DUST Search - Camping CRUs: Cheap or Smart?

Sobriety Denied wrote:

DS 10 wrote:

Delirium Inferno wrote:

Funk Volume wrote:

Mithridates V wrote:

It's not clear to me. Elaborate.

I second this vote for an elaboration.

Person spawns in and before he even gets control of his character he is dead. And do you honestly think CCP sat at the design table saying, "Ok, not let's make this so the enemy team can wait over here and kill the other team the moment they spawn!" No, they intended for the players to hack/destroy the spawn unit but instead they exploit it.

Again, not saying it isn't a smart tactic. It absolutely is because it is there and a viable way of winning. But that doesn't mean they shouldn't try to do something so stuff like this doesn't happen in the future.

Technically, it is an exploit, but not of the game itself. It's an exploit of the dumb opponents that spawn in knowing there are people waiting to obliterate them. It's not like there is no counter for it. All you have to do is not spawn there...

actually from my experience i have never instantly died, this guy is exageratting, his connection is crap, or he takes to long too move after spawning. you hold down sprint while waiting to spawn in and immediately start bunny hopping most of the time you can kill the campers unless it's a heavy.. these whiners are going to ask for some crutch like a 5 second spawn immunity, they cried in all the battlefields for this same crutch, luckily they were denied it in that game every time they whined for it EA actually had a sack that time.


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semperfi1999 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 364	Posted - 2013.03.15 14:09:00 - [1] - Quote Sobriety Denied wrote: DS 10 wrote: Delirium Inferno wrote: Funk Volume wrote: Mithridates V wrote: It's not clear to me. Elaborate. I second this vote for an elaboration. Person spawns in and before he even gets control of his character he is dead. And do you honestly think CCP sat at the design table saying, "Ok, not let's make this so the enemy team can wait over here and kill the other team the moment they spawn!" No, they intended for the players to hack/destroy the spawn unit but instead they exploit it. Again, not saying it isn't a smart tactic. It absolutely is because it is there and a viable way of winning. But that doesn't mean they shouldn't try to do something so stuff like this doesn't happen in the future. Technically, it is an exploit, but not of the game itself. It's an exploit of the dumb opponents that spawn in knowing there are people waiting to obliterate them. It's not like there is no counter for it. All you have to do is not spawn there... actually from my experience i have never instantly died, this guy is exageratting, his connection is crap, or he takes to long too move after spawning. you hold down sprint while waiting to spawn in and immediately start bunny hopping most of the time you can kill the campers unless it's a heavy.. these whiners are going to ask for some crutch like a 5 second spawn immunity, they cried in all the battlefields for this same crutch, luckily they were denied it in that game every time they whined for it EA actually had a sack that time. Actually did you play BF3? They added a 2 second spawn protection due to the complaints on this.....just saying. I agree its a valid tactic and should not be changed by CCP. If CCP wanted to change anything to stop the farming with the CRU then there is only 1 change that should be made. Make CRUs worth more than just a spawn location. Make CRUs have a certain level of clones available in it. Say 100 clones. Every time you spawn from a CRU that you own it does not diminish your overall clone count because you are using a clone from the hacked CRU your team took. After 100 clones are gone the CRU self destructs. This means that there is actually a benefit to hacking/owning a CRU....you get the use of these clones that dont hurt your clone count....that can be a game changer at times. This means that destroying or hacking them would be a tremendous tactical decision that could affect the outcome of a game even more than CRUs currently can. This I think is the only possible solution that should be considered to potentially limit CRU spawn camping.
semperfi1999 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 366	Posted - 2013.03.15 15:50:00 - [2] - Quote IRuby Heart wrote: Can anyone honestly say that they like the new ambush better than the old one? Its not fun anymore at all... Raises hand The new spawn system despite some issues is far superior to the one we had before. I have only once spawned into a bunch of red dots and died instantly with the new system. B4 i refused to play ambush as I had the worst luck. I would sometimes spawn up to 4 times in a single game right in front of or in the middle of a bunch of red dots. At one point it was so bad I would only use free fits starting off and would switch to a better fit if I survived and we were playing OMS.
semperfi1999 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 372	Posted - 2013.03.20 12:55:00 - [3] - Quote BASSMEANT wrote: anyone who thinks this is not a legit thing is a casual gamer, so their opinion matters about as much as a used piece of toilet paper. both can get flushed. at least the toilet paper knows how to do its job. can't say the same for the sissy casual gamer. first you lil sissies hide behind the red line so you can't get killed. now you're mad because you spawned on a cru with no blue dots around it and got killed. only folks who suck at gaming would think this isn't "fair". Peace B QFT The majority of CRUs are in open areas that are easy to tell if they are being camped. If you cant pay enough attention to not get spawn camped then its your own fault. Besides that sometimes it just happens. I have spawn right in front od another guy that a sniper was trying to snipe and was insta killed.....i have also been spawned in front of a vehicle that came barrelling into the objective and i got an unlicky spawn. I have also spawnes in the moment that a OBS was called. Everytime i just say ah so lame (because it is a lame death not a lame kill) and move on.