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Nguruthos IX
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
137
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Posted - 2013.03.21 21:06:00 -
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(active fuel injectors)
post-nerf is anyone still using these things? Have you found it to be useful at all? If so, how ?
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WyrmHero1945
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
59
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Posted - 2013.03.21 21:33:00 -
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I don't use it simply because it's has way too much equipload. I believe a hardener is more useful, at least for a Myron. I assume afterburner is good for the gallente dropshio because of armor plates. |
Chad2k95
D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.03.21 21:38:00 -
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I use it to get on high buildings but it's not the same i like and hate the change i like it because it doesn't shoots you straight up in the air and hate it because it doesn't do it |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
761
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Posted - 2013.03.21 21:38:00 -
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I still have it because I find that with a grim, any extra speed helps me to get out of danger, no matter how slow that is |
Skihids
The Tritan Industries
1061
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Posted - 2013.03.21 21:48:00 -
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I'm still using on my Myron at the moment because it can get you out of range of the SL a bit faster do you don't need to tank as many.
I haven't done much flying since the nerf though, so I may end up favoring an extra shield extender or possibly another shield booster. The latter would be a good experiment to run. |
Foxhound Elite
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
41
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Posted - 2013.03.21 22:32:00 -
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No. They're not nearly the same. If you're a Myron pilot, I suggest two shield extenders, a booster and a passive shield resistance module ... > three shield extender and a booster. |
EternalRMG
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
242
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Posted - 2013.03.21 23:00:00 -
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NERF?? WHAT NERF??? |
Nguruthos IX
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
137
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Posted - 2013.03.21 23:28:00 -
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EternalRMG wrote:NERF?? WHAT NERF???
Where have you been?
CCP smacked the nerf hammer hard on AB's to bring those bloody OP drop-ships back in line |
EternalRMG
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
242
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Posted - 2013.03.21 23:32:00 -
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OP???
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DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
2110
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Posted - 2013.03.21 23:32:00 -
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I haven't used them once this build, personally; too heavy on the CPU for my taste. Plus, I fly Gallente, so I prefer a nice solid tank over fairy flight any day Real bummer for the rest of you though |
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Nguruthos IX
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
137
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Posted - 2013.03.21 23:36:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:I haven't used them once this build, personally; too heavy on the CPU for my taste. Plus, I fly Gallente, so I prefer a nice solid tank over fairy flight any day Real bummer for the rest of you though
I used to use it with a gallente. It I liked it. |
Skihids
The Tritan Industries
1062
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Posted - 2013.03.22 01:40:00 -
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Foxhound Elite wrote:No. They're not nearly the same. If you're a Myron pilot, I suggest two shield extenders, a booster and a passive shield resistance module ... > three shield extender and a booster.
If you want deep tank, go with three extenders and one booster. The resists don't give you as much as an additional extender will. They don't make sense unless you are short on PG early in the game.
The extender gives you 742 HP. To match that number with a 15% resist you would have to be at 742 / 0.15 = 4,946 shield points which is impossible to do with three slots on a dropship.
Trading an extender for a second booster might let you sit and tank a single militia SL. It's something to experiment with. |
Nguruthos IX
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
137
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Posted - 2013.03.22 02:32:00 -
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Skihids wrote:Foxhound Elite wrote:No. They're not nearly the same. If you're a Myron pilot, I suggest two shield extenders, a booster and a passive shield resistance module ... > three shield extender and a booster. If you want deep tank, go with three extenders and one booster. The resists don't give you as much as an additional extender will. They don't make sense unless you are short on PG early in the game. The extender gives you 742 HP. To match that number with a 15% resist you would have to be at 742 / 0.15 = 4,946 shield points which is impossible to do with three slots on a dropship. Trading an extender for a second booster might let you sit and tank a single militia SL. It's something to experiment with.
how is anyone able to fly shields for more than 2 minutes without getting forge gunned to death? The most defensively built shield ship I can come up with is just target practice. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
763
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Posted - 2013.03.22 02:54:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:Skihids wrote:Foxhound Elite wrote:No. They're not nearly the same. If you're a Myron pilot, I suggest two shield extenders, a booster and a passive shield resistance module ... > three shield extender and a booster. If you want deep tank, go with three extenders and one booster. The resists don't give you as much as an additional extender will. They don't make sense unless you are short on PG early in the game. The extender gives you 742 HP. To match that number with a 15% resist you would have to be at 742 / 0.15 = 4,946 shield points which is impossible to do with three slots on a dropship. Trading an extender for a second booster might let you sit and tank a single militia SL. It's something to experiment with. how is anyone able to fly shields for more than 2 minutes without getting forge gunned to death? The most defensively built shield ship I can come up with is just target practice. dual reppers works well but you still can't tank forge guns, swarms on the other hand are a different matter, my only dropship loss today took 4 people spamming swarms at me to kill me, i must have taken 8 separate volleys before i went into Armour burn and i still had 2 pulse to go on the cycles, then the ninth hit home and took me into hull and i started to fall. The annoying thing is if this had happened before the patch i'd only have been hit by around 6 swarms |
Nguruthos IX
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
137
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Posted - 2013.03.22 03:00:00 -
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gbghg wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:Skihids wrote:Foxhound Elite wrote:No. They're not nearly the same. If you're a Myron pilot, I suggest two shield extenders, a booster and a passive shield resistance module ... > three shield extender and a booster. If you want deep tank, go with three extenders and one booster. The resists don't give you as much as an additional extender will. They don't make sense unless you are short on PG early in the game. The extender gives you 742 HP. To match that number with a 15% resist you would have to be at 742 / 0.15 = 4,946 shield points which is impossible to do with three slots on a dropship. Trading an extender for a second booster might let you sit and tank a single militia SL. It's something to experiment with. how is anyone able to fly shields for more than 2 minutes without getting forge gunned to death? The most defensively built shield ship I can come up with is just target practice. dual reppers works well but you still can't tank forge guns, swarms on the other hand are a different matter, my only dropship loss today took 4 people spamming swarms at me to kill me, i must have taken 8 separate volleys before i went into Armour burn and i still had 2 pulse to go on the cycles, then the ninth hit home and took me into hull and i started to fall. The annoying thing is if this had happened before the patch i'd only have been hit by around 6 swarms
Do you often run them at the same time or alternate? |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
763
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Posted - 2013.03.22 03:14:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:gbghg wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:Skihids wrote:Foxhound Elite wrote:No. They're not nearly the same. If you're a Myron pilot, I suggest two shield extenders, a booster and a passive shield resistance module ... > three shield extender and a booster. If you want deep tank, go with three extenders and one booster. The resists don't give you as much as an additional extender will. They don't make sense unless you are short on PG early in the game. The extender gives you 742 HP. To match that number with a 15% resist you would have to be at 742 / 0.15 = 4,946 shield points which is impossible to do with three slots on a dropship. Trading an extender for a second booster might let you sit and tank a single militia SL. It's something to experiment with. how is anyone able to fly shields for more than 2 minutes without getting forge gunned to death? The most defensively built shield ship I can come up with is just target practice. dual reppers works well but you still can't tank forge guns, swarms on the other hand are a different matter, my only dropship loss today took 4 people spamming swarms at me to kill me, i must have taken 8 separate volleys before i went into Armour burn and i still had 2 pulse to go on the cycles, then the ninth hit home and took me into hull and i started to fall. The annoying thing is if this had happened before the patch i'd only have been hit by around 6 swarms Do you often run them at the same time or alternate? same time normaly, if i'm getting that much AV thrown at me the extra armour per pulse is quite literally a lifesaver, has lead to some tricky situations where i'm in armour burn and both my reppers are halfway through their cooldown, you do sacrifice quite a bit of tank for the second repper though but it's worth it in my opinion |
Nguruthos IX
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
137
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Posted - 2013.03.22 03:49:00 -
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Do you often run them at the same time or alternate?[/quote] same time normaly, if i'm getting that much AV thrown at me the extra armour per pulse is quite literally a lifesaver, has lead to some tricky situations where i'm in armour burn and both my reppers are halfway through their cooldown, you do sacrifice quite a bit of tank for the second repper though but it's worth it in my opinion[/quote]
Do you keep an armor rep on it too?
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gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
764
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Posted - 2013.03.22 04:02:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:
Do you often run them at the same time or alternate?
same time normaly, if i'm getting that much AV thrown at me the extra armour per pulse is quite literally a lifesaver, has lead to some tricky situations where i'm in armour burn and both my reppers are halfway through their cooldown, you do sacrifice quite a bit of tank for the second repper though but it's worth it in my opinion[/quote]
Do you keep an armor rep on it too? [/quote] ah i was talking about armour reppers not boosters, i use grim's right now, but to reverse your point and apply it to shields i don't use a shield repper, don't have the slot or the pg for it |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
598
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Posted - 2013.03.22 04:08:00 -
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I go with my "Mad flying, flying Mad" fit where I use two armor reps on the gallente standard and two hardeners. I've yet to be alpha'd into submission but I've been shot down plenty
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gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
764
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Posted - 2013.03.22 04:14:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:I go with my "Mad flying, flying Mad" fit where I use two armor reps on the gallente standard and two hardeners. I've yet to be alpha'd into submission but I've been shot down plenty
Also, that was practice with a militia one, now that I have a standard I'll be quite a bit more resilient two hardners? wouldn't a 60mm plate give you a higher ehp? the added resistance from a hardener from base armour isn't that much |
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Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
598
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Posted - 2013.03.22 04:18:00 -
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I don't need ehp, I need to neglect the kinetic damage hitting my armor as much as possible |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
764
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Posted - 2013.03.22 04:36:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:I don't need ehp, I need to neglect the kinetic damage hitting my armor as much as possible hmm i might try this out just to see what it's like. |
Ghural
The Southern Legion
65
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Posted - 2013.03.22 04:48:00 -
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I like to put afterburners on my tanks.
You don't get any speed boost, but you do get that warp effect.
And that makes it cool. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
764
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Posted - 2013.03.22 04:51:00 -
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Ghural wrote:I like to put afterburners on my tanks.
You don't get any speed boost, but you do get that warp effect.
And that makes it cool. funny most of us ds pilots hate that warp effect, it looks cheesy and gives the impression that we're going much faster than we actually are |
Nguruthos IX
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
138
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Posted - 2013.03.22 04:52:00 -
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gbghg wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:I don't need ehp, I need to neglect the kinetic damage hitting my armor as much as possible hmm i might try this out just to see what it's like.
I guess I just gave out one of my well kept secrets :P
But I was this whole time I thought you were talking about how you shield tank. I had asked how anyone can live in those things. Thought you had 2 shield reps |
Nguruthos IX
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
138
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Posted - 2013.03.22 04:52:00 -
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gbghg wrote:Ghural wrote:I like to put afterburners on my tanks.
You don't get any speed boost, but you do get that warp effect.
And that makes it cool. funny most of us ds pilots hate that warp effect, it looks cheesy and gives the impression that we're going much faster than we actually are
it was alright before. Now it's just insulting. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
764
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Posted - 2013.03.22 04:54:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:gbghg wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:I don't need ehp, I need to neglect the kinetic damage hitting my armor as much as possible hmm i might try this out just to see what it's like. I guess I just gave out one of my well kept secrets :P But I was this whole time I thought you were talking about how you shield tank. I had asked how anyone can live in those things. Thought you had 2 shield reps sorry i should have clarified it in my op |
Baal Roo
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
974
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Posted - 2013.03.22 08:22:00 -
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Nope, they are worthless now. |
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