the game and now we have to hear about it on the forums.
Thanks for sharing.
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BASSMEANT
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
169
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Posted - 2013.03.24 23:32:00 -
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again...
your denial.
work on that during your next therapy session.
Peace B
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Laheon
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
235
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Posted - 2013.03.24 23:37:00 -
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Your post is in breach of both rules 2 and 4, which I was trying to abide by, so here goes.
All your posts sound immature. Sadly, for you, since it destroys your credibility. You're complaining about things about which you have no idea, including but not limited to games development. It takes a very, very long time to develop a game, so if you had any idea about games, and if you could be anything other than an entitled brat, you would see that CCP is doing the best it can.
Also, that "Peace B" thing. It makes you sound about 12. Please stop. |
ReGnUM Public Relations
Imperfects Public Relations
56
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Posted - 2013.03.24 23:38:00 -
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Thank you I was thinking of buying a Merc Pack, but you have just confirmed why I should not spend a another cent.
+1 |
Tenchu-13
What The French CRONOS.
91
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Posted - 2013.03.24 23:43:00 -
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BASSMEANT wrote:
you got ripped off.
again, this denial... it's not a good look.
i admitted my mistakes supporting zipper. and i messed up supprting dice/ea. and ubisoft. and others and learned well enough to never put down dime one on ANY of these games, no matter how much the brain dead under 30 fanbois swear this is the way to go unless the game works and is worth it. so yeah.
there's a third option you left out.
Peace B
Dude there is no denial from my side. I like the game, I have been playing "I have no clue" how many 100's of hours... WHY am I in denial.. because i payed for it. Lets say i played around 400-500 hours (easily) over the last 7/8 months. Even if someone would have payed them 60 bucks for it - it would still have been freakingly cheap. How many games have you played over 500 hours for 60 bucks ? 1, 2 ?
Trust me there is no denial here.. but then again I didn't make the mistake to invest in stuff that in the end sucked or didn't get released... apparently unlike you ;) |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming
76
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Posted - 2013.03.24 23:44:00 -
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BASSMEANT wrote:again...
your denial.
work on that during your next therapy session.
Peace B
Are you a betting man, by chance?
I feel like I could make a lot of fake space money off of a fellow as emotionally stubborn as you. |
GeneralButtNaked
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
215
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Posted - 2013.03.25 00:06:00 -
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Tenchu-13 wrote: Seriously... your 'Call to Arms', or should I say your 'Call to Empoverish" CCP is as childish as some of the responses in this thread. You ask people to not give any money to CCP till they meet your 'demands', how old are you 10 ?
This is not blackmail. This is not a hostage situation. This is me expressing discontent with the manner in which the devs are performing and deciding to withhold any further compensation from them until the show they deserve it. If CCP doesn't want to change, so be it, if they want to keep us in the dark, and be bitches about it, ok. But I certainly won't pay for that type of service.
Tenchu-13 wrote: If you would have thought even the slightest bit about 'post', you would have already noticed that it is just plain dumb. Do you really thing that cutting off the income from Dust will change anything for CCP. Pretty sure that most of their stable income still comes, and will always come from EVE.
If CCP didn't think they could make money with Dust, they wouldn't have made it. Besides, if what you are saying is that my Eve subscription fees are the only reason why bums like you are playing Dust, then I should be more upset right?
Tenchu-13 wrote: 75% of the community probably never has and never will give any money to CCP in the first place. If you haven't done so by now, you won't do so in the future. (even do there are always exceptions... the majority simply won't).
I have given money to CCP, so this statement is absolutely useless.
Tenchu-13 wrote: Also to those that can't wrap their minds around the fact that some people pay for a game that is in Beta... either we (me included) simply have more faith in the game then others, or we simply aren't a bunch of whining - self entitled cheapskates that are glad to drop a few bucks every now and then to aide in the dev. of a game we like. I have payed 60 bucks for games that seriously sucked so why wouldn't I pay for something I think is pretty sweet.
False dilemma. Learn to argue. I had no problem throwing cash to CCP to get into the closed beta. Now, seeing what they have done in the time since I got in, I have decided that they do not deserve further funding from me. If CCP wants more of my money, they have to earn it.
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Th3rdSun
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
329
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Posted - 2013.03.25 00:07:00 -
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N1ck Comeau wrote:Great idea guys lets stop giving the company money so then they go bankrupt and can't make anything for the game Are you f*&%#$ kidding?!
CCP ain't going bankrupt anytime soon,with all of the EVE subscriptions. |
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Rupture Reaperson
Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION
70
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Posted - 2013.03.25 00:15:00 -
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Low standards, low standards everywhere.
I wonder why is it so ill for someone to propose that CCP steps up the developing proces and gives us more feedback and an actual plan for the game development? Its like asking for improvement its acording to CCP and half of the community "A rant". And thats a stupid rule into itself, if it was "a rant without any factual point to stand" that I could understand, ******* people man, Im telling you. |
Tenchu-13
What The French CRONOS.
91
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Posted - 2013.03.25 00:43:00 -
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[GeneralButtNaked]
Not here to argue.. you give us your pov., and so did I.
And trust me 'bums' like me don't need people like you paying for them, If there where more bums lke me ccp would have a shitload of money by now. |
GeneralButtNaked
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
225
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Posted - 2013.03.25 01:48:00 -
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Tenchu-13 wrote:[GeneralButtNaked]
Not here to argue.. you give us your pov., and so did I.
And trust me 'bums' like me don't need people like you paying for them, If there where more bums lke me ccp would have a shitload of money by now.
Actually, I owe you an apology for the bums comment. I mucked up and thought you were one of the freebies. Totally uncalled for on my part.
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Patoman Radiant
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
58
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Posted - 2013.03.25 03:16:00 -
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I disagree
I don't like how the game is unfinished (beta), but then again. how would the game having less money help develop stuff faster. Isn't bankruptcy a killer for games, literally game over.
Also in the past development of the game was funded from eve, which lead to diminished development of that (flying in spaceships). being self sufficient means its not limited to the back burner if revenue from eve is being redirected to something else.. |
BASSMEANT
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
174
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Posted - 2013.03.25 11:47:00 -
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credibility???????
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
holy crap i think your helmet is on too tight.
Peace B |
Aighun
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
682
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Posted - 2013.03.25 12:00:00 -
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It is time to hold your breath people! |
snipper doo
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2013.04.06 01:39:00 -
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Bump |
Knight SoIaire
Better Hide R Die
141
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Posted - 2013.04.06 01:41:00 -
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I never buy AUR so this shouldn't be hard. |
DeadlyAztec11
One-Armed Bandits Atrocitas
17
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Posted - 2013.04.06 01:44:00 -
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Remember grasshoppers, you can lead a horse to water but you can not make him drink. Also 1GÇó1 does not equal 2 |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
56
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Posted - 2013.04.06 03:23:00 -
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GeneralButtNaked wrote:I like Dust. I like so many things about it.
But there are too many things missing, and no info coming from the devs.
If you feel the same, I encourage you to do the following:
Stop giving them money.
Don't buy merc packs or aurum, don't buy starter packs.
More importantly, either sign in this thread that you will not pay for this type of treatment, or start a thread announcing that you are done giving money until we get some real progress.
CCP has been getting what is a free ride on this beta, because most of us are committed to Dust for the long haul, and are willing to overlook short term problems.
This in turn allows CCP far too much leeway. They need to be shown that the community that is ready to support this game will not be taken advantage of.
Let CCP know that when the game is worth money, you will be a paying supporter, but the current situation is unacceptable.
We want set dates for content releases. We want a proper roadmap for promised features. We want to know how CCP intends to get from what we have now to where they want a release version to be.
We will not get any change in CCPs treatment of the dust player base while people continue to hand over cash. It would be stupid of them to do so.
So lets smarten up and cut off their funding, see if that changes their tune. Only we can make that happen.
I agree and disagree with this. There is a lot of this post that makes sense, though it is also a sound argument that they need continued revenue (though I disagree with this being used in an alarmist fashion). My question is where are the content checkboxes when we purchase AUR/Merc Packs/Etc?
Why not give us content selections that we can earmark our cash towards? This would give us a roadmap as well as giving CCP cash. I personally want free-roam, open world gameplay, Eve on planets as it were. If I had the ability to earmark my cash towards that, I'd probably be willing to spend more of it.
Let us choose what you use our money to develop (or do you really have that little faith in your players as consumers?) |
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