I've never seen MAG before, but LMFAO, please for the love of New Eden CCP; do not make DUST look like that. I understand that MAG had massive scale fights, and to that extent, yes, CCP needs to get their act together and give us some real multiplayer. But as far as the actual gameplay? Hahaha, yea, DUST is far more interesting already and it's still very young (aka, not even released)

Oh man, thanks for the laugh. Good times, gooood tiiimees.

wow that was horrible game play. what a knifing ***** that was holly **** im glad i didn't play mag. you could get that type of rush from playing any game if you were good enough. i had a rush yesterday me vs 15 people and i won.

DUST is nowhere near the level MAG was. MAG did so many basic things the right way, which made for a great game. There were bad things as well, but the good things outweigh those by far in my opinion. Dust is not that good gameplay wise, and seriously needs to step up bigtime, and soon.

MAG Domination >>>>>>>>>>>> Dust Skirmish.

Edit: Oh and no one is asking for Dust to be the exact same as MAG, but so many things are wrong in Dust at the moment.

I loved MAG, but that was a horrible montage and I can understand DUST Fiend's response to it

Name a better montage .... just one..just ONE

I've never seen MAG before, but LMFAO, please for the love of New Eden CCP; do not make DUST look like that. I understand that MAG had massive scale fights, and to that extent, yes, CCP needs to get their act together and give us some real multiplayer. But as far as the actual gameplay? Hahaha, yea, DUST is far more interesting already and it's still very young (aka, not even released)

Oh man, thanks for the laugh. Good times, gooood tiiimees.

Name a better montage .... just one..just ONE

You search youtube instead

You will find plenty, and not montages either full games

DUST is nowhere near the level MAG was. MAG did so many basic things the right way, which made for a great game. There were bad things as well, but the good things outweigh those by far in my opinion. Dust is not that good gameplay wise, and seriously needs to step up bigtime, and soon.

MAG Domination >>>>>>>>>>>> Dust Skirmish.

Edit: Oh and no one is asking for Dust to be the exact same as MAG, but so many things are wrong in Dust at the moment.

I'm sure you knew what montage I'd list..

Of course, Raptor's montage is a bunch of random Sabo matches whereas this montage is footage from scrimmages, but that was what made Sabotage worthwhile imo, good competition. These people at least shot back and weren't just being knifed in the back

...DUST lacks the frantic, adrenaline pumping gameplay right now. Dust gameplay is slow with zero sense of urgency.

this isn't about full games.....this is capturing highlights. And capturing Dust highlights are not easy to come by...and if you do, they still don't compare to the carnage in other shooters.

This isn't a Dust hate thread....it is a Dust wake-up-call thread. Let's not get it twisted

Yay, another thread comparing MAG to DUST. Two games with completely different aims.

Stop comparing the two, dammit. There's no point. If you don't like DUST, then go play something else. If you actually want to help improve the game, then post constructively. Saying "make it like MAG" is hardly helpful, and not to mention completely ridiculous. DUST is NOT MAG. Get over it, people.

Dude, **** MAG....although this video is from MAG, you guys are missing the point. This isn't a MAG>Dust thread. This is a thread showing what good gameplay looks like. If I knew a good BF3 infantry montage, then I would display it. Raptor's video came to mind because he made some epic montages in his day.

Dude, **** MAG....although this video is from MAG, you guys are missing the point.

Highlights mean **** all

Anyone can pick and choose parts of matches and put em together

Full games show the good the bad and the ugly in 1 long video,no breaks, no bias or bs added either, it shows everything

Even in tournament battles where you're behind on MCC armor and two letters are being held versus your one letter, DUST just lacks the sense of urgency that a single random game of MAG had :(

YOu're comparing Dust to MAG and saying MAG is good. How the hell is that NOT a MAG>dust thread?

Seriously, think about it for a minute.

Show me a dust montage that can compare. It's about taking the best, right? Well show me the best that Dust had to offer.

If you had to advertise Dust to another shooter to try and get him to play...what will you show him? If I wanted to showcase MAG, there are tons of good montages out there that will reflect the carnage in MAG. I wouldn't have to look hard.

And sure there may be some good Dust montages out there but compare the gameplay to others. Once again...this isn't a Dust hate thread, as I really like the game and I put hours into it. But you guys aren't helping by accepting mediocrity. I have guys that are really trying to enjoy the gameplay but really play just because our clan is active in it. I'm still trying to convince others to play but they just are not impressed yet.

DOn't come to this game and ask for it to be like MAG. Personally, I quit MAG two days after I rented it to try it out. It was just WAY too fast and the weapons balance was ******.


Dust has a great speed balance, finally. Makes for good squad fights.

Dust doesn't have to be MAG...but it has to step up the gameplay. Increase player count, initiate faster movements, make the controls more smooth (so clunky right now....you have to really press down on the controller to keep running sometimes. because it'll stop you), for 16v16, implement a game mode that'll force carnage. The new spawn system in ambush promotes both sides camping on opposite sides of the battlefield.

Even in tournament battles where you're behind on MCC armor and two letters are being held versus your one letter, DUST just lacks the sense of urgency that a single random game of MAG had :(

Don't take my post as bashing DUST, I just really want that sense of urgency back

Comparing a game that was out for years in final product to a game in beta for a year and which has only been in Open Beta for what? 2months? So thats 2 months of footage for people, how many amazing epic montages you expecting in 2 months? You realize people arnt allowed to use footage from before Open Beta.

Accepting mediocrity? We are in the same boat as you, we are waiting for the next new update, expect some people try to post real feedback not post a montage of an old game just say "That gameplay > DUST's".

Anyway, i know what your getting at Dubbs can easily tell your frustrated with the game and lack of new content etc etc just like 90% of the community. But this bringing out montages and using that to compare to DUST... lol. I could bring out some CS videos from the early 2000's that would prob make DUST look like crap lol.

If I knew a BF3 montage or something, I would post it....

Ther is no urgency because nothing is at stake

Urgency was only in MAG due to varying factors

Take the 'shadow war' it didnt really exist but you could rep your faction and take the contracts, roleplaying if you like, take the TTT weekend

In game, sabotage, C gets planted on a loud siren comes on basically, domination voice overs in game and stuff blowing up, acquistion when you lost your transport etc

Also in game, the players, the leaders in the game pushing you to do something and not be ******* useless


We are all waiting for PC and FW, why? because we know these will actually effect things in EVE and DUST, lose a district you lose your income and clones and the abaility to fight more which may harm your alliance

In game for DUST i would like it if sirens did go off, we had voice overs telling us to take that **** back, losers got no ISK payout and only loot and SP

Right now its only skirmish and nothing changes win lose or draw

Ther is no urgency because nothing is at stake

Urgency was only in MAG due to varying factors

Take the 'shadow war' it didnt really exist but you could rep your faction and take the contracts, roleplaying if you like, take the TTT weekend

In game, sabotage, C gets planted on a loud siren comes on basically, domination voice overs in game and stuff blowing up, acquistion when you lost your transport etc

Also in game, the players, the leaders in the game pushing you to do something and not be ******* useless


We are all waiting for PC and FW, why? because we know these will actually effect things in EVE and DUST, lose a district you lose your income and clones and the abaility to fight more which may harm your alliance

In game for DUST i would like it if sirens did go off, we had voice overs telling us to take that **** back, losers got no ISK payout and only loot and SP

Right now its only skirmish and nothing changes win lose or draw

But you're talking about rpg and meta game. That part is already good...which is why we are all still here. But the gameplay itself needs improvement.

This is what carnage is....for many of my fellow ex-MAG players, you may have seen this already. But this video is to show the CCP devs and anyone else who feels that Dust gameplay is fine as it is


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kk_paP56HcM

It's hard trying to recapture these moments in Dust

Damn, now I really want to play MAG. And hard? No, it's impossible to have memorable moments in DUST514...geez whiz guys, remember that time we lost because half our team was AFK in the MCC, or remember that time my random teammate ran me over with his LAV because we can't group up together as a corp?

This is the first time I've ever actually seen MAG gameplay. Looks like more circle strafing, bunny hopping, crap. It's the exact kind of thing I wish DUST had less of, not more.

I have a few memorable moments. Accidentally running into a group of 5 enemies on skirmish, completely alone, whacking out the SMG and killing two of them before running away with a sliver of armor left. Ahhh, fun times. Or blowing up an LAV coming at me with an AV grenade, then dodging out of the way. Just.

Yeah I think ydubbs set a very bad tone for this thread with that godawful pre 2.0 knife spree montage :D

I have a few memorable moments. Accidentally running into a group of 5 enemies on skirmish, completely alone, whacking out the SMG and killing two of them before running away with a sliver of armor left. Ahhh, fun times. Or blowing up an LAV coming at me with an AV grenade, then dodging out of the way. Just.

Mag looks like something i don't really miss, 2 bullets anywhere on the body and the opponent is dead, welp... almost like COD on hardcore, all i see is allot of knifing, spraying & pre-firing vs nublets, the aiming in that game seems like its not even needed.

There is 0 teamwork possibilities involved, nor if you get shot in the back do you have a chance to react, that movie is just a rag tag adding on all his killstreaks he ever got it seems minus all his own deaths.

Mag already excists, if you like it that much more, go back to it, Dust does not need to become like every FPS has become.

Play MAG and see if aiming doesn't matter. 0 teamwork? Unable to react? You have no idea what you're talking about. None!

People are lookimg at the knifing but ignorkng the smg highlights, the shotgun hjghlights, the sniper, the pistol, lmg highligjts...all are sick