What's the matter, your tank go pop?

a 40,000 ISK gun with a level 4 skill shouldn't be doing as much damage as an 800,000 ISK medium vehicle has total armor.

And a militia (no skill) FG for 1,000 ISK should not do half of the total HP of a medium vehicle that cost 800,000 ISK.

Sorry.

Two players with zero SP and 3,000 isk should not be able to effortlessly (those things are easy to aim) And instantly shoot down a million ISK vehicle that requires millions in skills and actually a little player skill to pilot.

I don't have a problem with the forge gun's damage, just its range. The fact that a group of them with a little coordination can blap the tankiest HAVs in the game in only a few seconds isn't a problem, but the fact that even one forge gun on a high spot can deny vehicle movement anywhere on the map seems a bit silly.

I don't have a problem with the forge gun's damage, just its range. The fact that a group of them with a little coordination can blap the tankiest HAVs in the game in only a few seconds isn't a problem, but the fact that even one forge gun on a high spot can deny vehicle movement anywhere on the map seems a bit silly.

I could agree perhaps.

Now invert both all players locations:

Every FG on the map is under cover and unseen. The Dropship is flying high for all to see, with no cover usually anywhere near it! (Even if there was, being shot will bump you against a wall or the ground and you'll explode anyhow)

So any FG from anywhere can 100% deny the ability for that ds to basically do anything except die

I could agree perhaps.

Now invert both all players locations:

Every FG on the map is under cover and unseen. The Dropship is flying high for all to see, with no cover usually anywhere near it! (Even if there was, being shot will bump you against a wall or the ground and you'll explode anyhow)

So any FG from anywhere can 100% deny the ability for that ds to basically do anything except die

I don't have a problem with the forge gun's damage, just its range. The fact that a group of them with a little coordination can blap the tankiest HAVs in the game in only a few seconds isn't a problem, but the fact that even one forge gun on a high spot can deny vehicle movement anywhere on the map seems a bit silly.

Don't use it if you can't afford to lose it.

I think the main issue with Dropship vs Forgegun is that the Dropship needs a flight ceiling boost. I think it's 150m right now and that's far too low in my opinion. (Coming from an adamant hunter of dropships.)

If you nerf the damage on the forge it will imbalance against tanks and high end LAVs. It's always good to try to look at the situation and figure a way to solve it that doesn't just nerf a weapon but improves overall gameplay and tactics.

Also technically, a few starter frigs could kill a solo titan

technically or in practice?

In practice a few starter fits can solo a maxed ds

I'd say it would be balanced if they lowered the damage of all AV, grenades, and forges. But then also reduced the EHP of tanks.

Or if DS got that cloaking they dev blogged about years ago, and if that was actually implemented to be useful (passive ability, like that Lav with the healing) and not another module of which we seem to need them all

I'd say it would be balanced if they lowered the damage of all AV, grenades, and forges. But then also reduced the EHP of tanks.

That works for Eve, where the game is balanced*.

This would be akin if Eve had some spamable pod that could 2 shot a titan, and warp to any fight anywhere instantly.
If That was the case, the phrase "Don't use it if you can't afford to lose it" Would never have been derived.

Think about what you're saying, there's a reason that phrase came out of Eve. Just because CCP made both Eve and Dust does not mean the idiom applies to both right now

People are just either too butthurt or scared about getting their favourite weapons nerfed had they gotten killed by the same weapon they would post similiar things.

EDIT: what you said there was absolute BS "let's nerf everything and reduce eHP on everything but dropships"
Grow a Pair.

Technically as in if that scenario were to happen, the titan would have no chance http://r1fta.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14726097 this is a good representation of whar cheaper stuff can do

This would be akin if Eve had some spamable pod that could 2 shot a titan, and warp to any fight anywhere instantly.

That works for Eve, where the game is balanced*.

This would be akin if Eve had some spamable pod that could 2 shot a titan, and warp to any fight anywhere instantly.
If That was the case, the phrase "Don't use it if you can't afford to lose it" Would never have been derived.

Think about what you're saying, there's a reason that phrase came out of Eve. Just because CCP made both Eve and Dust does not mean the idiom applies to both right now

Pro-FG posts are not welcome. We don't like you :(