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lDocHollidayl
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.03.15 18:18:00 -
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This topic may be a slight act in redundancy.
Just a simple new mode...Capture the flag...king of the hill...hide the Quafe scout...last man standing Free for all.
There are new games coming on the market and two issues arise. 1. Veterans are tired of the game play...bored...AFK and watching anything is more fun. 2. noobs get pounded in pub matches unless taken under the wing of vets.
Both groups will easily migrate to a new game. Especially if they are not financially committed to the game.."Well it was free, not like I have to play to justify my $60".
The new FW will not solve problem #2. CCP entertain us...I used to play for fun...now it is to chat with squad members and grind. I beg you to hurry. It doesn't have to make any sense in Eve universe just fun. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
452
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Posted - 2013.03.15 18:22:00 -
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I'm not saying make a halo clone... but even Halo 2 had far more variety. Juggernaut, King of the hill, Capture the Flag, anything! |
Furrow33
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.03.15 18:41:00 -
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Most of those ideas sound dumb to me. Id go for some drone killing though. |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
2055
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Posted - 2013.03.15 18:47:00 -
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lDocHollidayl wrote:I used to play for fun...now it is to chat with squad members and grind. .
Quoted for the god damn truth, Deja Vu 514 is getting old |
martinofski
Rebelles A Quebec
32
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Posted - 2013.03.15 18:51:00 -
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since last week, I ask myself: Do I play for fun or because I don't want to get to much behind when the update come in.
I think and understand I do it to grind only.
what will be the next update : FW and more Skirmish.
Will I play for fun or because I still need to grind more isk/SP to be able to conquer stuff in skirmish.
Oh well
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ImperfectFan514
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.03.15 18:51:00 -
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Furrow33 wrote:Most of those ideas sound dumb to me. Id go for some drone killing though.
You're a PVE carebear most of us are here for PVP. |
martinofski
Rebelles A Quebec
32
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Posted - 2013.03.15 19:00:00 -
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what kill me is the redundancy.
Playing ambush over and over and over than do a skirmish to change mood. Let's do a corp battle then. O well I just waited about 20 minute to do a skirmish without player rewards, screw this I'll make some quick ambush...even better, I'll AFK while cleaning my bike for the summer...
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semperfi1999
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
367
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Posted - 2013.03.15 19:03:00 -
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Capture the flag could be excused as training simulators with real clone deaths to show true battle situations.
Or just make it a mode where the flag is data you have to capture and take back to your base but you only have storage room for 1/3rd of the total data so you have to obtain all 3 parts to win. |
TheMarkOf22
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
70
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Posted - 2013.03.15 19:04:00 -
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why do all mmo shooters have such garbage game modes? enough capturing abc points its boring
SOCOM game modes> all |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
2055
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Posted - 2013.03.15 19:06:00 -
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ImperfectFan514 wrote:Furrow33 wrote:Most of those ideas sound dumb to me. Id go for some drone killing though. You're a PVE carebear most of us are here for PVP.
Hey, don't you freaking dare discount drones.
There HAS to be a PvPvE Drone mode, where there are neutral, hackable drones, and just totally wild rogue drones that boss through anything in their path. It would add a completely new dynamic to the game and would be god damn insane, having to fight through a horde of defensive drones and enemy forces to hack their drone construction unit, holding off drones as they roll off the assembly line, doing your best to buy time for your allies because you know, if they finish that hack, your enemies are going to be in a world of hurt.
Watch out for those rogue drones though, or clever scouts who drag a few drones after them, only to charge you with a suicide grenade, taking out your shields as drones position to engage.
**** yea. I'll play that every god damn day. |
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Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
452
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Posted - 2013.03.15 19:08:00 -
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semperfi1999 wrote:Capture the flag could be excused as training simulators with real clone deaths to show true battle situations.
Or just make it a mode where the flag is data you have to capture and take back to your base but you only have storage room for 1/3rd of the total data so you have to obtain all 3 parts to win. Do modes really need an excuse? lol
The only games I can think of that have a reason for it's multiplier modes are the ones in the Assassins Creed series. You don't see Tekken trying to justify time attack mode lol. Separate modes are just for fun, they don't have to have a reason or even make sense, they just have to be fun. |
Delirium Inferno
Chernova Industries
73
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Posted - 2013.03.15 19:13:00 -
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I want a twist on Skirmish to make it similar to Warhawk's Zones mode. Each null cannon can be hacked to level 1, 2, or 3. The higher level the cannon is hacked to, the more damage it does. The twist is that each base also has a radius around it, and you cannot overlap with an enemy radius. So you may have your cannon hacked to level 2 but it is being blocked from being hacked to level 3 by a nearby enemy cannon, so you must go over there and lower the enemy cannons level so you can expand yours.
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Sloth9230 wrote:semperfi1999 wrote:Capture the flag could be excused as training simulators with real clone deaths to show true battle situations.
Or just make it a mode where the flag is data you have to capture and take back to your base but you only have storage room for 1/3rd of the total data so you have to obtain all 3 parts to win. Do modes really need an excuse? lol The only games I can think of that have a reason for it's multiplier modes are the ones in the Assassins Creed series. You don't see Tekken trying to justify time attack mode lol. Separate modes are just for fun, they don't have to have a reason or even make sense, they just have to be fun. No, but in a game like Dust it sort of does need an excuse. If this was a straight up arcade game not trying to be part of a large consistent universe then that'd be fine.
That said, CCP already mentioned they have an excuse to add game modes like CTF and Free For All. It will be like gladiator arenas. Pure sport and Dust and EVE players can spectate and bet on the outcome. |
lDocHollidayl
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
174
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Posted - 2013.03.15 22:46:00 -
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TheMarkOf22 wrote:why do all mmo shooters have such garbage game modes? enough capturing abc points its boring
SOCOM game modes> all
This is true as the Bible. Could you imagine a version of hostage defend/rescue...ah...orgasm. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
3179
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Posted - 2013.03.15 23:07:00 -
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I want this game mode: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=730
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:This idea is inspired by the recent reveals regarding planetary conquest, and this image ( click it). Since planetary conquest will be based on eliminating enemy clone supply from a contested district, it would make sense to have a game mode centered around taking the supply of clones away from the defenders. This mode wouldn't just be limited to planetary conquest (I would like to see them in NPC battles as well), but it makes sense for planetary conquest. Here is the idea for the game mode: Clone capture: The attacking team starts with however amount of clones they bring to the district when in planetary conquest. When in a NPC-contracted battle, the attackers will have 100 clones.
The defending team has however many clones they have on the district. When in a NPC-contracted battle, defenders will have 100 clones.
Attacking team must get past the the initial defenses which include turret installations supply depots, and CRUs. All these defenses are controlled by the defense relays (making defense relays the 1st objectives).
Once the initial defenses are gone, the objective then becomes to hack a control center inside an outpost to open a hatch on the top of the outpost so the RDVs have access to the stored clone reserves. The defenders can capture the outpost again to shut the hatch.
When the outpost hatch is open, the attacker's RDVs will fly to there, and capture crates of clones; each crate could be 25 clones (or some other number).
The victory condition for both teams is the depletion of the other's clone reserves, but basically the attackers get the option of stealing clones from the defenders to gain an advantage.
Clone crates stolen in planetary conquest will yield ISK equal to the biomass of the contained clones for the attackers if the attackers are successful. If the defenders win, then the clones stolen will return back to the defender's district.
Thank you for reading.
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IMPAIRS YOUR ABILITY
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.03.15 23:10:00 -
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lDocHollidayl wrote:TheMarkOf22 wrote:why do all mmo shooters have such garbage game modes? enough capturing abc points its boring
SOCOM game modes> all This is true as the Bible. Could you imagine a version of hostage defend/rescue...ah...orgasm.
I would enjoy an all indoor/cqc mode like Frostfire in a biomass facility. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax. CRONOS.
3109
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Posted - 2013.03.15 23:14:00 -
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Problem with most of the new possible modes is that they're not lore set.
Why capture the flag? Nuke it from orbit if it was that amarr damned important.
So you're going have to lore fit Most of these modes. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
3179
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Posted - 2013.03.15 23:22:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Problem with most of the new possible modes is that they're not lore set.
Why capture the flag? Nuke it from orbit if it was that amarr damned important.
So you're going have to lore fit Most of these modes. I would like for you to post some game mode ideas on the feedback/requests section, you're quite well informed, and should know what will fit lore. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax. CRONOS.
3109
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Posted - 2013.03.15 23:27:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Problem with most of the new possible modes is that they're not lore set.
Why capture the flag? Nuke it from orbit if it was that amarr damned important.
So you're going have to lore fit Most of these modes. I would like for you to post some game mode ideas on the feedback/requests section, you're quite well informed, and should know what will fit lore.
I would but I haven't played these game modes yet in my head fully. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
3179
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Posted - 2013.03.15 23:56:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Problem with most of the new possible modes is that they're not lore set.
Why capture the flag? Nuke it from orbit if it was that amarr damned important.
So you're going have to lore fit Most of these modes. I would like for you to post some game mode ideas on the feedback/requests section, you're quite well informed, and should know what will fit lore. I would but I haven't played these game modes yet in my head fully. What are your thoughts on my game mode proposal? |
Mordecai Snake
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
0
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Posted - 2013.03.16 00:06:00 -
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I want the King of the Hill style skirmish that was in the black eagle event. |
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HowDidThatTaste
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.03.16 00:35:00 -
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Yes any new mode would be great! Sorry iron wolf who gives a crap about lore make it up later. |
Cyn Bruin
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
717
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Posted - 2013.03.16 00:37:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Problem with most of the new possible modes is that they're not lore set.
Why capture the flag? Nuke it from orbit if it was that amarr damned important.
So you're going have to lore fit Most of these modes.
You don't have to fit a damn thing to lore. Different game modes wouldnt impact EVE lore at all.
Here's how to cicumvent...
They are all training excercises... problem solved.
Lets move onto something that has substance.
Been a year CCP, 2 game modes, 4 maps... improve or become irrelevant.
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TheMarkOf22
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.03.16 00:57:00 -
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lDocHollidayl wrote:TheMarkOf22 wrote:why do all mmo shooters have such garbage game modes? enough capturing abc points its boring
SOCOM game modes> all This is true as the Bible. Could you imagine a version of hostage defend/rescue...ah...orgasm.
would love it, they got the map set up for breach too |
TheMarkOf22
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.03.16 01:02:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Problem with most of the new possible modes is that they're not lore set.
Why capture the flag? Nuke it from orbit if it was that amarr damned important.
So you're going have to lore fit Most of these modes.
how about the gayar snipacus has a plasma dildo refinery and their ability to mass produce these plasma dildos puts the galaxy in jepoardy and must be destroyed via bomb plant.
Or
Goonswarm is holding the King and Queen of Caldri hostage and we must infiltrate their base and eliminate hostiles them and escort them back to safety
Lore is easy, I could write it in my sleep... |
Draxus Prime
BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.03.16 01:15:00 -
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semperfi1999 wrote:Capture the flag could be excused as training simulators with real clone deaths to show true battle situations.
Or just make it a mode where the flag is data you have to capture and take back to your base but you only have storage room for 1/3rd of the total data so you have to obtain all 3 parts to win. ctf and ffa confimed for gladiator arena (esports) where eve and dust ppl can watch and bet on |
HowDidThatTaste
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
2317
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Posted - 2013.03.16 07:35:00 -
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Something's
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KripnawtiQ Prime
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.03.16 09:41:00 -
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Not just game modes. Content in general. Weapons, vehicles, maps, terrain...anything to freshen up the game. Game has essentially remained unchanged since Codex. Not sure how many months that is but its a long time. |
Tectonious Falcon
The Southern Legion
429
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Posted - 2013.03.16 09:44:00 -
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If they added in a racial variant for everything in the game, it would add another 6 months of fun at least in my opinion. |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
2062
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Posted - 2013.03.16 09:46:00 -
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TheMarkOf22 wrote:Goonswarm is holding the King and Queen of Caldri hostage and we must infiltrate their base and eliminate hostiles them and escort them back to safety
::slowly puts down duct tape:: |
Draxus Prime
BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.03.16 13:44:00 -
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KripnawtiQ Prime wrote:Not just game modes. Content in general. Weapons, vehicles, maps, terrain...anything to freshen up the game. Game has essentially remained unchanged since Codex. Not sure how many months that is but its a long time. chromosone is a tech build. they moved us to TQ and opening up the beta to test the server strain. next build will focus more on gameplay, features and graphics to appeal to the new crowd. Just to hype you up next build will look graphics wise more colourful and they're adding vegetation. yes soon we can feel bad ass weaving around trees in a lav |
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shellhead
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
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Posted - 2013.03.16 17:46:00 -
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I'd love to see something like a Bomb Delivery mode added.
There would be an NPC tank that cant fire that will travel along a set path on the map. One team has to protect it and the other team has to try to destroy it. It'll be played best two out of three. |
SickJ
French unchained corporation
49
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Posted - 2013.03.16 18:08:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Problem with most of the new possible modes is that they're not lore set.
Why capture the flag? Nuke it from orbit if it was that amarr damned important.
So you're going have to lore fit Most of these modes.
Hard to salvage sleeper tech after you've nuked it. |
Erich Arbosa
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.03.16 18:19:00 -
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I've already moved on to another game. I'll be back when we get a game mode that is more like RDR multiplayer with maps for each planet or maps for each district.
Free Roam, let me explore a planet, let me engage other mercs from surprise while they're engaging Dusts version of red X's. If I want to fight in an Ambush or Skirmish match, let me find a merc office on the planet/in the district and sign up for the battle.
CCP, let us use our boots to explore New Eden. I want to be able to grab one of my LAVs and drive west until I hit a coastline.
CCP, give us free roam, kitten all the of the other content for now, just give us free roam environments. |
lDocHollidayl
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
175
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Posted - 2013.03.16 18:29:00 -
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TheMarkOf22 wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Problem with most of the new possible modes is that they're not lore set.
Why capture the flag? Nuke it from orbit if it was that amarr damned important.
So you're going have to lore fit Most of these modes. how about the gayar snipacus has a plasma dildo refinery and their ability to mass produce these plasma dildos puts the galaxy in jepoardy and must be destroyed via bomb plant. Or Goonswarm is holding the King and Queen of Caldri hostage and we must infiltrate their base and eliminate hostiles them and escort them back to safety Lore is easy, I could write it in my sleep...
I laughed up and spit out my water reading this... Breach would be insane...I forgot about breach...of course vehicle SP would be wasted here...Socom was GOD for gun vs gun gameplay.
Guys lets not play musical chairs or the violin and the titanic sinks...grab a bucket and something to fix the hole
IE different game mode = fun = players = money = happy wife/girl= life worth living |
Fraceska
Opus Arcana Orion Empire
260
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Posted - 2013.03.16 18:30:00 -
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Cyn Bruin wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Problem with most of the new possible modes is that they're not lore set.
Why capture the flag? Nuke it from orbit if it was that amarr damned important.
So you're going have to lore fit Most of these modes. You don't have to fit a damn thing to lore. Different game modes wouldnt impact EVE lore at all. Here's how to circumvent... They are all training excercises... problem solved. Lets move onto something that has substance. Been a year CCP, 2 game modes, 4 maps... improve or become irrelevant.
I don't want to play Dust Infinity. |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
88
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Posted - 2013.03.16 18:40:00 -
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The problem is not that there isn't enough to do, its that most of the people that are getting bored play 24/7....
Even if they add a new map, or a game mode, its still the same "shoot em in the face till they stop moving" and even if they did add content, in another month its gonna be the same "its getting boring".
I started with Open beta, just got 10k+ kills and getting near my 5m sp, i also play Eve, finished aliens colonial marines (awfull craptastic game) and gonna do some Deadspace 3 this week besides dust 514.
Noone is saying you need to play this game till the parts fall off, you can easely combine 2 or 3 games, or gasp... play another game and come back in a month....it's still gonna be here...but ow ..theres the problem youll be behind in SP ..
If you are having issues now, you won't last the next 10 years as it gets as awsome as Eve... |
J'Jor Da'Wg
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
665
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Posted - 2013.03.16 18:44:00 -
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Why nkt just add some simple game modes that make lore sense? IE Planting a bomb and destroying prototype weaponry/vehicles/technology, overloading a skyfire battery and having it implode on it self... I can think of tons of things... |
Fraceska
Opus Arcana Orion Empire
260
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Posted - 2013.03.16 18:45:00 -
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Why wait for Dust when Defiance comes out April 2nd? |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
88
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Posted - 2013.03.16 19:13:00 -
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Fraceska wrote:Why wait for Dust when Defiance comes out April 2nd?
I liked Trion's Rift and killed all raid bosses and ill try Defiance, but its another Grass is Greener on the other side... Sadly trion doesnt know how end game content works and while they always added in raids at a very rapid pace, they were plagued by bugs, bugs and more bugs. Like raid mobs went invul at 20% health etc ...
Eventually all the veterans quit due to bugs...so unless they learned allot from Rift, Defiance is gonna be the same.. |
Fraceska
Opus Arcana Orion Empire
260
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Posted - 2013.03.16 19:17:00 -
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Well they do have a 300 million project with SyFy to produce the game and the show. Sooo here is to hoping that the game benefits from a larger budget and mistakes made from previous games.
Though what defines end game in something like Defiance that is always changing to keep pace with the show and in game developments? With a 5,000 level cap (which takes years to reach), your skill with weapons increase, your ego grid, and other special things you can unlock through play your end game is going to be vastly different than my end game. |
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Rei Shepard
Spectre II
88
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Posted - 2013.03.16 19:49:00 -
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Fraceska wrote:Well they do have a 300 million project with SyFy to produce the game and the show. Sooo here is to hoping that the game benefits from a larger budget and mistakes made from previous games.
Though what defines end game in something like Defiance that is always changing to keep pace with the show and in game developments? With a 5,000 level cap (which takes years to reach), your skill with weapons increase, your ego grid, and other special things you can unlock through play your end game is going to be vastly different than my end game.
sadly if its a shooter on PC, its gonna be plagued by aimbots & wallhacks, having played em all on PC, i finally came to a console to get rid of em and to get rid of 5-8 "yer hacking" pm's each evening.
But yeah i hope it suceeds, i loved Rift, but bugs and constant nerfs to my class were the dead of me there. (My Beta key for defiance is already registered :p) |
Fraceska
Opus Arcana Orion Empire
260
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Posted - 2013.03.16 20:15:00 -
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Well it is both good and bad that each of the systems will be on their own servers. And with all content being hosted by Trion I hope they can keep down on glitches and exploits. |
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