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DJINN Marauder
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.03.11 01:00:00 -
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My alt character "Maraud''er" is full on scout with an AR. I'm recking the pubs with it lol. So far its been really good. But I have yet to go up against a really good squad so until then... ill have to see. 
I have higher kd on it than my heavy lol |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1961
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Posted - 2013.03.11 01:00:00 -
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I would trade every single point I put in heavies and dropships in a heartbeat if I could dump it all into shotgun scout skills  |
Elijah Sol' Dzusaki
Onward Defrosted Tuna Team
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Posted - 2013.03.11 01:27:00 -
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AR+ anything will give good results. |
KING CHECKMATE
unlight9
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Posted - 2013.03.11 03:08:00 -
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Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote:AR+ anything will give good results.
Even Heavy Drop suits......? |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error.
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Posted - 2013.03.11 03:10:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote:AR+ anything will give good results. Even Heavy Drop suits......?
Even heavies |
WyrmHero1945
IMPSwarm
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.03.11 03:13:00 -
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I just tried scout shotgun and changed to assault type -2 and speed is not worth the -100 shields imo. Couldn't even fit uplinks without CPU.... |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1963
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Posted - 2013.03.11 03:21:00 -
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WyrmHero1945 wrote:I just tried scout shotgun and changed to assault type -2 and speed is not worth the -100 shields imo. Couldn't even fit uplinks without CPU....
Not sure why you would ever put uplinks on a combat fit lol.
The primary strength of scouts is your ability to quickly traverse terrain, having lower profile, and slightly smaller hitbox. |
2100 Angels
The Southern Legion
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Posted - 2013.03.11 03:30:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:WyrmHero1945 wrote:I just tried scout shotgun and changed to assault type -2 and speed is not worth the -100 shields imo. Couldn't even fit uplinks without CPU.... Not sure why you would ever put uplinks on a combat fit lol. The primary strength of scouts is your ability to quickly traverse terrain, having lower profile, and slightly smaller hitbox.
Translates to an excellent ability to sneak behind enemy lines and place a drop uplink to flank them  |
Geth Massredux
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
88
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Posted - 2013.03.11 03:33:00 -
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Scout + AR = deadly
Scout + Shotgun = sick
Heavy + shotgun= FML |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1935
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Posted - 2013.03.11 03:44:00 -
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Geth Massredux wrote:Scout + AR = deadly
Scout + Shotgun = sick
Heavy + shotgun= LOL
Heavy + Nova Knives = FML
You looked like you needed that. |
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1935
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Posted - 2013.03.11 03:46:00 -
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WyrmHero1945 wrote:I just tried scout shotgun and changed to assault type -2 and speed is not worth the -100 shields imo. Couldn't even fit uplinks without CPU....
That's because you're relying purely on the SPEED, and not the scanning, profile and stamina advantages that also come with the suit. If you think that all you're getting is more speed, you shouldn't be running a Scout suit. |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1963
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Posted - 2013.03.11 03:48:00 -
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2100 Angels wrote:[quote=DUST Fiend]Translates to an excellent ability to sneak behind enemy lines and place a drop uplink to flank them
Well yea, but you have a stealthy uplink fit for that, and an actual combat fit for once you've placed your uplinks. That's how I do it anyways, works way better for me. |
KING CHECKMATE
unlight9
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Posted - 2013.03.11 03:50:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:WyrmHero1945 wrote:I just tried scout shotgun and changed to assault type -2 and speed is not worth the -100 shields imo. Couldn't even fit uplinks without CPU.... That's because you're relying purely on the SPEED, and not the scanning, profile and stamina advantages that also come with the suit. If you think that all you're getting is more speed, you shouldn't be running a Scout suit.
What? I run Scouts because of the Shield regen time/shield regen RATE. XD
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iLLMaTiC619
KiLo.
36
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Posted - 2013.03.11 04:05:00 -
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I love killing scouts..keep wearing that armor |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1935
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Posted - 2013.03.11 04:15:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:WyrmHero1945 wrote:I just tried scout shotgun and changed to assault type -2 and speed is not worth the -100 shields imo. Couldn't even fit uplinks without CPU.... That's because you're relying purely on the SPEED, and not the scanning, profile and stamina advantages that also come with the suit. If you think that all you're getting is more speed, you shouldn't be running a Scout suit. What? I run Scouts because of the Shield regen time/shield regen RATE. XD
I knew I was missing something.
I should stop posting while half-asleep and heavily dosed with codeine.
...
I should, but I won't. |
WyrmHero1945
IMPSwarm
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.03.11 04:28:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:WyrmHero1945 wrote:I just tried scout shotgun and changed to assault type -2 and speed is not worth the -100 shields imo. Couldn't even fit uplinks without CPU.... That's because you're relying purely on the SPEED, and not the scanning, profile and stamina advantages that also come with the suit. If you think that all you're getting is more speed, you shouldn't be running a Scout suit. What? I run Scouts because of the Shield regen time/shield regen RATE. XD I knew I was missing something. I should stop posting while half-asleep and heavily dosed with codeine. ... I should, but I won't.
The scout won't let me equip profile dampener + armor repairer + uplink because of low CPU. The assault type 2 let me equip profile dampener for 42.5 profile vs 45 profile of the scout. Stamina is great but I manage stamina well and don't always jump to dodge bullets, I rather strafe and let my shields do their work.
Shield recharge delay is the same as assault and +15 shield recharge is not significant because scout have low shields anyway lol. So that's why I was looking at the speed aspect only...It's sad because I really want to use scouts but I guess I'll have to wait for buff or the Caldari version.
Edit: Shield recharge delay of assault is 4.8 vs scout 4.0. It was the only worthwhile thing I was trying to stack but assault wins. Lame. |
WyrmHero1945
IMPSwarm
Negative-Feedback
35
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Posted - 2013.03.11 04:44:00 -
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2100 Angels wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:WyrmHero1945 wrote:I just tried scout shotgun and changed to assault type -2 and speed is not worth the -100 shields imo. Couldn't even fit uplinks without CPU.... Not sure why you would ever put uplinks on a combat fit lol. The primary strength of scouts is your ability to quickly traverse terrain, having lower profile, and slightly smaller hitbox. Translates to an excellent ability to sneak behind enemy lines and place a drop uplink to flank them
This but he's also right I should make a dummy drop uplink build and so that the combat fit uses more useful things like explosives or nanohives...
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1935
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Posted - 2013.03.11 04:52:00 -
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WyrmHero1945 wrote:The scout won't let me equip profile dampener + armor repairer + uplink because of low CPU. The assault type 2 let me equip profile dampener for 42.5 profile vs 45 profile of the scout. Stamina is great but I manage stamina well and don't always jump to dodge bullets, I rather strafe and let my shields do their work.
Shield recharge delay is the same as assault and +15 shield recharge is not significant because scout have low shields anyway lol. So that's why I was looking at the speed aspect only...It's sad because I really want to use scouts but I guess I'll have to wait for buff or the Caldari version.
Edit: Shield recharge delay of assault is 4.8 vs scout 4.0. It was the only worthwhile thing I was trying to stack but assault wins. Lame.
Regen delay and speed advantages on the Scout are great if you can play to them effectively. And you're missing the OTHER advantages we mentioned.
Scan Precision and Scan Range are both better on the Scout, and by a larger margin than its advantage in Scan Profile. If you can play to THOSE advantages as well, then the Scout is worth having. If not, stick with the Assault. I'm looking forward to seeing what a Caldari small frame suit can do as well - I'm hoping it suits me even better, because I'm sick of having to run Gallente to get what I want. |
DJINN Marauder
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
294
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Posted - 2013.03.11 05:03:00 -
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My fit for the A series scout is
2x complex extender
Assault rifle
SMG
Nano hive
Basic armor plate
Militia armor rep
8 kd so far with about 300 kills. The best part is when I run right inside the blob of Reds in ambush and then run away with barely any health.  |
WyrmHero1945
IMPSwarm
Negative-Feedback
36
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Posted - 2013.03.11 05:03:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:WyrmHero1945 wrote:The scout won't let me equip profile dampener + armor repairer + uplink because of low CPU. The assault type 2 let me equip profile dampener for 42.5 profile vs 45 profile of the scout. Stamina is great but I manage stamina well and don't always jump to dodge bullets, I rather strafe and let my shields do their work.
Shield recharge delay is the same as assault and +15 shield recharge is not significant because scout have low shields anyway lol. So that's why I was looking at the speed aspect only...It's sad because I really want to use scouts but I guess I'll have to wait for buff or the Caldari version.
Edit: Shield recharge delay of assault is 4.8 vs scout 4.0. It was the only worthwhile thing I was trying to stack but assault wins. Lame. Regen delay and speed advantages on the Scout are great if you can play to them effectively. And you're missing the OTHER advantages we mentioned. Scan Precision and Scan Range are both better on the Scout, and by a larger margin than its advantage in Scan Profile. If you can play to THOSE advantages as well, then the Scout is worth having. If not, stick with the Assault. I'm looking forward to seeing what a Caldari small frame suit can do as well - I'm hoping it suits me even better, because I'm sick of having to run Gallente to get what I want.
I think scan range is bugged atm, I can see almost everyone at very far ranges. Unless it's about weapon range...scan precision is actually lower than assault at 45 dB vs assault 55 dB. That doesn't make any sense if scout is all about recon. Scan precision I understand is how often enemies appear on the radar minimap, so the higher the better... |
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WyrmHero1945
IMPSwarm
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Posted - 2013.03.11 05:08:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:My fit for the A series scout is 2x complex extender Assault rifle SMG Nano hive Basic armor plate Militia armor rep 8 kd so far with about 300 kills. The best part is when I run right inside the blob of Reds in ambush and then run away with barely any health.
But the armor plate slows you down! If you're shield tanking maybe you should get a profile dampener...idk.
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1935
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Posted - 2013.03.11 05:09:00 -
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WyrmHero1945 wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:WyrmHero1945 wrote:The scout won't let me equip profile dampener + armor repairer + uplink because of low CPU. The assault type 2 let me equip profile dampener for 42.5 profile vs 45 profile of the scout. Stamina is great but I manage stamina well and don't always jump to dodge bullets, I rather strafe and let my shields do their work.
Shield recharge delay is the same as assault and +15 shield recharge is not significant because scout have low shields anyway lol. So that's why I was looking at the speed aspect only...It's sad because I really want to use scouts but I guess I'll have to wait for buff or the Caldari version.
Edit: Shield recharge delay of assault is 4.8 vs scout 4.0. It was the only worthwhile thing I was trying to stack but assault wins. Lame. Regen delay and speed advantages on the Scout are great if you can play to them effectively. And you're missing the OTHER advantages we mentioned. Scan Precision and Scan Range are both better on the Scout, and by a larger margin than its advantage in Scan Profile. If you can play to THOSE advantages as well, then the Scout is worth having. If not, stick with the Assault. I'm looking forward to seeing what a Caldari small frame suit can do as well - I'm hoping it suits me even better, because I'm sick of having to run Gallente to get what I want. I think scan range is bugged atm, I can see almost everyone at very far ranges. Unless it's about weapon range...scan precision is actually lower than assault at 45 dB vs assault 55 dB. That doesn't make any sense if scout is all about recon. Scan precision I understand is how often enemies appear on the radar minimap, so the higher the better...
Lower Scan Precision = better. It basically tells you the level of Scan Profile you'll be able to pick up.
And Scan Range is for enemies you can't see directly (either behind obstacles or outside your field of view). |
DJINN Marauder
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
294
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Posted - 2013.03.11 05:13:00 -
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WyrmHero1945 wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:My fit for the A series scout is 2x complex extender Assault rifle SMG Nano hive Basic armor plate Militia armor rep 8 kd so far with about 300 kills. The best part is when I run right inside the blob of Reds in ambush and then run away with barely any health. But the armor plate slows you down! If you're shield tanking maybe you should get a profile dampener...idk.
Its only 3% though... Idk.. I've tried it with out the plate but i do better with it... |
WyrmHero1945
IMPSwarm
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.03.11 05:22:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:WyrmHero1945 wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:WyrmHero1945 wrote:The scout won't let me equip profile dampener + armor repairer + uplink because of low CPU. The assault type 2 let me equip profile dampener for 42.5 profile vs 45 profile of the scout. Stamina is great but I manage stamina well and don't always jump to dodge bullets, I rather strafe and let my shields do their work.
Shield recharge delay is the same as assault and +15 shield recharge is not significant because scout have low shields anyway lol. So that's why I was looking at the speed aspect only...It's sad because I really want to use scouts but I guess I'll have to wait for buff or the Caldari version.
Edit: Shield recharge delay of assault is 4.8 vs scout 4.0. It was the only worthwhile thing I was trying to stack but assault wins. Lame. Regen delay and speed advantages on the Scout are great if you can play to them effectively. And you're missing the OTHER advantages we mentioned. Scan Precision and Scan Range are both better on the Scout, and by a larger margin than its advantage in Scan Profile. If you can play to THOSE advantages as well, then the Scout is worth having. If not, stick with the Assault. I'm looking forward to seeing what a Caldari small frame suit can do as well - I'm hoping it suits me even better, because I'm sick of having to run Gallente to get what I want. I think scan range is bugged atm, I can see almost everyone at very far ranges. Unless it's about weapon range...scan precision is actually lower than assault at 45 dB vs assault 55 dB. That doesn't make any sense if scout is all about recon. Scan precision I understand is how often enemies appear on the radar minimap, so the higher the better... Lower Scan Precision = better. It basically tells you the level of Scan Profile you'll be able to pick up. And Scan Range is for enemies you can't see directly (either behind obstacles or outside your field of view).
Yeah got confused by the market's description as it says precision enhancers increase scan precision and profile dampeners decrease scan profile. It actually says -10% in the basic enhancer so you're right lol. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1935
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Posted - 2013.03.11 05:30:00 -
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WyrmHero1945 wrote:Yeah got confused by the market's description as it says precision enhancers increase scan precision and profile dampeners decrease scan profile. It actually says -10% in the basic enhancer so you're right lol.
The descriptions are a bit wonky. Technically, a lower number means higher precision because of what that number actually means. It's not very well explained by the game though. |
Doc Kok
Internal Error.
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Posted - 2013.03.11 05:32:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:My alt character "Maraud''er" is full on scout with an AR. I'm recking the pubs with it lol. So far its been really good. But I have yet to go up against a really good squad so until then... ill have to see. I have higher kd on it than my heavy lol
not as awesome as your mom.. |
DJINN Marauder
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
295
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Posted - 2013.03.11 05:43:00 -
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Doc Kok wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:My alt character "Maraud''er" is full on scout with an AR. I'm recking the pubs with it lol. So far its been really good. But I have yet to go up against a really good squad so until then... ill have to see. I have higher kd on it than my heavy lol not as awesome as your mom..
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Sleepy Zan
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Posted - 2013.03.11 05:44:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Doc Kok wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:My alt character "Maraud''er" is full on scout with an AR. I'm recking the pubs with it lol. So far its been really good. But I have yet to go up against a really good squad so until then... ill have to see. I have higher kd on it than my heavy lol not as awesome as your mom..
Your moms wasn't actually that awesome tbh  |
Doc Kok
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Posted - 2013.03.11 05:51:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Doc Kok wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:My alt character "Maraud''er" is full on scout with an AR. I'm recking the pubs with it lol. So far its been really good. But I have yet to go up against a really good squad so until then... ill have to see. I have higher kd on it than my heavy lol not as awesome as your mom..
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XeroTheBigBoss
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.03.11 09:22:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:My fit for the A series scout is 2x complex extender Assault rifle SMG Nano hive Basic armor plate Militia armor rep 8 kd so far with about 300 kills. The best part is when I run right inside the blob of Reds in ambush and then run away with barely any health.
You clearly are the luckiest Scout alive. You are talking about Scout like it's just OP as hell when it's the weakest suit in the game. The whole you running around and just slaying everybody...Cool story bro I never see Hellstorm let alone Djinn guys rush you guys normally hide on high ground or far in back so again cool story bro... |
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