I admit it is an effective tactic.

However until winning or losing a match actually matters I will continue to discourage my corp and squad mates from doing it for the simple reason that it's not fun.

Killing someone while their screen[sic] is black is no challenge for me and it definitely isn't fun for the victim.

Wrong, this is exactly what they did. It is a valid part of Dust.

It is literally:
CRU has been hacked.
Red comes to attack.
Choice: take over, camp spawns.

Did not take a PhD in nuclear engineering to create that possible scenario tree...

CCP is smart enough to take your money, give them some credit

Technically, it is an exploit, but not of the game itself. It's an exploit of the dumb opponents that spawn in knowing there are people waiting to obliterate them. It's not like there is no counter for it. All you have to do is not spawn there...

I totally agree it is a valid tactic, CCP put it in...


My problem lies in the fact that with the new spawn system red dots get "stuck" into a no win situation unless there is a valid uplink to spawn on.

Regardless of what some may say, the new spawn system WILL spawn you next to your teammates on the CRU whether you choose it or not.

So if there is no other choice to spawn in with X or Square...

It's clearly an exploit, but just like every other exploit in this game the community will defend it as a smart tactic. And while it may indeed be a smart tactic since it's there and might as well take advantage of it, that doesn't change the fact that is also an exploit and should be on the list of things to fix.

I don't mind people doing it but it is very annoying when I hear some idiot say, "dun Hax de objecative yhu noob!" while two objectives are being taken.

If there's nothing else to do then go ahead but when objectives are being compromised, don't be that idiot.

actually from my experience i have never instantly died, this guy is exageratting, his connection is crap, or he takes to long too move after spawning. you hold down sprint while waiting to spawn in and immediately start bunny hopping most of the time you can kill the campers unless it's a heavy.. these whiners are going to ask for some crutch like a 5 second spawn immunity, they cried in all the battlefields for this same crutch, luckily they were denied it in that game every time they whined for it EA actually had a sack that time.

Can anyone honestly say that they like the new ambush better than the old one? Its not fun anymore at all...

It's Cheap period,you wouldnt want to be spawn camped yourself and dont give me that crap thats "it's legit,tactical,hur it's a challenge for me etc", id laugh in your face over the mic.

I cannot get spawn camped at the same point twice.
You are right I don't like being killed on spawn....so...I look.

Don't spawn into a camped point.

It

Doesn't

Take

A

Genius

how? You dont spawn and wait till someone puts a droplink somewhere?(hopefuly) if no other points are availaible the game just puts you at the CRU where everyone else is getting camped,it's a cycle you cant escape till the enemy hacks or destroys the CRU genius.

Can anyone honestly say that they like the new ambush better than the old one? Its not fun anymore at all...

1, There are only 2 maps in ambush OMS that have CRUs and those seem to have a reduced chance of being drawn (in 10 games tonight i only hit one once(obviously not a scientific study (lol)))
2, If you hit the square button you do not necessarily get tossed into the CRU area (if you do get tossed there it is usually because that is where many of your team have congregated. I tested it to make sure I wasn't talking out of my kitten.
3, While it is possible to spawn near the CRU on default spawning (a)it is unlikely (b)it is not where the CRU spawns, sure it is close but you aren't directly where the campers are aimed. (c) UNLIKELY, as in, it can happen but that isn't the way to bet.
4,I almost always carry uplinks for for my squad and if i see one is compromised I place a new one right away to kill the camped one. It is what you do if you are a good teammate. (I recognise that most people do not carry uplinks and this is not an option unless they are in a squad that has a guy who does)

I'm not trying to condescend or treat you like an ass, I just cannot see how this is difficult.

When you play a game and it lets you do "x" and the Devs after being made aware of "x" do not post that "x" is an exploit. "x" then is not only legal, it is part of the game. I do not expect you to follow my moral code, you have no right to demand anyone follow yours whatever it may be whatever country you may be from, however you have been raised.

Peace dude, not trying to get in your face.

Person spawns in and before he even gets control of his character he is dead. And do you honestly think CCP sat at the design table saying, "Ok, not let's make this so the enemy team can wait over here and kill the other team the moment they spawn!"

Do most of 4 work or Ambush regular and Ambush OMS?