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Cosorvin
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.03.13 19:32:00 -
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Bah another one of these whiny "This gun hurts me nerf it" thread.
First of all picture a forge gun as a SMAW (rocket launcher in real life) if you were struck by one of these would you live? I think we all know the answer to this question. Why should the forge gun be any different? Originally forge guns were ment to pop tanks and dropships, but some people have mastered it and use it against infanty.
Problem? Their shouldn't be its utter logic that a forge gun will one shot you.
EDIT: also in case your whining because someone destroyed your dropship or tank then im telling you to get over. |
Cosorvin
DUST University
Ivy League
56
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Posted - 2013.03.13 19:56:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:a 40,000 ISK gun with a level 4 skill shouldn't be doing as much damage as an 800,000 ISK medium vehicle has total armor.
And a militia (no skill) FG for 1,000 ISK should not do half of the total HP of a medium vehicle that cost 800,000 ISK.
Sorry.
Two players with zero SP and 3,000 isk should not be able to effortlessly (those things are easy to aim) And instantly shoot down a million ISK vehicle that requires millions in skills and actually a little player skill to pilot.
And why does a javelin (A real life auto targets rocket launcher) blow up tanks easily which cost way more then a javelin does and its rockets. In real life the enemy doesn't come up and go "Hey well I think these guns are OP so they need to be nerfed so I can stand a chance" kind of thing, and if your whining about money then don't break one thing to compliment another. Ask for tanks to cost less. Not nerf a gun because Im upset that it blew up my expensive tank. |
Cosorvin
DUST University
Ivy League
57
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Posted - 2013.03.13 20:00:00 -
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Alan-Ibn-Xuan Al-Alasabe wrote:I don't have a problem with the forge gun's damage, just its range. The fact that a group of them with a little coordination can blap the tankiest HAVs in the game in only a few seconds isn't a problem, but the fact that even one forge gun on a high spot can deny vehicle movement anywhere on the map seems a bit silly.
Im pretty sure it only prohibits vehicles from getting somewhere (May I remind you all that forge guns are made to combat vehicles) because it fires fast then a guy with a smaw or javelin can reload.
Which would make sense because this would be thousands if not more years from where we are now and Id be worried if mercs were still firing SMAWS at these advanced vehicles. |
Cosorvin
DUST University
Ivy League
57
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Posted - 2013.03.13 20:02:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:Alan-Ibn-Xuan Al-Alasabe wrote:I don't have a problem with the forge gun's damage, just its range. The fact that a group of them with a little coordination can blap the tankiest HAVs in the game in only a few seconds isn't a problem, but the fact that even one forge gun on a high spot can deny vehicle movement anywhere on the map seems a bit silly. I could agree perhaps. Now invert both all players locations: Every FG on the map is under cover and unseen. The Dropship is flying high for all to see, with no cover usually anywhere near it! (Even if there was, being shot will bump you against a wall or the ground and you'll explode anyhow) So any FG from anywhere can 100% deny the ability for that ds to basically do anything except die
May I remind you that this is a combat game? Your not suppose to allow enemies to get behind lines and report positions. This isn't a "oh look im flying around everyone leave me alone while report your positions DERP.)
Faster the dropship is taken down the better. |
Cosorvin
DUST University
Ivy League
60
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Posted - 2013.03.13 20:22:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Don't use it if you can't afford to lose it. That works for Eve, where the game is balanced*. This would be akin if Eve had some spamable pod that could 2 shot a titan, and warp to any fight anywhere instantly. If That was the case, the phrase "Don't use it if you can't afford to lose it" Would never have been derived. Think about what you're saying, there's a reason that phrase came out of Eve. Just because CCP made both Eve and Dust does not mean the idiom applies to both right now
Honestly the logic for space combat (especially for a titan) is different. A titan is huge and armoured with heavy weaponry. It would take a lot of shots and ships to bring down a titan. A tank is not of the magnitude of a titan.
And if your getting annoyed of my ramblings of logic call me a vulcan; Nonetheless, its logic and their for cannot be ignored. |
Cosorvin
DUST University
Ivy League
60
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Posted - 2013.03.13 20:25:00 -
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Gusk Hevv wrote:People are just either too butthurt or scared about getting their favourite weapons nerfed had they gotten killed by the same weapon they would post similiar things.
EDIT: what you said there was absolute BS "let's nerf everything and reduce eHP on everything but dropships"
Grow a Pair.
Being annoyed and whining on the forums to get a perfectly balanced guns are two very different things.
Are you saying we are suppose to let a good gun go down the drain due to whines?
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