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          Gunner Needed 
          The Southern Legion
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        Posted - 2013.03.16 02:54:00 -
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          Did it get broken with the hotfix or has it been Nerfed hard? Either way you owe me 500k.....didnt make it over a mountain I should have   | 
      
      
      
          
          gbghg 
          L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
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        Posted - 2013.03.16 03:09:00 -
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          Yeah something seemed off with them today, normally you get a noticeable boost in pulses but today i just got the effect and one long continuous increase. | 
      
      
      
          
          Gunner Needed 
          The Southern Legion
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        Posted - 2013.03.16 03:28:00 -
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          yea seems to be at around 20% its usual boost | 
      
      
      
          
          noob 45 
          Syndicate of Gods
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        Posted - 2013.03.16 03:41:00 -
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          I am pretty sure they super nerfed the afterburners and Powerplants. Jovian says it only gives a 17.6% boost in torque but I could of swore it said 25% before today. | 
      
      
      
          
          copy left 
          BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire
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        Posted - 2013.03.16 04:03:00 -
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          They nerfed em making them useless against swarms | 
      
      
      
          
          Nguruthos IX 
          Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
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        Posted - 2013.03.16 04:26:00 -
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          copy left wrote:They nerfed em making them useless against swarms  
  LOL
  I'd made some half jokes about the next patch would probably nerf dropships because (who knows??) Well, that's it.
  Here's the prediction they'll do it again next time too. Jesus what's with all the ds hate. | 
      
      
      
          
          Iskandar Zul Karnain 
          Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
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        Posted - 2013.03.16 04:52:00 -
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          Kreayshawn Coruscanti 
          Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
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        Posted - 2013.03.16 05:03:00 -
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          Sad days :( | 
      
      
      
          
          The dark cloud 
          Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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        Posted - 2013.03.16 11:41:00 -
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          Seriously after i tried it out today i have to say the dropship has become now a flying pinata which is easy to shot down. Well done CCP dropships are now 100% useless. I could live with it when it would only take something like 60PG but not over 140! I think we need cloaking for dropships cause their survivability dropped from 50% to 0% now. | 
      
      
      
          
          Jakar Umbra 
          Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
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        Posted - 2013.03.16 11:49:00 -
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          And now dropships with fuel injectors have roughly the same survivability rate as those without fuel injectors. Fuel Injectors used to make flying dropships fun, now it's a mess. What's worse is they also nerfed the Jovian fusion powerplant.
  I remember seeing alot of complaints about the dropships not being able to accrue points, and people offering some good suggestions for it, but I didn't see anything about asking for a nerf. Hell "nerf" doesn't even describe it, I think "castrated" describes it better. | 
      
      
      
          
          Delirium Inferno 
          Chernova Industries
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        Posted - 2013.03.16 11:54:00 -
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          I sort of agree with CCP that the active fuel injector was a bit too much. It was a "get out of jail free" card in every practical sense. This is coming from someone who has both used them and tried destroying pilots with them. I do believe CCP over corrected the problem, but that's usually how fixes are made. No doubt they'll find a happy medium.
  Also I have two dropship builds, one with the active fuel injector and one that replaces that with a CRU. It is still possible and relatively easy to survive without one, I wouldn't say they are worthless. | 
      
      
      
          
          KalOfTheRathi 
          CowTek
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        Posted - 2013.03.16 11:58:00 -
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          Skull Kittened describes it very well.
  Either CCP/Shanghai did it on purpose or this was yet another horrible side effect of the Black Screen Hot Fix. Maybe they have no idea how this happened and it is a mystery, like so many other decisions from those that wield the Wang Nerf Hammer Of Doom.
  I hate buying a Merc Pack. Every single time I convince myself to support this game they prove that is the last thing I should be doing. They consistently try to destroy the very reasons I enjoy the game or delay beyond all reason the functionality they hyped to get me involved in the first place. | 
      
      
      
          
          Gusk Hevv 
          Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
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        Posted - 2013.03.16 11:59:00 -
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          Why CCP why? Why do you have to destroy every fun aspect of the game and leave the important ones for players to handle? What did you even want from the Jovian Powerplants? | 
      
      
      
          
          Stefan Stahl 
          Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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        Posted - 2013.03.16 13:30:00 -
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          This needs tweaking. Not a lot, but it doesn't work well right now.
  I'd suggest leaving the magnitude of the afterburner effect as it is right now but applying it for the whole duration of the module. That'd give us a continuous speed boost instead of whirling dropships about randomly.
  ... My pet-peeve is still the fact that railguns, rail-installations especially, are the best anti-air weapon in the game. This is a much more pressing issue to me. | 
      
      
      
          
          Knight SoIaire 
          Better Hide R Die
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        Posted - 2013.03.16 13:52:00 -
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          They need to reduce collision damage anyway.
  One slight nick of an object when flying a dropship could lead to it immediately going on fire.
  Not as bad as it was when we had free MLT dropships though.
  Remember the dropship roadkilling?  
  EDIT: Its funny, all this editing to vehicle modules and they haven't even touched the damage mods. Why CCP? Why? | 
      
      
      
          
          Moochie Cricket 
          SyNergy Gaming
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        Posted - 2013.03.16 13:58:00 -
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          This is horseshit | 
      
      
      
          
          Stefan Stahl 
          Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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          Knight SoIaire wrote:Remember the dropship roadkilling?    This is still a viable tactic.   | 
      
      
      
          
          Kreayshawn Coruscanti 
          Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
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        Posted - 2013.03.16 14:09:00 -
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          Afterburners are now 100% worthless and 100% not fun. Thanks for that | 
      
      
      
          
          Nguruthos IX 
          Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
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        Posted - 2013.03.16 15:43:00 -
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          Delirium Inferno wrote:I sort of agree with CCP that the active fuel injector was a bit too much. It was a "get out of jail free" card in every practical sense. This is coming from someone who has both used them and tried destroying pilots with them. I do believe CCP over corrected the problem, but that's usually how fixes are made. No doubt they'll find a happy medium.
  Also I have two dropship builds, one with the active fuel injector and one that replaces that with a CRU. It is still possible and relatively easy to survive without one, I wouldn't say they are worthless.  
  It was the ONLY way to hope to dodge those (ridiculously easy to kittening aim) Forge guns, which by the way take out 90-100% of any ship. 
  All I can say is... wtf?????????????? | 
      
      
      
          
          Moochie Cricket 
          SyNergy Gaming
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        Posted - 2013.03.16 17:25:00 -
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          Bumped because this is infuriating. Im not even going to waste my time offering suggestions because ccp is obviously not listening to any of our feedback regarding dropships. | 
      
      
      
          
          Gunner Needed 
          The Southern Legion
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        Posted - 2013.03.16 21:18:00 -
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          Aaaargh! so it was a Nerf. I honestly wouldn't mind if it was dropped to 50%, so you could actually boost where you want to and not get stuck in the roof for 10 seconds, but now its pretty much unnoticeable. Also a warning would have been nice so I didnt crash and burn and look like an idiot flying into a mountain. | 
      
      
      
          
          KalOfTheRathi 
          CowTek
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        Posted - 2013.03.16 21:23:00 -
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          Gunner Needed wrote:Did it get broken with the hotfix or has it been Nerfed hard? -- snip QQ --  Does anybody know if the After Burner was Un-Kittened when the Black Screen Hot Fix was Rolled Back, Over, Sideways or Down? | 
      
      
      
          
          Nguruthos IX 
          Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
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        Posted - 2013.03.16 21:26:00 -
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          The burner was the one thing that made flying feel exciting and skillful.  Now its a slow, dull, useless, helpless AV magnet.  I really loved being able to maneuver like an ace at deadly speeds and make my gunners hair stand on ends when I went around buildings and hills. Now this thing is about as exciting as calling in a free LAV and getting it blown to smithereens moments later.
  Except much more expensive (SP/ISK) and much more useless
  I guess there's always fighter jets... in a couple years? But as a dedicated pilot Dust doesn't look like it's interested in keeping me or others like me around between then and now. | 
      
      
      
          
          Sobriety Denied 
          Universal Allies Inc.
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        Posted - 2013.03.16 21:53:00 -
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          The dark cloud wrote:Seriously after i tried it out today i have to say the dropship has become now a flying pinata which is easy to shot down. Well done CCP dropships are now 100% useless. I could live with it when it would only take something like 60PG but not over 140! I think we need cloaking for dropships cause their survivability dropped from 50% to 0% now.  
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          Sobriety Denied 
          Universal Allies Inc.
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        Posted - 2013.03.16 21:58:00 -
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          Gunner Needed wrote:Aaaargh! so it was a Nerf. I honestly wouldn't mind if it was dropped to 50%, so you could actually boost where you want to and not get stuck in the roof for 10 seconds, but now its pretty much unnoticeable. Also a warning would have been nice so I didnt crash and burn and look like an idiot flying into a mountain.    i flew into a building because i was expecting a cycle to kick in......
 
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          Skihids 
          The Tritan Industries
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        Posted - 2013.03.17 00:06:00 -
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          WTF???
  What the hell happened? I was actually enjoying flying last night for the first time in a while, and I read here that CCP has ****** it up yet again?
  Did CCP discover I had one ship last to the end of the match and decide that was too much? | 
      
      
      
          
          Sobriety Denied 
          Universal Allies Inc.
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        Posted - 2013.03.17 01:00:00 -
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          Skihids wrote:WTF???
  What the hell happened? I was actually enjoying flying last night for the first time in a while, and I read here that CCP has ****** it up yet again?
  Did CCP discover I had one ship last to the end of the match and decide that was too much?  
  ya SK... more of this to pilots from yours truly, CCP.
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          DUST Fiend 
          Immobile Infantry
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        Posted - 2013.03.17 01:03:00 -
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          Thankfully I fly dropships like a man, and never needed to use Afterburners   | 
      
      
      
          
          Sobriety Denied 
          Universal Allies Inc.
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        Posted - 2013.03.17 01:07:00 -
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          DUST Fiend wrote:Thankfully I fly dropships like a man, and never needed to use Afterburners     never even seen yours  | 
      
      
      
          
          Nguruthos IX 
          Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
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        Posted - 2013.03.17 01:20:00 -
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          Sobriety Denied wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Thankfully I fly dropships like a man, and never needed to use Afterburners    never even seen yours   
  I'll leave you to speculate why that may be | 
      
      
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