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WyrmHero1945
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Posted - 2013.03.11 03:13:00 -
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I just tried scout shotgun and changed to assault type -2 and speed is not worth the -100 shields imo. Couldn't even fit uplinks without CPU.... |
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Posted - 2013.03.11 04:28:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:WyrmHero1945 wrote:I just tried scout shotgun and changed to assault type -2 and speed is not worth the -100 shields imo. Couldn't even fit uplinks without CPU.... That's because you're relying purely on the SPEED, and not the scanning, profile and stamina advantages that also come with the suit. If you think that all you're getting is more speed, you shouldn't be running a Scout suit. What? I run Scouts because of the Shield regen time/shield regen RATE. XD I knew I was missing something. I should stop posting while half-asleep and heavily dosed with codeine. ... I should, but I won't.
The scout won't let me equip profile dampener + armor repairer + uplink because of low CPU. The assault type 2 let me equip profile dampener for 42.5 profile vs 45 profile of the scout. Stamina is great but I manage stamina well and don't always jump to dodge bullets, I rather strafe and let my shields do their work.
Shield recharge delay is the same as assault and +15 shield recharge is not significant because scout have low shields anyway lol. So that's why I was looking at the speed aspect only...It's sad because I really want to use scouts but I guess I'll have to wait for buff or the Caldari version.
Edit: Shield recharge delay of assault is 4.8 vs scout 4.0. It was the only worthwhile thing I was trying to stack but assault wins. Lame. |
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Posted - 2013.03.11 04:44:00 -
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2100 Angels wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:WyrmHero1945 wrote:I just tried scout shotgun and changed to assault type -2 and speed is not worth the -100 shields imo. Couldn't even fit uplinks without CPU.... Not sure why you would ever put uplinks on a combat fit lol. The primary strength of scouts is your ability to quickly traverse terrain, having lower profile, and slightly smaller hitbox. Translates to an excellent ability to sneak behind enemy lines and place a drop uplink to flank them 
This but he's also right I should make a dummy drop uplink build and so that the combat fit uses more useful things like explosives or nanohives...
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Posted - 2013.03.11 05:03:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:WyrmHero1945 wrote:The scout won't let me equip profile dampener + armor repairer + uplink because of low CPU. The assault type 2 let me equip profile dampener for 42.5 profile vs 45 profile of the scout. Stamina is great but I manage stamina well and don't always jump to dodge bullets, I rather strafe and let my shields do their work.
Shield recharge delay is the same as assault and +15 shield recharge is not significant because scout have low shields anyway lol. So that's why I was looking at the speed aspect only...It's sad because I really want to use scouts but I guess I'll have to wait for buff or the Caldari version.
Edit: Shield recharge delay of assault is 4.8 vs scout 4.0. It was the only worthwhile thing I was trying to stack but assault wins. Lame. Regen delay and speed advantages on the Scout are great if you can play to them effectively. And you're missing the OTHER advantages we mentioned. Scan Precision and Scan Range are both better on the Scout, and by a larger margin than its advantage in Scan Profile. If you can play to THOSE advantages as well, then the Scout is worth having. If not, stick with the Assault. I'm looking forward to seeing what a Caldari small frame suit can do as well - I'm hoping it suits me even better, because I'm sick of having to run Gallente to get what I want.
I think scan range is bugged atm, I can see almost everyone at very far ranges. Unless it's about weapon range...scan precision is actually lower than assault at 45 dB vs assault 55 dB. That doesn't make any sense if scout is all about recon. Scan precision I understand is how often enemies appear on the radar minimap, so the higher the better... |
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Posted - 2013.03.11 05:08:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:My fit for the A series scout is 2x complex extender Assault rifle SMG Nano hive Basic armor plate Militia armor rep 8 kd so far with about 300 kills. The best part is when I run right inside the blob of Reds in ambush and then run away with barely any health. 
But the armor plate slows you down! If you're shield tanking maybe you should get a profile dampener...idk.
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Posted - 2013.03.11 05:22:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:WyrmHero1945 wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:WyrmHero1945 wrote:The scout won't let me equip profile dampener + armor repairer + uplink because of low CPU. The assault type 2 let me equip profile dampener for 42.5 profile vs 45 profile of the scout. Stamina is great but I manage stamina well and don't always jump to dodge bullets, I rather strafe and let my shields do their work.
Shield recharge delay is the same as assault and +15 shield recharge is not significant because scout have low shields anyway lol. So that's why I was looking at the speed aspect only...It's sad because I really want to use scouts but I guess I'll have to wait for buff or the Caldari version.
Edit: Shield recharge delay of assault is 4.8 vs scout 4.0. It was the only worthwhile thing I was trying to stack but assault wins. Lame. Regen delay and speed advantages on the Scout are great if you can play to them effectively. And you're missing the OTHER advantages we mentioned. Scan Precision and Scan Range are both better on the Scout, and by a larger margin than its advantage in Scan Profile. If you can play to THOSE advantages as well, then the Scout is worth having. If not, stick with the Assault. I'm looking forward to seeing what a Caldari small frame suit can do as well - I'm hoping it suits me even better, because I'm sick of having to run Gallente to get what I want. I think scan range is bugged atm, I can see almost everyone at very far ranges. Unless it's about weapon range...scan precision is actually lower than assault at 45 dB vs assault 55 dB. That doesn't make any sense if scout is all about recon. Scan precision I understand is how often enemies appear on the radar minimap, so the higher the better... Lower Scan Precision = better. It basically tells you the level of Scan Profile you'll be able to pick up. And Scan Range is for enemies you can't see directly (either behind obstacles or outside your field of view).
Yeah got confused by the market's description as it says precision enhancers increase scan precision and profile dampeners decrease scan profile. It actually says -10% in the basic enhancer so you're right lol. |
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Posted - 2013.03.11 18:44:00 -
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Monty Mole Clone wrote:someone post this awsome assault fit that can do everything better than a scout so i can see what ive been doing wrong
What I had atm for scout:
-Scout "Dragonfly"
-Shield Extender (militia)
-Shotgun (merc pack)
-Scrambler Pistol
-Locus Grenade
-Drop Uplink
-CPU Upgrade
-Armor Repairer
122 shield HP, 45 dB scan profile (the less the better), 5.6 walk speed, 4.0 shield regen delay (the less the better)
For assault:
-Assault Type-2
-Shotgun (merc pack)
-Toxin SMG
-Locus Grenade
-2 Shield Extenders (militia)
-Drop Uplink
-Armor Repairer
-Profile Dampener
269 shields HP, 42.5 dB scan profile, 5.1 walk speed, 4.8 shield regen delay
As you can see I need a CPU to use the scout (circuitry lvl 4 atm). Can't even fit a profile dampener and only 1 shield extender because of one high slot. This is assuming the Dragonfly suit is comparable to a type-2 assault, which I believe is does due to being a bit better than a type-1 scout. |
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