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Drake435
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
12
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Posted - 2013.03.06 22:46:00 -
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During those times you posted, most of us in the Americas (NOT just North America) are quite busy. If you extend the event by maybe 2 hours then maybe some of us can play a match or two and take part in the event.
It would be better if the event can run the whole day though. |
Canari Elphus
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
22
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Posted - 2013.03.06 22:47:00 -
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+1 |
Delanus Turgias
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
68
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Posted - 2013.03.06 22:47:00 -
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Drake435 wrote:During those times you posted, most of us in the Americas (NOT just North America) are quite busy. If you extend the event by maybe 2 hours then maybe some of us can play a match or two and take part in the event.
It would be better if the event can run the whole day though. I wholeheartedly agree. Being in the Midwest, I would completely miss the window, and it's bullshit to ignore your largest player base. Either extend the event, or get rid of it. |
Drake435
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
13
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Posted - 2013.03.06 22:49:00 -
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Delanus Turgias wrote:Drake435 wrote:During those times you posted, most of us in the Americas (NOT just North America) are quite busy. If you extend the event by maybe 2 hours then maybe some of us can play a match or two and take part in the event.
It would be better if the event can run the whole day though. I wholeheartedly agree. Being in the Midwest, I would completely miss the window, and it's bullshit to ignore your largest player base. Either extend the event, or get rid of it.
It's not too hard to ask for a 2-3 hour event extend is it? I hope a CCP member sees this thread. |
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GM Vegas
Game Masters C C P Alliance
333
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Posted - 2013.03.06 22:52:00 -
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I'll pass the info on but cannot guarantee anything. |
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Drake435
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
13
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Posted - 2013.03.06 22:53:00 -
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GM Vegas wrote:I'll pass the info on but cannot guarantee anything.
Thank you so much for your consideration |
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CCP Eterne
C C P C C P Alliance
919
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Posted - 2013.03.07 09:25:00 -
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I'm going to talk to the rest of the Live Events team today and see if one of us is capable of taking on the extra time it requires to extend the run time of the event by a couple of hours. However, because it will require someone staying in the office past 10 PM, I'm not guaranteeing anything. |
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CCP Eterne
C C P C C P Alliance
923
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Posted - 2013.03.07 09:59:00 -
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Good news. After talking it over, we've decided to extend the event by 2 hours. It will now run until midnight GMT. This is, unfortunately, as far as we can extend this event without making demands on our GM team that we are unwilling to make.
We'll look into solutions to extend event hours in the future, especially when we give stuff out. I know that the US West Coast gets screwed over by our operating times when it comes to events, but our options are sadly limited for the moment (but we're working on getting a fix for one of our biggest hurdles toward making them much longer events). |
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Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1209
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Posted - 2013.03.07 10:40:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:Good news. After talking it over, we've decided to extend the event by 2 hours. It will now run until midnight GMT. This is, unfortunately, as far as we can extend this event without making demands on our GM team that we are unwilling to make.
We'll look into solutions to extend event hours in the future, especially when we give stuff out. I know that the US West Coast gets screwed over by our operating times when it comes to events, but our options are sadly limited for the moment (but we're working on getting a fix for one of our biggest hurdles toward making them much longer events).
Why does anyone even have to be on to run these events? Surely there has been time invested in automated systems so these can be regular occurrences with minimal oversight? |
Chankk Saotome
CrimeWave Syndicate
195
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Posted - 2013.03.07 10:59:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:Good news. After talking it over, we've decided to extend the event by 2 hours. It will now run until midnight GMT. This is, unfortunately, as far as we can extend this event without making demands on our GM team that we are unwilling to make.
We'll look into solutions to extend event hours in the future, especially when we give stuff out. I know that the US West Coast gets screwed over by our operating times when it comes to events, but our options are sadly limited for the moment (but we're working on getting a fix for one of our biggest hurdles toward making them much longer events). Why does anyone even have to be on to run these events? Surely there has been time invested in automated systems so these can be regular occurrences with minimal oversight?
This is gonna be a **** move but it's been so long since I've seen it but...
SOONGäó |
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Sylvana Nightwind
Expert Intervention Caldari State
84
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Posted - 2013.03.07 11:01:00 -
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I guess they still have to have a guy making contracts :) I appreciate the effort even more now. Thanks for the 10 hour window! |
Bald Crusader Two
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2013.03.07 11:02:00 -
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Wow - tears from the Yanks who get the short end of the stick for the first time and cry.
Whenever anyone else complains about TZ inconvenience they just get a mocking from our US friends.
From the rest of the world let me be the first to say - HTFU. |
Dar Zenkoff
Wolfhounds Ru
1
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Posted - 2013.03.07 11:06:00 -
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I'm not from America, I'm from Sakhalin Island GMT+11 and event time not so good for me. |
Logi Blade
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
13
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Posted - 2013.03.07 11:08:00 -
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Agreed they act as if they should have priority all the time as if America is larger than the rest of the world...But it is unfair that any nation loses out. |
Stinker Butt
UnReaL.
108
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Posted - 2013.03.07 11:12:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:Good news. After talking it over, we've decided to extend the event by 2 hours. It will now run until midnight GMT. This is, unfortunately, as far as we can extend this event without making demands on our GM team that we are unwilling to make.
We'll look into solutions to extend event hours in the future, especially when we give stuff out. I know that the US West Coast gets screwed over by our operating times when it comes to events, but our options are sadly limited for the moment (but we're working on getting a fix for one of our biggest hurdles toward making them much longer events).
I have a seemingly random schedule, and this time was actually fine with me. Still, I'm impressed with this decision. If I could give you +10, I would. I may seem like one of the few that actually appreciates the customer service of ccp, but I can assure you there are plenty more in game. they are too quiet on the forums. This place gets overrun by the people that really shouldn't speak.
Bald Crusader Two wrote:Wow - tears from the Yanks who get the short end of the stick for the first time and cry.
Whenever anyone else complains about TZ inconvenience they just get a mocking from our US friends.
From the rest of the world let me be the first to say - HTFU.
Case in point. |
Tectonious Falcon
The Southern Legion
400
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Posted - 2013.03.07 11:13:00 -
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Australia and New Zealand are regularly screwed over. |
Olaf the Gutless
DUST University Ivy League
10
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Posted - 2013.03.07 11:21:00 -
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Forget timezones! What about a nanny for my kids. Game tag [NAN]. Sorted! |
Thumb Green
Starship Troppers
32
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Posted - 2013.03.07 11:22:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:However, because it will require someone staying in the office past 10 PM, I'm not guaranteeing anything.
What I want to know is, why? Why does it require someone to be there? With that being the case you must obviously have instant matches automated; so why can you not automate event matches? How hard is it to write a program to create a set number of matches with a match number check to keep it at that number for how many ever hours desired? I know CCP has the skills to do this otherwise DUST & EVE wouldn't exist in the first place. |
Bald Crusader Two
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2013.03.07 11:23:00 -
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Stinker Butt wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:Good news. After talking it over, we've decided to extend the event by 2 hours. It will now run until midnight GMT. This is, unfortunately, as far as we can extend this event without making demands on our GM team that we are unwilling to make.
We'll look into solutions to extend event hours in the future, especially when we give stuff out. I know that the US West Coast gets screwed over by our operating times when it comes to events, but our options are sadly limited for the moment (but we're working on getting a fix for one of our biggest hurdles toward making them much longer events). I have a seemingly random schedule, and this time was actually fine with me. Still, I'm impressed with this decision. If I could give you +10, I would. I may seem like one of the few that actually appreciates the customer service of ccp, but I can assure you there are plenty more in game. they are too quiet on the forums. This place gets overrun by the people that really shouldn't speak. Bald Crusader Two wrote:Wow - tears from the Yanks who get the short end of the stick for the first time and cry.
Whenever anyone else complains about TZ inconvenience they just get a mocking from our US friends.
From the rest of the world let me be the first to say - HTFU. Case in point. Listen cuntface, I'll say what I like. You don't get to tell people who can post and who can't.
If CCP are happy for US cry babies to hold their nose and force their head down on it to take it all gagging or no, it's no skin off my arse.
Just proves CCP just chase the money. Don't make US players any better, just more numerous.
Any yes, they are going the extra mile to prop up this miserable abortion of a game. |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1209
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Posted - 2013.03.07 11:31:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:However, because it will require someone staying in the office past 10 PM, I'm not guaranteeing anything. What I want to know is, why? Why does it require someone to be there? With that being the case you must obviously have instant matches automated; so why can you not automate event matches? How hard is it to write a program to create a set number of matches with a match number check to keep it at that number for how many ever hours desired? I know CCP has the skills to do this otherwise DUST & EVE wouldn't exist in the first place.
If I was being cynical, I would answer job security. |
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DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
323
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Posted - 2013.03.07 11:45:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:Good news. After talking it over, we've decided to extend the event by 2 hours. It will now run until midnight GMT. This is, unfortunately, as far as we can extend this event without making demands on our GM team that we are unwilling to make.
We'll look into solutions to extend event hours in the future, especially when we give stuff out. I know that the US West Coast gets screwed over by our operating times when it comes to events, but our options are sadly limited for the moment (but we're working on getting a fix for one of our biggest hurdles toward making them much longer events).
How about instead of you guys counting by hand each player that plays and manually entering it into a spreadsheet, maybe you could automate the system?
I'm amazed this game has gotten as far as it has with the apparent "prototype" technology you guys posses |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1876
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Posted - 2013.03.07 11:46:00 -
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Bald Crusader Two wrote:Wow - tears from the Yanks who get the short end of the stick for the first time and cry.
Whenever anyone else complains about TZ inconvenience they just get a mocking from our US friends.
From the rest of the world let me be the first to say - HTFU. You know, calling someone out on their hypocrisy doesn't look anywhere near as good when you're being just as bad. If you're going to call them out for crying when they tell you not to, that's fine. But as soon as you do the same to them, you negate your own right to cry when it happens to you again. Because as soon as you've shouted "HTFU" at someone getting the short end of the stick like this, you become the hypocrite.
I'm supporting this complaint - which affects EVERYONE in those timezones, Canada, Mexico, South America, not just USA, as well as causing similar problems for many people to whom this is late Friday "I'm out partying" night or early Saturday "I need a sleep-in to recover from a hard week's work" morning. I'm supporting it because the hours are strange for people where I live (it's fine for me, because I'm nocturnal), and I'm supporting it because I don't want to be that guy who's perfectly happy to complain about how my country gets treated like dirt, but isn't willing to back someone else up when they're getting slammed for living in the wrong place. |
Stinker Butt
UnReaL.
109
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Posted - 2013.03.07 11:59:00 -
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Bald Crusader Two wrote:Listen cuntface, I'll say what I like. You don't get to tell people who can post and who can't.
If CCP are happy for US cry babies to hold their nose and force their head down on it to take it all gagging or no, it's no skin off my arse.
Just proves CCP just chase the money. Don't make US players any better, just more numerous.
Any yes, they are going the extra mile to prop up this miserable abortion of a game.
I hope that some day when you grow up you will realize the error of your ways. And if you are already an adult, then you and your family have my sympathy.
I wish you good luck in life, and I will not post on this topic again. |
Leviticus Krauthammer
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
29
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Posted - 2013.03.07 12:46:00 -
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Bald Crusader Two wrote:Stinker Butt wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:Good news. After talking it over, we've decided to extend the event by 2 hours. It will now run until midnight GMT. This is, unfortunately, as far as we can extend this event without making demands on our GM team that we are unwilling to make.
We'll look into solutions to extend event hours in the future, especially when we give stuff out. I know that the US West Coast gets screwed over by our operating times when it comes to events, but our options are sadly limited for the moment (but we're working on getting a fix for one of our biggest hurdles toward making them much longer events). I have a seemingly random schedule, and this time was actually fine with me. Still, I'm impressed with this decision. If I could give you +10, I would. I may seem like one of the few that actually appreciates the customer service of ccp, but I can assure you there are plenty more in game. they are too quiet on the forums. This place gets overrun by the people that really shouldn't speak. Bald Crusader Two wrote:Wow - tears from the Yanks who get the short end of the stick for the first time and cry.
Whenever anyone else complains about TZ inconvenience they just get a mocking from our US friends.
From the rest of the world let me be the first to say - HTFU. Case in point. Listen cuntface, I'll say what I like. You don't get to tell people who can post and who can't. If CCP are happy for US cry babies to hold their nose and force their head down on it to take it all gagging or no, it's no skin off my arse. Just proves CCP just chase the money. Don't make US players any better, just more numerous. Any yes, they are going the extra mile to prop up this miserable abortion of a game.
Looks to me that you're crying more than the Yanks. Do you kiss your sister with that mouth? |
Beren Hurin
OMNI Endeavors
207
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Posted - 2013.03.07 12:51:00 -
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Don't forget folks, that you will eventually be able to trade these things on the market, so for all of you that have them and don't care, you can profit from the people who couldn't afford the chance to be there. I mean that is REALLY what America is about. |
H4lfdog
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
16
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Posted - 2013.03.07 13:03:00 -
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Some post make my day! |
Coleman Gray
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
75
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Posted - 2013.03.07 13:06:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:Good news. After talking it over, we've decided to extend the event by 2 hours. It will now run until midnight GMT. This is, unfortunately, as far as we can extend this event without making demands on our GM team that we are unwilling to make.
We'll look into solutions to extend event hours in the future, especially when we give stuff out. I know that the US West Coast gets screwed over by our operating times when it comes to events, but our options are sadly limited for the moment (but we're working on getting a fix for one of our biggest hurdles toward making them much longer events).
Speaking as a UK player, it's nice one or more of ya are staying to keep the US players happy, thank who is staying for us will ya please |
Naturi Riclenore
BetaMax.
124
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Posted - 2013.03.07 13:31:00 -
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Logi Blade wrote:Agreed they act as if they should have priority all the time as if America is larger than the rest of the world...But it is unfair that any nation loses out.
No, it's not that we think we should have priority. You all are not seeing the problem.. THIS ISN'T THE FIRST TIME THIS HAS HAPPENED
The Closed Beta Tournament was a best of 3 tourny. They at first scheduled it so that the America's Corps would have to forfeight 1 match because of work (was scheduled for Friday during work / school hours). We had to beg and plead for them to change the time so America Corps could have a fighting chance.
They ran events in closed beta. Had america scheduled at a decent time. it just so happened that when the event started, America kicked off 5 hours early. Only reason they knew was because I so happened to be logged in and several of us saw it, and someone from CCP just so happened to log into IRC and we mentioned it. Just so you know, it happened the entire event, and they did not reschedule the events.
Then we have these. Happening during the time America is at work / school AGAIN. This is the 3rd / 4th event now. I think we have reason to be a little angry. They keep screwing us over. And America is 2 / TWO / DOS CONTINENTS; NORTH AND SOUTH AMERICA. I saw this about any worldwide MMO.. just because you are in 1 location does not mean you should screw the rest of your population base.
We understand events will take place were it's just happens that way. But to continually screw 2 continents out of events is outrageous.
I will say though I am glad they at least extended the hours to give some America players a chance to participate, but there has to be a better way. I hear automation works well |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1876
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Posted - 2013.03.07 13:57:00 -
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Naturi Riclenore wrote:I will say though I am glad they at least extended the hours to give some America players a chance to participate, but there has to be a better way. I hear automation works well You should have been happy to have seen this part of CCP Eterne's post then:
CCP Eterne wrote:we're working on getting a fix for one of our biggest hurdles toward making them much longer events. This says that, in future (Hopefully more soon than SOONGäó) they'll be able to run events over longer periods of time than they're currently able to manage.
And I have to ask, even as you're complaining about this, you're sounding very reasonable and well-thought-out in your complaints. Have you backed people up who are getting shouted down by other Americans saying "deal with it" when another region is being screwed over? Because you sound like the kind of person who would actually be supportive of that kind of complaint even when it's not you making it.
And if you HAVE been one of the "deal with it" people in the past, has this situation made you feel guilty about that attitude? |
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GM Vegas
Game Masters C C P Alliance
359
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Posted - 2013.03.07 14:07:00 -
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Cleared the thread of silly comments. Please refrain from having a go at each other on the forum. Thanks.
Just to clarify some things here as well.
Deciding on extending the Event has nothing to do with picking any region as favorite or anything like that, it is simply to try to accommodate for the player base if we can (And in this case, as mentioned by CCP Eterne, we can!). You don't ask, you don't get. A bigger window will allow more players to participate. Why not just be happy about it?
And why do we need someone present at CCP during the Event? Well considering the 'Let's all go home and hope the event will run itself fine. If something goes wrong... well who cares?' approach isn't an option here. Making sure everything goes as planned and you guys enjoy it is!
I guess some people are just hard to please!
See you in battle! |
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