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The dark cloud
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.03.12 12:31:00 -
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Allright time for some "interesting" conversations about that new fancy scout suit we got today for playing the merc battles. Equipment: -Militia shield extender (only 1 high slot) -Black Eagle shotgun (black painting STD shotgun) -Black Eagle Assault Rifle (this weapon is rated as S "sidearm) -Fused Locus grenades -no low slots -no equipment slot
Skills required: -none
This is a extreme unqiue dropsuit cause it actually has 2 light weapons. And that assault rifle is looked at as a sidearm which is another thing to discuss. So are we going to see in the future specialised assault rifles which go into the S slot or dropsuits which are capable to carry 2 light weapons? Like mentioned this dropsuit has only 1 high module slot, no equipment or low slots. So to be aible to carry 2 light weapons you loose some other important stuff. I think the forgegun on a assault suit is again becoming a viable option. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
1662
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Posted - 2013.03.12 12:35:00 -
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No low slots? That's odd. That's almost like an obelisk not having any slots at all. |
Panther Alpha
WarRavens
101
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Posted - 2013.03.12 12:43:00 -
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I have to wait to later to see it
But thanks for the info.
I like the idea of two light weapons slots, it may be just the encouragement that i need, to spend more SP in the scout dropsuit. And yes i agree that a heavy weapon / light weapon combo lots very lightly. Or maybe a Medium weapon / light weapon combo for assault dropsuits ? |
Beren Hurin
OMNI Endeavors
233
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Posted - 2013.03.12 12:48:00 -
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How many did you get? |
Calgoth Reborn
United Front LLC
155
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Posted - 2013.03.12 12:49:00 -
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Beren Hurin wrote:How many did you get?
10 |
Grenwal Hiesenberg
Shadow Company HQ
229
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Posted - 2013.03.12 13:04:00 -
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No skill requirements? So it's a militia grade suit? Could you please post the cpu and pg specs? Thanks for this bit of insight too +1 |
Beren Hurin
OMNI Endeavors
233
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Posted - 2013.03.12 13:10:00 -
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Grenwal Hiesenberg wrote:No skill requirements? So it's a militia grade suit? Could you please post the cpu and pg specs? Thanks for this bit of insight too +1 Scan profile, range, and resolution would be good also. |
Calgoth Reborn
United Front LLC
155
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Posted - 2013.03.12 13:16:00 -
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Grenwal Hiesenberg wrote:No skill requirements? So it's a militia grade suit? Could you please post the cpu and pg specs? Thanks for this bit of insight too +1
meta level 3 pg 15 90 cpu which really don't make much of a difference as switching out anything not really worth it and the black eagle ar is same stats as an exile and if you try to replace it only gives sidearm options |
Calgoth Reborn
United Front LLC
155
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Posted - 2013.03.12 13:18:00 -
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Beren Hurin wrote:Grenwal Hiesenberg wrote:No skill requirements? So it's a militia grade suit? Could you please post the cpu and pg specs? Thanks for this bit of insight too +1 Scan profile, range, and resolution would be good also.
same as scout suits 45db 25m scan radius |
Dirk Tash
Brotherhood ofthe Commissioned
4
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Posted - 2013.03.12 13:21:00 -
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It really is just a "for show" suit. 107 CPU, 18 PG, 114 Shield (w/o 22HP shield extender), 149 armor, 8.23 sprint speed. One upper, 2 weapons, one grenade, no equipment, no lower modules. |
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Beren Hurin
OMNI Endeavors
233
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Posted - 2013.03.12 13:24:00 -
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Shield regen and delays? |
Parson Atreides
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
165
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Posted - 2013.03.12 13:25:00 -
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If this unique set-up is a sign of the racial suits to come, then I'm looking forward to them even more. |
Dirk Tash
Brotherhood ofthe Commissioned
4
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Posted - 2013.03.12 13:27:00 -
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Ah, one note, I posted stats with my passives, so stats will actually be lower. And shield recharge rate and stamina look the same as scouts. |
Draxus Prime
BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire
6
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Posted - 2013.03.12 13:42:00 -
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i haven't touched my quafe suits yet because im gonna sell them when player market is added but can u restock the special suits |
Grenwal Hiesenberg
Shadow Company HQ
229
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Posted - 2013.03.12 13:45:00 -
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Thanks fellas, can't wait to get home and tinker with it myself, I'm thinking to keep the black eagle "sidearm"and putting a shotgun on the main but with only ten suits I don't wanna waste any of 'em. |
Corban Lahnder
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
159
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Posted - 2013.03.12 13:45:00 -
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A suit missing a slot:
They do the same thing with give away ships in EVE, Like the Primae, or the Echelon, or that SOCT frigate. Its how you give people something new and different but not op. |
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ChribbaX
Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control Otherworld Empire Productions
187
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Posted - 2013.03.12 13:58:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:No low slots? That's odd. That's almost like an obelisk not having any slots at all. Can I buy your obelisk that do have slots? hehe
But yeah sounds like a strange move to not have any lows at all - unless it had more highs to compensate with.
/c |
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1956
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Posted - 2013.03.12 14:13:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:I have to wait to later to see it But thanks for the info. I like the idea of two light weapons slots, it may be just the encouragement that i need, to spend more SP in the scout dropsuit. And yes i agree that a heavy weapon / light weapon combo looks very likely. Or maybe a Medium weapon / light weapon combo for assault dropsuits ? It's not 2 Light slots though, it's one LIght, one Sidearm, but the AR is designated as a Sidearm.
Here's the complete baseline stats as supplied in the "More Info" screen (which DOESN'T count passives):
Max. PG: 15 kW Max. CPU:90 gF Shield: 100 HP Armour: 130 HP Shield Recharge Rate: 40.0 HP/s Shield Recharge Delay: 4.0 s Shield Depleted Recharge Delay: 10.0 s Armour Repair Rate: 0.0 HP/s Movement Speed: 5.6 m/s Sprint Speed: 8.2 m/s Sprint Duration: 19.5 s Stamina: 195 Stamina Recovery Rate: 18.0 /s Scan Profile: 45 dB Scan precision: 45 dB Scan Radius: 25.0 m Melee Damage: 135.0 HP Meta Level: 3
Fitting:
Infantry High Powered Module: 1 Infantry Small Capacity Grenade: 1 Infantry Sidearm Weapon: 1 Infantry Light Weapon: 1 |
Calgoth Reborn
United Front LLC
157
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Posted - 2013.03.12 14:14:00 -
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ChribbaX wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:No low slots? That's odd. That's almost like an obelisk not having any slots at all. Can I buy your obelisk that do have slots? hehe But yeah sounds like a strange move to not have any lows at all - unless it had more highs to compensate with. /c
The trade off of having both a shotty and an assault rifle would be my guess |
G Sacred
Rubber Chicken Bombers
74
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Posted - 2013.03.12 14:44:00 -
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So it's one hell of a glass cannon suit? Low PG/CPU, low shields/armor, great weapons? |
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Vanda-Kon
KILLSTAR CO.
74
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Posted - 2013.03.12 14:57:00 -
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I noticed that if you replace the shotgun with another shotgun the Black eagle shotgunh is no longer available for selection. I may be wrong, but it seems to have happened for me. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1960
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Posted - 2013.03.12 14:58:00 -
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Vanda-Kon wrote:I noticed that if you replace the shotgun with another shotgun the Black eagle shotgunh is no longer available for selection. I may be wrong, but it seems to have happened for me. Like with any other weapon that's pre-fitted, if you want it back, just unequip the weapon you replaced it with. Don't use "replace" and look for it, just hit "remove" and the Shotgun should come back. |
Beren Hurin
OMNI Endeavors
233
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Posted - 2013.03.12 15:02:00 -
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So can it fit an advanced shield module? |
tribal wyvern
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
687
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Posted - 2013.03.12 15:16:00 -
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I'll be selling my black eagle suits (except one) when we get player market, along with: 30 day active booster Hacked drop uplink Hk4m shotgun Valor scout Myofibril stim Fused locus grenade 2x skin weave scout 2x skin weave heavy Exile AR 7 day active booster Creodron methana Quafe scout (except one) Should all bring in a pretty penny |
Vanda-Kon
KILLSTAR CO.
74
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Posted - 2013.03.12 15:18:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:I noticed that if you replace the shotgun with another shotgun the Black eagle shotgunh is no longer available for selection. I may be wrong, but it seems to have happened for me. Like with any other weapon that's pre-fitted, if you want it back, just unequip the weapon you replaced it with. Don't use "replace" and look for it, just hit "remove" and the Shotgun should come back.
Thank you. |
ICECREAMK1NG
WARRIORS 1NC
391
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Posted - 2013.03.12 15:34:00 -
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Fantastic.
This should bring people back to play in their droves.
Good job ccp.
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Seamie Schmoove
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
68
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Posted - 2013.03.12 16:00:00 -
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tribal wyvern wrote:I'll be selling my black eagle suits (except one) when we get player market, along with: 30 day active booster Hacked drop uplink Hk4m shotgun Valor scout Myofibril stim Fused locus grenade 2x skin weave scout 2x skin weave heavy Exile AR 7 day active booster Creodron methana Quafe scout (except one) Should all bring in a pretty penny
Same here with all the tanks and derpships I've picked up... |
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CCP Eterne
C C P C C P Alliance
967
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Posted - 2013.03.12 16:05:00 -
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ICECREAMK1NG wrote:Fantastic. This should bring people back to play in their droves. Good job ccp.
This item wasn't intended to drive subscribers or anything. It was simply to provide a nice little bonus to people who participated in the Live Event.
By the way, we'll be giving out the dropsuit in future Live Events and in a few other contexts as well. |
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Ignoble Son
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
52
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Posted - 2013.03.12 16:19:00 -
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One high slot and no low slots. Can't even equip a complex extender (A-series my butt). You do realize that this thing is going to go down like a chump, right? How is this thing viable in any way? How disappointing. Nothing but a novelty item. |
Im a PIGEON
Reckoners
2
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Posted - 2013.03.12 16:23:00 -
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Ignoble Son wrote:One high slot and no low slots. Can't even equip a complex extender (A-series my butt). You do realize that this thing is going to go down like a chump, right? How is this thing viable in any way? How disappointing. Nothing but a novelty item. It may only be a novelty item, but the cut and colour are very slimming. I look GOOD in the Warbarge... |
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Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium
332
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Posted - 2013.03.12 16:24:00 -
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Ignoble Son wrote:One high slot and no low slots. Can't even equip a complex extender (A-series my butt). You do realize that this thing is going to go down like a chump, right? How is this thing viable in any way? How disappointing. Nothing but a novelty item.
Most freebies from CCP are collector's items and not intended to be useful on the field. The CreoDron LAV was unusual because it could actually tank really well but since it was a limited edition item they won't be seeing much action from me.
I'll put the Black Eagles suit in my collection and maybe slowly pass them around to friends later for those that don't get the opportunity to get them for themselves.
/me looks over collection of ships received over the last five years.
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Phoenix Archer 128
Better Hide R Die
122
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Posted - 2013.03.12 16:25:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:ICECREAMK1NG wrote:Fantastic. This should bring people back to play in their droves. Good job ccp. This item wasn't intended to drive subscribers or anything. It was simply to provide a nice little bonus to people who participated in the Live Event. By the way, we'll be giving out the dropsuit in future Live Events and in a few other contexts as well. Ooh...good. 10 just isn't enough lol. I can see these being expensive once the player-market opens up |
Phoenix Archer 128
Better Hide R Die
122
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Posted - 2013.03.12 16:25:00 -
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Im a PIGEON wrote:Ignoble Son wrote:One high slot and no low slots. Can't even equip a complex extender (A-series my butt). You do realize that this thing is going to go down like a chump, right? How is this thing viable in any way? How disappointing. Nothing but a novelty item. It may only be a novelty item, but the cut and colour are very slimming. I look GOOD in the Warbarge... lol...I do that with some of my alt-color suits from the closed beta. My Firebrand suit makes me look like a Logi or Heavy |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1996
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Posted - 2013.03.12 16:27:00 -
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I can't believe I missed those matches, I was all set to play them too |
Spy Mouse
New Eden Space Pirates
9
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Posted - 2013.03.12 16:42:00 -
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tribal wyvern wrote:I'll be selling my black eagle suits (except one) when we get player market, along with: 30 day active booster Hacked drop uplink Hk4m shotgun Valor scout Myofibril stim Fused locus grenade 2x skin weave scout 2x skin weave heavy Exile AR 7 day active booster Creodron methana Quafe scout (except one) Should all bring in a pretty penny I don't think we'll be able to trade boosters, people might find a way to abuse the system. We should have no problem trading the event items though. Of which I have plenty. I'm holding on to my Methanas, I may even end up buying yours. |
Beren Hurin
OMNI Endeavors
236
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Posted - 2013.03.12 16:51:00 -
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Might be the best rushing scout suit to get the initial objectives? |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1974
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Posted - 2013.03.12 16:52:00 -
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Spy Mouse wrote:I don't think we'll be able to trade boosters, people might find a way to abuse the system. We should have no problem trading the event items though. Of which I have plenty. I'm holding on to my Methanas, I may even end up buying yours. You'll still only be able to have the usual limit of ONE booster active at a time, no matter how many you own or how much of what currency you paid for them.
I can't see the possible "abuse" here. Am I missing something? |
Panther Alpha
WarRavens
101
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Posted - 2013.03.12 16:55:00 -
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Beren Hurin wrote:Might be the best rushing scout suit to get the initial objectives?
Yep.... look at the speed specs. add to that a nice couple of weapons to kill other scouts.... and you have the perfect formula. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax. CRONOS.
3076
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Posted - 2013.03.12 16:56:00 -
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G Sacred wrote:So it's one hell of a glass cannon suit? Low PG/CPU, low shields/armor, great weapons?
That sounds like gallente mind set,
'shoot once' |
Draco Cerberus
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
6
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Posted - 2013.03.12 17:20:00 -
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Are there any plans to give away some collector suits in the heavy class rather than the scout suits that seem to be prevelant for rewards? Such as a "Black Eagle Heavy" that has an equipment slot? |
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Kiso Okami
Militaires Sans Jeux
26
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Posted - 2013.03.12 17:38:00 -
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Draco Cerberus wrote:Are there any plans to give away some collector suits in the heavy class rather than the scout suits that seem to be prevelant for rewards? Such as a "Black Eagle Heavy" that has an equipment slot?
Do Black Eagles even have "heavies" in their ranks? I mean, they're an intelligence agency tasked mostly with taking down internal threats. I guess their main focus would be assassinations and arrests of corrupt members of the Federation, not outright combat in the front lines.
Maybe you'll get BE Assault at best, and then Heavies will be Navy Issue officer gear. |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
434
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Posted - 2013.03.12 18:36:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:ICECREAMK1NG wrote:Fantastic. This should bring people back to play in their droves. Good job ccp. This item wasn't intended to drive subscribers or anything. It was simply to provide a nice little bonus to people who participated in the Live Event. By the way, we'll be giving out the dropsuit in future Live Events and in a few other contexts as well.
Thank you. By the way with no slot to place a repair armor item has this suit IMHO being a see me in this suit only and thats it since battlefield use will only get me killed.
Once again thanks for this item. |
Val'herik Dorn
CrimeWave Syndicate
329
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Posted - 2013.03.12 18:41:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:G Sacred wrote:So it's one hell of a glass cannon suit? Low PG/CPU, low shields/armor, great weapons? That sounds like gallente mind set, 'shoot once'
I thought the Gallente mindset was stick as much armor on it as possible, fit it with blasters and ram it, then throw endless waves of robotic minions at it till it dies?!
Have i been doing it wrong all this time?!?! |
Dirk Tash
Brotherhood ofthe Commissioned
4
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Posted - 2013.03.12 18:48:00 -
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Beren Hurin wrote:Might be the best rushing scout suit to get the initial objectives?
Not really, given there are no low mods. I have a Scout A series that sprints at 9.7.
I see it as a collector's item, something for people to show off but not use in combat. |
Tahir Maru
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2013.03.12 20:02:00 -
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Dirk Tash wrote:Beren Hurin wrote:Might be the best rushing scout suit to get the initial objectives? Not really, given there are no low mods. I have a Scout A series that sprints at 9.7. I see it as a collector's item, something for people to show off but not use in combat.
Maybe that OR one will be able to get a supply of those suits (and different ones of other factions) for 'loyality' towards certain npc contract issuers for npc-mission grinding or something? *wink wink* |
Seamie Schmoove
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
68
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Posted - 2013.03.12 20:21:00 -
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Free crap is still free however unusable it might be It'll be interesting to see if anyone will admit to being taken out by one of these in the next few days if its truly as muck as we seem to be making it out to be. |
Delirium Inferno
Chernova Industries
56
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Posted - 2013.03.12 20:24:00 -
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I used up one of my suits already but damn was it worth it. Now I wish CCP would release a Scout Type C with no low slots or equipment slots but two light weapon slots, except once you get to the "Vk. 2" which would have one low slot and equipment slot added. |
Nirwanda Vaughns
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
2
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Posted - 2013.03.12 20:50:00 -
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Phoenix Archer 128 wrote:Im a PIGEON wrote:Ignoble Son wrote:One high slot and no low slots. Can't even equip a complex extender (A-series my butt). You do realize that this thing is going to go down like a chump, right? How is this thing viable in any way? How disappointing. Nothing but a novelty item. It may only be a novelty item, but the cut and colour are very slimming. I look GOOD in the Warbarge... lol...I do that with some of my alt-color suits from the closed beta. My Firebrand suit makes me look like a Logi or Heavy
and i'll be first to contact you about them firebrand suits.. well if you could grab a screenie so i can make sure its right one. i bought a bunch of stuff in closed beta (early closed beta) but never had them back. i had the original gold/black suit and the pure white one (bone? was it?) so if anyone has any of them come see me and i'm sure i can work some trades over :D
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Phoenix Archer 128
Better Hide R Die
122
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Posted - 2013.03.12 22:35:00 -
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Val'herik Dorn wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:G Sacred wrote:So it's one hell of a glass cannon suit? Low PG/CPU, low shields/armor, great weapons? That sounds like gallente mind set, 'shoot once' I thought the Gallente mindset was stick as much armor on it as possible, fit it with blasters and ram it, then throw endless waves of robotic minions at it till it dies?! Have i been doing it wrong all this time?!?! I was going to say...I could have sworn the Gallente loved armor and drones...
Isn't it the Minmatar that are glass cannons generally? |
Phoenix Archer 128
Better Hide R Die
122
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Posted - 2013.03.12 22:37:00 -
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Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:Phoenix Archer 128 wrote:Im a PIGEON wrote:Ignoble Son wrote:One high slot and no low slots. Can't even equip a complex extender (A-series my butt). You do realize that this thing is going to go down like a chump, right? How is this thing viable in any way? How disappointing. Nothing but a novelty item. It may only be a novelty item, but the cut and colour are very slimming. I look GOOD in the Warbarge... lol...I do that with some of my alt-color suits from the closed beta. My Firebrand suit makes me look like a Logi or Heavy and i'll be first to contact you about them firebrand suits.. well if you could grab a screenie so i can make sure its right one. i bought a bunch of stuff in closed beta (early closed beta) but never had them back. i had the original gold/black suit and the pure white one (bone? was it?) so if anyone has any of them come see me and i'm sure i can work some trades over :D I don't know if I'm willing to part with these suits, honestly...
BTW, the Firebrand are the gold/black, there is a white one (can't remember its name) and the Relics are the blue/black. I also have one of each of the other suit alt-colors, but I can't use them and again, prob not going to sell them anytime soon... |
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G Torq
ALTA B2O
97
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Posted - 2013.03.13 10:00:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote: This item wasn't intended to drive subscribers or anything. It was simply to provide a nice little bonus to people who participated in the Live Event.
By the way, we'll be giving out the dropsuit in future Live Events and in a few other contexts as well.
Why this solution of giving 10 pcs after the event? For BPOs I can understand it, but why not make the suits part of the Salvage. You win, you get 1 (one!) suit, in each Merc battle :p
Not that I mind getting 10 scout suits, but I'd rather fight for them... |
madd greazy
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
35
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Posted - 2013.03.13 10:09:00 -
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Grenwal Hiesenberg wrote:Thanks fellas, can't wait to get home and tinker with it myself, I'm thinking to keep the black eagle "sidearm"and putting a beefier shotgun on the main but with only ten suits I don't wanna waste any of 'em.
You won't be able to keep the item it's part of the suit, you take it off and it's lost forever... until you take the wepon you replaced it with off or remake the suit that is. |
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