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IRuby Heart DIOS EX. 400	Posted - 2013.03.11 18:27:00 - [31] - Quote Gusk Hevv wrote: Grabs Mass Driver You were saying... lol a laser rifle will tear up an Mass Driver user with little to no effort. Just started specing into them, currently I see the ELM-7 as a super expensive base laser rifle. So i'm sticking with base LR until i reach the Viziam.
Bojo The Mighty Bojo's School of the Trades 559	Posted - 2013.03.11 18:29:00 - [32] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: I don't think that's too common. I find that battles are more fun and interesting the more minority weapons are being used. Ideally all light weapons should be equally as common. This I rarely see: Mass Drivers, Laser Rifles, TAR, Burst AR, Breach AR, Any Scrambler Pistols>Militia, Breach Forge, Breach Shotgun, Submachine Guns other than Toxin. Seriously, how special do those who constantly use Norm AR feel?
Knight SoIaire Better Hide R Die 63	Posted - 2013.03.11 18:30:00 - [33] - Quote Yes, that damn Viziam takes me down in mere miliseconds! (Possibly an over exaggeration ) I really hope its Damage mods that are causing that, because I really dont think the LR needs another nerf.
Zahle Undt Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 31	Posted - 2013.03.11 18:31:00 - [34] - Quote Sentient Archon wrote: Zahle Undt wrote: I blame Sentient Archon...its all his fault I was gonna put a yo mama joke in there but I am already on the CCP "Waiting to Ban" list. I am gonna stretch it as long as I can LOL. My mama's so stupid she tripped over a cordless phone and so fat that when she fell and broke her leg, gravy poured out. there you go Sentient a twofer for ya!
IRuby Heart DIOS EX. 400	Posted - 2013.03.11 18:32:00 - [35] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: I don't think that's too common. I find that battles are more fun and interesting the more minority weapons are being used. Ideally all light weapons should be equally as common. This I rarely see: Mass Drivers, Laser Rifles, TAR, Burst AR, Breach AR, Any Scrambler Pistols>Militia, Breach Forge, Breach Shotgun, Submachine Guns other than Toxin. Seriously, how special do those who constantly use Norm AR feel? Because most people, aren't familiar with those weapons, there not even in a starter fit which every newbie starts off with and gets accustomed to, not do they have affordable newbie militia variants aside from the shotgun that they can afford and test out. Aside from that, not many people really care about feeling special...
Sentient Archon Red Star. 736	Posted - 2013.03.11 18:32:00 - [36] - Quote Zahle Undt wrote: I blame Sentient Archon...its all his fault That's what yo mama said when she had you Zingers!
Canari Elphus Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION 43	Posted - 2013.03.11 19:12:00 - [37] - Quote Different fits, different situation. With the LR, you only need to spend the 12k SP and you have a good fit for open maps. Unlike other weapons (well, other than the shotty) you dont need any real specialization to be quite effective with it. Benefits - Low SP cost to be effective (especially if you have other light weapon skills) Low ISK cost for fits (easily build a nasty fit for 30k) Easy to aim with it basically being a tracer Very good at keeping enemies pinned in a certain area as nobody wants to come out in the open against it. Negatives - It cant be used in all situations. Its worthless in CQC A shotty scout is an easy counter given that you can time the fire burst and rush a LR user during reload/cooldown.
Rasatsu Much Crying Old Experts 493	Posted - 2013.03.11 20:26:00 - [38] - Quote Scissor reporting in. Paper still balanced. But do consider fixing rocks, they're just way too powerful.
Marston VC SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 103	Posted - 2013.03.11 20:36:00 - [39] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: I skilled into them just for the Asia game show map. Cant beat em...join em I like that sort of mentality (atleast in this scenario). As much as i hate getting killed by my own gun..... its really cool to see lasers flying around everywhere!
Marston VC SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 103	Posted - 2013.03.11 20:37:00 - [40] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: I love when the enemy team is full of Laser guys. Shotguns work wonders against them. You dont sayyyy? well my advanced OP SMG has something to say about that

Marston VC SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 103	Posted - 2013.03.11 20:40:00 - [41] - Quote Repe Susi wrote: Marston VC wrote: I went in three back to back matches on the jagged edge map in ambush today. I played against mostly the same people each time and they had a squad of three with laser rifles.... Its difficult for me to counter that with my laser solo, but it was "fun" all the same. Aside from the occasionally viziam user i can best most laser guys with my standard LR. Lol funny how im a LR specialist but i have yet to go past LR op lvl 1. So what about you guys? seen a lot more lasers lately? Nowadays i cant get into a single match without there being atleast one other LR guy, and thats pretty high considering i almost never saw them before. It's the map. It's like it was designed for the lasers. Btw, we were on opposing sides on one match yesterday on that map. Noticed your laser, and I'm fairly sure you noticed ours too. LOL yeah this thread is talking specifically about you and few other guys who were using the lasers on that map. Ill admit it was a little frustrating/ironic getting beamed by my own gun, but fair is fair. Besides, its not like i personally did that bad, i just did worse compared to what im used to (going from a normal score of 24 - 2 to 18 - 4 sounds like nothing but pisses me off twice as much). Lol, that being said though, i deffinitly lost three games in a row.
Marston VC SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 103	Posted - 2013.03.11 20:44:00 - [42] - Quote Argo Filch wrote: I only see LR getting more used on the Manus Peak Ambush (not OMS) map. But i guess that`s because people (well i guess Raspberries' Blueberries do) tend to stand around in the open taking shots at people in cover and then starting to run around like headless chickens when they get roasted by mah lazors! Mjamm roasted headless chicken! On every other map it's rather situational whether i use the LR or not... i tend to change suits several times a battle but i mostly use AR for day to day slaughtering and LR to pick of annoying people on pipes. I really like the LR but i have to admit i`m not really dedicated to it... As a Logibro i tend to get out what`s most beneficial atm. Every map EXCEPT FOR BIOMASS (i despise that map), has specific spots on it that allow the lasers to dominate. The four letter map is great if you can get on top of either C/D or the table top in the center, Communication map seems bad but if you get on the CRU side you can pretty much cut the map in half, The five letter map gets dominated by me if i can get either above B or on one of the pipes, and obviously that sand map just makes the LR OP (not really though). Biomass is the only exception because of how closed in everything is, theres one "decent" spot that you can get to but you need a dropship to get there, and that would sap all of the money you would make off the match anyway.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 607	Posted - 2013.03.11 20:45:00 - [43] - Quote Marston VC wrote: DJINN Marauder wrote: I skilled into them just for the Asia game show map. Cant beat em...join em I like that sort of mentality (atleast in this scenario). As much as i hate getting killed by my own gun..... its really cool to see lasers flying around everywhere! Yeah it's always fun to see laser battles, ran into a entire squad from betamax using lasers a couple of days ago, they were pretty lethal when they concentrated fire, of course they got torn apart later on in the match when we got up onto the same roof as them
Marston VC SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 103	Posted - 2013.03.11 20:45:00 - [44] - Quote Gusk Hevv wrote: Grabs Mass Driver You were saying... grabs 667 HP suit, what were you saying?
Marston VC SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 103	Posted - 2013.03.11 20:46:00 - [45] - Quote EnIgMa99 wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: I love when the enemy team is full of Laser guys. Shotguns work wonders against them. If you can successfully close the distance most anything works tsk tsk, people dont respect my OP SMG nearly as much as they should :/
Marston VC SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 103	Posted - 2013.03.11 20:47:00 - [46] - Quote iceyburnz wrote: Laser heavy is the best heavy. Laser heavy is only worth it if your fighting another laser guy, otherwise the cost in mobility isn't worth it IMO
Marston VC SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 103	Posted - 2013.03.11 20:48:00 - [47] - Quote Fornacis Fairchild wrote: Nothing like burning a sniper with a laser. That feeling when they're totally oblvious to you lining up a head shot on them, only for them to see how fast there health melts from it..... lol they think there getting sniped themselves!
Marston VC SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 103	Posted - 2013.03.11 20:51:00 - [48] - Quote IRuby Heart wrote: Gusk Hevv wrote: Grabs Mass Driver You were saying... lol a laser rifle will tear up an Mass Driver user with little to no effort. Just started specing into them, currently I see the ELM-7 as a super expensive base laser rifle. So i'm sticking with base LR until i reach the Viziam. TY! i swear, it costs three times as much money and 10 times as much SP only for you to have like 7 extra shots or something like that! (not to mention that its harder to fit). I just laugh whenever I see someone using an ELM, now i mean the Viziam is worth while, but the ELM just isn't worth it at all. There was a time when the ELM didn't overheat at all, and you know.... Ok its worth it then, but right now its totally pointless.
Marston VC SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 103	Posted - 2013.03.11 20:57:00 - [49] - Quote Knight SoIaire wrote: Yes, that damn Viziam takes me down in mere miliseconds! (Possibly an over exaggeration ) I really hope its Damage mods that are causing that, because I really dont think the LR needs another nerf. Just so you guys know (assuming what people say about the broken stacking penalty is true in all). I had a proto suit in the last build (before wipe) and what i like to do with the viziam was put four Complex damage mods on it. No stacking penalty means that is 40% extra damage plus 10% from weaponry skill. 1.5 x 20 = 30 damage..... So what we have here is an assault rifle that has maximum effectiveness at long range, has zero recoil, and three seconds into its charge does 90 Damage per shot...... The cost of that is a lack of health but considering anyone who looks at you dies..... it kind of balances out in your favor. Lol it was fun using that gun like a normal AR too, people just couldn't deal with it! it was kind of like a Mid range sniper rifle only better in every way.
Knarf Black Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 455	Posted - 2013.03.11 21:26:00 - [50] - Quote I have a 100 times more SP in SMG related skills than LR, but I always end up lazoring because the game drops me in Manus Peak over and over and over. (Not that most of the rest of the maps are much better.)

Mister Porter The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 7	Posted - 2013.03.11 23:32:00 - [51] - Quote Fornacis Fairchild wrote: Nothing like burning a sniper with a laser. My favorite part about being a laser bum is making snipers and Hmg bums disappear :) Viziam + sharpshooter 5 + sharpshooter spec = what snipers?
Spycrab Potato DIOS EX. 5	Posted - 2013.03.11 23:38:00 - [52] - Quote I played Ambush the other day and it was like a fricking light show. We had 4 Laser guys, and they had 6.


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